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I don't think I took it out of context. Hell why are you hard-defending someone barely 3 hours into the game? Sure you have a town read on him, but how can you be this sure so quickly? Do you really think Jay is completely incapable of doing what he just has done as mafia?
Secondly, I'm never going to really get a grip on Jay's alignment until I have a discussion with him. It's possible that you're right about all of this, but I want to hear from Jay and make a decision from that.
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Saying that Jay was pushing Kush is definitely taking his quote out of context, whether you realize this or not.
I'm am almost certain he's town. Yes, it is possible for him to do this as scum, but it's extremely unlikely he'd be able to.
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On January 13 2013 10:42 Hapahauli wrote:Show nested quote +On January 13 2013 10:39 MrZentor wrote:I don't think I took it out of context. Hell why are you hard-defending someone barely 3 hours into the game? Sure you have a town read on him, but how can you be this sure so quickly? Do you really think Jay is completely incapable of doing what he just has done as mafia?
Secondly, I'm never going to really get a grip on Jay's alignment until I have a discussion with him. It's possible that you're right about all of this, but I want to hear from Jay and make a decision from that. Saying that Jay was pushing Kush is definitely taking his quote out of context, whether you realize this or not. I'm am almost certain he's town. Yes, it is possible for him to do this as scum, but it's extremely unlikely he'd be able to. I get that you think Jay is town based on his spaminess, but 3 hours is far too small of a sample size to make a meta judgement. If he keeps this up, I'll be inclined to agree with you. For now, I want to hear his answers, because I'm pretty sure I"m not taking him out of context.
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And now you're misrepresenting me. Believe it or not, I don't judge if somebody is town by how much they post; I am also not reading Jay based on meta. I'm reading him from his actions and their motives. Also, I don't see how how you think you're not taking him out of context. -.-
Also, please don't edit what I say before quoting me. 
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On January 13 2013 11:00 Hapahauli wrote:
WELP. On his behavior so far, Jay does seem rather townie.
Anyway MrZ, talk to me about Ruuch a bit. You have your vote on him, and he did respond to it some. Do you make anything one way or the other of his recent posting?
I'm leaning townie on him, but it's a pretty weak read.
And I suppose my vote served its purpose.
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Do you think he's playing similarly to British Mafia? I think there are some things in his filter that game (aggression, spamminess) that are similar, but it's far too early to say that. It's just a couple of pages so far. Also, it's not hard to spam a bit with useless posts like random voting (...) to emulate your town game. If you wanted to define fluff, that would be it.
No, he's definitely not playing like he was in British Mafia.
My posts have a lot more content than yours, and that vote wasn't random. Are you familiar with the idea of putting pressure on somebody to gauge their response and get a better read on them?
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On January 13 2013 11:13 Xatalos wrote:Show nested quote +On January 13 2013 11:09 MrZentor wrote:On January 13 2013 11:00 Hapahauli wrote:
WELP. On his behavior so far, Jay does seem rather townie.
Anyway MrZ, talk to me about Ruuch a bit. You have your vote on him, and he did respond to it some. Do you make anything one way or the other of his recent posting? I'm leaning townie on him, but it's a pretty weak read. And I suppose my vote served its purpose. ##UnvoteDo you think he 's playing similarly to British Mafia? I think there are some things in his filter that game (aggression, spamminess) that are similar, but it's far too early to say that. It's just a couple of pages so far. Also, it's not hard to spam a bit with useless posts like random voting (...) to emulate your town game. If you wanted to define fluff, that would be it. No, he's definitely not playing like he was in British Mafia. My posts have a lot more content than yours, and that vote wasn't random. Are you familiar with the idea of putting pressure on somebody to gauge their response and get a better read on them? I was talking about Jay in the last sentence. What's the biggest difference between his game now and then?
What? You switched from referring to Jay as "he" to "you"?
He seems a bit more confident this game than last.
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On January 13 2013 11:21 Xatalos wrote:Show nested quote +On January 13 2013 11:15 MrZentor wrote:On January 13 2013 11:13 Xatalos wrote:On January 13 2013 11:09 MrZentor wrote:On January 13 2013 11:00 Hapahauli wrote:
WELP. On his behavior so far, Jay does seem rather townie.
