TL Mafia LIX - Page 14

On January 25 2013 02:03 Vivax wrote:
There are no town Rolecops, you can't be a DT yourself and you didn't mason anyone?

On January 25 2013 02:06 Vivax wrote:
That's why I thought that gonzaw was mason today, debears, cause I assumed that gonzaw used the vigi power before the check.

On January 25 2013 02:11 FiveTouch wrote:
Toad, I'd like you to mason with me tomorrow.

On January 25 2013 02:12 Vivax wrote:


This concerns all the people attacking me and having doubts on me knowing if gonzaw was mason.
FT and yamato.

They can only know and doubt about the accuracy of my assumptions if they know how and when gonzaw was able to use his roles.
It reveals their alignment cause it reveals their extra knowledge. The type of question reveals them as scum.

In the case they were town they would not have been able to get doubts about that.

On January 25 2013 02:15 Vivax wrote:
This doesn't stop now.

We should immediately discuss tomorrows' double lynches.

The people who have been masoned by gonzaw have to speak up as well.

I propose FT and yamato obviously.
Yamato is 100 % scum just cause of what I have already shown about him.

On January 25 2013 02:19 Vivax wrote:
This makes no fucking sense Toad.

You didn't ask "your" DT about his N1 check but doubted the syntax of my PM and what data I get back.

You dare to bombard me with suspicion but the guy you mason didn't tell you anything except his role and you immediately believed it without knowing what feedback he got?

Do you even realize how fucking ridiculous it is what you're claiming?

On January 25 2013 02:22 austinmcc wrote:

Toad, stop being Vivax.

(1) I am Toad, and I know of a DT who got a red check.
(2) I am Toad, and I know of someone who is a DT, and I do not know what their N1 check came out.

On January 25 2013 02:28 annul wrote:
toad says:

"I'd say we lynch the (possible) red check the other DT has once I mason him tomorrow."

we know he mason sandroba cycle 1. sandroba was miller. no info he could have received from sandroba is relevant to him knowing about another DT.

now, day 2, the only way toad can know of a DT is by masoning another mason (or a jack who used mason day 1). toad is not masoned with this DT today because as he says, "once i mason him tomorrow" means he cannot be with him today under the rules.

assume toad is masoning another mason today. the only way that he can know about this DT is if the person toad is talking to today masoned the DT on day 1, that DT claimed to the person toad is talking to today, and then the person toad is talking to today told toad about that DT's identity.

next, toad also says:

"see the thing is I know a bunch of powerroles, including a DT."

the only possible way for this to work is if by "a bunch" he actually means "one other" -- the second mason he is talking to today. he doesn't -- CAN'T -- know "a bunch" of power roles. there is no logical way for this to occur under the rules.

so we come down to a few choices:

A. toad is red.

B. whoever toad is talking to today is red and feeding toad lies.

C. whoever toad is talking to today is really, really bad at this game AND whoever talked on day 1 to the person toad is talking to today is also really, really bad at this game for claiming DT to a mason when mafia masons exist in the game.

D. whoever toad is talking to today is really, really bad at this game AND whoever talked on day 1 to the person toad is talking to today lied about being DT for some reason.


which is more likely?

On January 25 2013 02:29 austinmcc wrote:

No no, I'm not assuming you're masoned with a DT. Your comment can only be true if you're masoned with someone who themselves was in contact with a DT, otherwise you're lying about something. I just wanted to check on that.

"(possible) red check" was just a confusing statement. EVERY DT has a possible red check every night, so it's weird to phrase it like that, rather than just say "check" or whatever. Just pointing out that it might be red isn't actually any information and struck me as funny. Made it seem like you actually knew of someone who had CLAIMED a red check, but you didn't know whether you trusted that person yet, so the "possible" angle was whether they actually did or did not get a red check. If that were your meaning, you'd be lying.

On January 25 2013 02:36 annul wrote:
you keep saying "the people i know." why plural? the only hidden info you have (if you are town) is the one person you are talking with today, and any hearsay evidence he tells you.

On January 25 2013 02:46 annul wrote:
first, it is hearsay evidence. you have no proof. you have the word of someone you are talking with today, which could very well be tainted either by that person himself OR by bad information he got from a red somewhere down the communication chain.


second, i think i figured out what is going on. picture coming soon.

On January 25 2013 02:52 annul wrote:



THEN PROVIDE ME WITH A QUOTE OF THIS

On January 25 2013 03:12 debears wrote:


I'm very tired of playing with Vivax and the shit he's doing

On January 25 2013 03:25 gonzaw wrote:
If this was a "legit" frame/attempt to misslynch me it's weird as fuck because "jack mason" doesn't make any sense.

Vivax are you lying about this for a reason or somethign?

On January 25 2013 03:28 Vivax wrote:


It's also telling that yamato posts this after he just finished to post something against gonzaw when the lynch wasn't going anywhere before the claim.

"What are you saying Vivax, I am not setting myself up for a bus, I had gonzaw as target for a long time"

"What are you doing Vivax, town was heading to an Oats lynch and you get gonzaw lynched with a claim?"

Seriously, yamato is so bad as scum, I would lynch him with a spoon.

On January 25 2013 03:56 Vivax wrote:



How did you know this?

On January 25 2013 03:58 Vivax wrote:
Let me answer for you:

1. You know what powers gonzaw might have used.
2. You know gonzaw has two roles.

On January 25 2013 04:01 Vivax wrote:
Toad, why so disinterested in the game?

You are always here to ask questions but never to post something on your own.

You are still convinced yamato, FT and austin are town?