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On January 25 2013 02:03 Vivax wrote: There are no town Rolecops, you can't be a DT yourself and you didn't mason anyone? you're not the only one who openly claimed in the thread...
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On January 25 2013 02:06 Vivax wrote: That's why I thought that gonzaw was mason today, debears, cause I assumed that gonzaw used the vigi power before the check.
... You got back jack + mason... He's a Jack AND a mason. Mason is a day power. Jack is another role.
He could mason 2 people if on d1 if he wanted to if your claim is correct.
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we're lynching gonzaw right now. If you have a red check on him, I know another DT, I know more strong blue roles.
Mafia can't take that all out tonight and we have a 100% certain mafia either today (gonzaw) or tomorrow (you).
##vote Gonzaw
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On January 25 2013 02:11 FiveTouch wrote: Toad, I'd like you to mason with me tomorrow. I'd rather make it the cycle after that one... need to contact someone else first.
On January 25 2013 02:12 Vivax wrote:Show nested quote +On January 25 2013 01:49 Vivax wrote: Thanks for making it obvious by the way, either you have been masoned by gonzaw or you are in team with him knowing when he was mason.
You don't know what my PM looked like. This concerns all the people attacking me and having doubts on me knowing if gonzaw was mason. FT and yamato. They can only know and doubt about the accuracy of my assumptions if they know how and when gonzaw was able to use his roles. It reveals their alignment cause it reveals their extra knowledge. The type of question reveals them as scum. In the case they were town they would not have been able to get doubts about that. well you lied with your claim and they figured it out and so did everyone else because what you claimed made no sense. I guess you didn't understand it because you misunderstood your claim yourself because you still haven't understood what you claimed...
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On January 25 2013 02:15 Vivax wrote: This doesn't stop now.
We should immediately discuss tomorrows' double lynches.
The people who have been masoned by gonzaw have to speak up as well.
I propose FT and yamato obviously. Yamato is 100 % scum just cause of what I have already shown about him.
I'd say we lynch the (possible) red check the other DT has once I mason him tomorrow.
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On January 25 2013 02:19 Vivax wrote: This makes no fucking sense Toad.
You didn't ask "your" DT about his N1 check but doubted the syntax of my PM and what data I get back.
You dare to bombard me with suspicion but the guy you mason didn't tell you anything except his role and you immediately believed it without knowing what feedback he got?
Do you even realize how fucking ridiculous it is what you're claiming? you still haven't read what I said?
I never masoned a DT. I shot a PM @the hosts because the OP says rolecop, not role+alignment cop. I'm going to mason the DT next cycle.
Understood? Or do I have to say it a 4th time?
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On January 25 2013 02:22 austinmcc wrote:Show nested quote +On January 25 2013 02:16 Toadesstern wrote:On January 25 2013 02:15 Vivax wrote: This doesn't stop now.
We should immediately discuss tomorrows' double lynches.
The people who have been masoned by gonzaw have to speak up as well.
I propose FT and yamato obviously. Yamato is 100 % scum just cause of what I have already shown about him.
I'd say we lynch the (possible) red check the other DT has once I mason him tomorrow. Toad, stop being Vivax. (1) I am Toad, and I know of a DT who got a red check. (2) I am Toad, and I know of someone who is a DT, and I do not know what their N1 check came out. okay 5th time:
I know a DT. I do not know a DT with a red check and I never said that. I also never said I am masoned with a DT although people keep saying that for whatever reason, but said DT might have a red check tomorrow, that's why I'm going to mason him tomorrow.
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On January 25 2013 02:28 annul wrote: toad says:
"I'd say we lynch the (possible) red check the other DT has once I mason him tomorrow."
we know he mason sandroba cycle 1. sandroba was miller. no info he could have received from sandroba is relevant to him knowing about another DT.
now, day 2, the only way toad can know of a DT is by masoning another mason (or a jack who used mason day 1). toad is not masoned with this DT today because as he says, "once i mason him tomorrow" means he cannot be with him today under the rules.
assume toad is masoning another mason today. the only way that he can know about this DT is if the person toad is talking to today masoned the DT on day 1, that DT claimed to the person toad is talking to today, and then the person toad is talking to today told toad about that DT's identity.
next, toad also says:
"see the thing is I know a bunch of powerroles, including a DT."
the only possible way for this to work is if by "a bunch" he actually means "one other" -- the second mason he is talking to today. he doesn't -- CAN'T -- know "a bunch" of power roles. there is no logical way for this to occur under the rules.
so we come down to a few choices:
A. toad is red.
B. whoever toad is talking to today is red and feeding toad lies.
C. whoever toad is talking to today is really, really bad at this game AND whoever talked on day 1 to the person toad is talking to today is also really, really bad at this game for claiming DT to a mason when mafia masons exist in the game.
D. whoever toad is talking to today is really, really bad at this game AND whoever talked on day 1 to the person toad is talking to today lied about being DT for some reason.
which is more likely? how about you read the thread? The guy claimed in the thread like Vivax did.
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On January 25 2013 02:29 austinmcc wrote:Show nested quote +On January 25 2013 02:24 Toadesstern wrote:On January 25 2013 02:22 austinmcc wrote:On January 25 2013 02:16 Toadesstern wrote:On January 25 2013 02:15 Vivax wrote: This doesn't stop now.
We should immediately discuss tomorrows' double lynches.
The people who have been masoned by gonzaw have to speak up as well.
I propose FT and yamato obviously. Yamato is 100 % scum just cause of what I have already shown about him.