Anyway MrZ, talk to me about Ruuch a bit. You have your vote on him, and he did respond to it some. Do you make anything one way or the other of his recent posting? I'm leaning townie on him, but it's a pretty weak read. And I suppose my vote served its purpose. ##UnvoteDo you think he 's playing similarly to British Mafia? I think there are some things in his filter that game (aggression, spamminess) that are similar, but it's far too early to say that. It's just a couple of pages so far. Also, it's not hard to spam a bit with useless posts like random voting (...) to emulate your town game. If you wanted to define fluff, that would be it. No, he's definitely not playing like he was in British Mafia. My posts have a lot more content than yours, and that vote wasn't random. Are you familiar with the idea of putting pressure on somebody to gauge their response and get a better read on them? I was talking about Jay in the last sentence. What's the biggest difference between his game now and then? What? You switched from referring to Jay as "he" to "you"? He seems a bit more confident this game than last. "You" as in you = one (you can see a great view from here / one can see a great view from here). Hmmm. So he's less careful than in his previous game (as town) and that's the basis of your confident town read?
You didn't ask me what the basis of my town read is.
You asked the difference between Jay's play this game and last.
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On January 13 2013 11:32 Xatalos wrote:Show nested quote +On January 13 2013 11:25 MrZentor wrote:On January 13 2013 11:21 Xatalos wrote:On January 13 2013 11:15 MrZentor wrote:On January 13 2013 11:13 Xatalos wrote:On January 13 2013 11:09 MrZentor wrote:On January 13 2013 11:00 Hapahauli wrote:
WELP. On his behavior so far, Jay does seem rather townie.
Anyway MrZ, talk to me about Ruuch a bit. You have your vote on him, and he did respond to it some. Do you make anything one way or the other of his recent posting? I'm leaning townie on him, but it's a pretty weak read. And I suppose my vote served its purpose. ##UnvoteDo you think he 's playing similarly to British Mafia? I think there are some things in his filter that game (aggression, spamminess) that are similar, but it's far too early to say that. It's just a couple of pages so far. Also, it's not hard to spam a bit with useless posts like random voting (...) to emulate your town game. If you wanted to define fluff, that would be it. No, he's definitely not playing like he was in British Mafia. My posts have a lot more content than yours, and that vote wasn't random. Are you familiar with the idea of putting pressure on somebody to gauge their response and get a better read on them? I was talking about Jay in the last sentence. What's the biggest difference between his game now and then? What? You switched from referring to Jay as "he" to "you"? He seems a bit more confident this game than last. "You" as in you = one (you can see a great view from here / one can see a great view from here). Hmmm. So he's less careful than in his previous game (as town) and that's the basis of your confident town read? You didn't ask me what the basis of my town read is. You asked the difference between Jay's play this game and last. Yeah, but it's related. You saw Jay as townie last game and now you're at least equally convinced. I'm guessing more confident = more townish = very townish in your mind?
No, his change in play hasn't really affected my read on him.
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Hiya supersoft, how can I prove Jay and I are cousins?
And why am I scum?
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This should be interesting...
For those of us not nearly as clever as you, can you quote where and how I scumslipped, Supersoft?
Even though usually scum don't "scumslip".
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Come on supersoft, what's my super obvious scum slip?
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Just to be clear, Kush, he never actually made that conclusion.
But I agree that Hapa's play this game is...off.
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Supersoft, why won't you share my scumslip?
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If I find my scumslip, do I get confirmed townie status or something?
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On January 13 2013 12:42 supersoft wrote:yo kushmasta, Show nested quote +On January 13 2013 12:36 MrZentor wrote:
Just to be clear, Kush, he never actually made that conclusion.
But I agree that Hapa's play this game is...off. do you like how he agrees on everything? can you find his scumslip? I might accept you as a player if you answer correctly.
Also, I've already, although indirectly, pointed out that Hapa's play this game is different than usual, waaay before Kush said it.
From me to Hapa
I don't know; it looks as if you purposely took it out of context, just to make Jay look scummy. :/
So in a way, Kush is agreeing with me.
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I don't really remember when I said that, but I've played a lot of mafia with him irl, and usually he is much more passive when he's scum, and he's relatively new to forum mafia, so I thought it would be difficult for him to change his playstyle, so it seemed unlikely that Jay was scum.
Why?
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On January 13 2013 12:54 kushm4sta wrote:
dont see the scumslip at all read his filter twice lol.
One day I will win your approval somehow though because I think your name is so awesome.
He does look hella scum tho. Defending EVERYONE for no reason.
##vote mrzentor
I've defended one person, Jay.
You must have a terrible reading comprehension. lol
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It was obviously mostly the first post.
He had an aggressive, no-nonsense attitude, which was completely different than how he usually plays scum.
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Xatalos obviously missed my last town game.
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Well, he was in it, I suppose, but he didn't read the last half.
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