I'd say we lynch the (possible) red check the other DT has once I mason him tomorrow. Toad, stop being Vivax. (1) I am Toad, and I know of a DT who got a red check. (2) I am Toad, and I know of someone who is a DT, and I do not know what their N1 check came out. okay 5th time: I know a DT. I do not know a DT with a red check and I never said that. I also never said I am masoned with a DT although people keep saying that for whatever reason, but said DT might have a red check tomorrow, that's why I'm going to mason him tomorrow. No no, I'm not assuming you're masoned with a DT. Your comment can only be true if you're masoned with someone who themselves was in contact with a DT, otherwise you're lying about something. I just wanted to check on that. "(possible) red check" was just a confusing statement. EVERY DT has a possible red check every night, so it's weird to phrase it like that, rather than just say "check" or whatever. Just pointing out that it might be red isn't actually any information and struck me as funny. Made it seem like you actually knew of someone who had CLAIMED a red check, but you didn't know whether you trusted that person yet, so the "possible" angle was whether they actually did or did not get a red check. If that were your meaning, you'd be lying.
well you only lynch the guy if the check comes back red... don't you?
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well the people I know didn't claim on purpose and since you don't know them I consider it likely mafia don't know them. I can prove it any second and out blue roles but do you really want that to happen?
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On January 25 2013 02:36 annul wrote: you keep saying "the people i know." why plural? the only hidden info you have (if you are town) is the one person you are talking with today, and any hearsay evidence he tells you. because it's more than 1, and no it's not hearsay evidence...
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On January 25 2013 02:46 annul wrote: first, it is hearsay evidence. you have no proof. you have the word of someone you are talking with today, which could very well be tainted either by that person himself OR by bad information he got from a red somewhere down the communication chain.
second, i think i figured out what is going on. picture coming soon.
first is wrong.
Here's the explanation for the 6th time: He claimed in the fucking thread.
What don't you understand about it? I'm not getting any information from anyone because the guy CLAIMED IN THE THREAD.
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On January 25 2013 02:52 annul wrote:Show nested quote +On January 25 2013 02:50 Toadesstern wrote:On January 25 2013 02:46 annul wrote: first, it is hearsay evidence. you have no proof. you have the word of someone you are talking with today, which could very well be tainted either by that person himself OR by bad information he got from a red somewhere down the communication chain.
second, i think i figured out what is going on. picture coming soon. first is wrong. Here's the explanation for the 6th time: He claimed in the fucking thread. What don't you understand about it? I'm not getting any information from anyone because the guy CLAIMED IN THE THREAD. THEN PROVIDE ME WITH A QUOTE OF THIS do you even realise what you're asking about?
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not going to claim who it is. I'm going to ignore it. Make of it whatever you think. You claimed a lie because you claimed what you "assumed" your check meant instead of just claiming your check although we kept on asking to just spit it out.
So it's very much reasonable noone believe you in the first place. I'm not going to reveal the blueroles and you're either both mafia or playing against your wincon. Pick it. I'm going to quote this post postgame and it will be 100% and laughing at you for either being the worst townies I've ever seen in a game of mafia or for being mafia.
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On January 25 2013 03:12 debears wrote:Show nested quote +On January 25 2013 03:10 DearestSnot wrote:On January 25 2013 03:07 debears wrote:On January 25 2013 03:02 DearestSnot wrote:On January 25 2013 03:01 debears wrote: Can we lynch Vivax?
Pretty please?
To send a message this is not how you play mafia? I love the way you think, but if we want to win the game I think it's better if we lynch gonzaw first :p Double lynch gonz and vivax Who knows? Maybe vivax is scum why would you double lynch two people who you almost 100% know are going to flip opposite alignments? There's a miniscule chance they are the same alignment, double lynching them doesn't make sense. I'm very tired of playing with Vivax and the shit he's doing same here... let's find myself a townvig
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On January 25 2013 03:25 gonzaw wrote: If this was a "legit" frame/attempt to misslynch me it's weird as fuck because "jack mason" doesn't make any sense.
Vivax are you lying about this for a reason or somethign? jack mason makes perfect sense. Mafias can have multiple roles.
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On January 25 2013 03:28 Vivax wrote:Show nested quote +On January 25 2013 01:39 yamato77 wrote: Vivax if you're town you're a moron for what you're doing with this red check.
But, no matter your alignment, town's best play is to lynch Gonzaw here, so let's see some votes. It's also telling that yamato posts this after he just finished to post something against gonzaw when the lynch wasn't going anywhere before the claim. "What are you saying Vivax, I am not setting myself up for a bus, I had gonzaw as target for a long time" "What are you doing Vivax, town was heading to an Oats lynch and you get gonzaw lynched with a claim?" Seriously, yamato is so bad as scum, I would lynch him with a spoon.
we already know that you'd be willing to lynch everyone disagreeing with you and you said that about at least 8 people this cycle... so get off your high horse and stop being an ass.
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On January 25 2013 03:56 Vivax wrote:Show nested quote +On January 25 2013 01:52 Toadesstern wrote: no, jacks don't show up as what kind of power they used. They show up as "jack", not as "jack vig" or "jack mason". If he got a "jack mason" he found someone with 2 roles. How did you know this? because that's how it is in every single game...
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On January 25 2013 03:58 Vivax wrote: Let me answer for you:
1. You know what powers gonzaw might have used. 2. You know gonzaw has two roles.
I have played with jacks before and they just return "joat" or "jack" they don't return with what they used... And I've played in games like this were mafia can have multiple roles and it's exactly like what you claimed.
That's why I called you a liar.
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On January 25 2013 04:01 Vivax wrote: Toad, why so disinterested in the game?
You are always here to ask questions but never to post something on your own.
You are still convinced yamato, FT and austin are town?
yeah pretty much. Austin would be the one who's the least likely town but still leaning town. There's no reason to think anyone out of those is mafia.
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