EPTWhy dont u start to earn some town cred before questioning myself and zebezt.
U can start by addressing the questions i and others put forward to you in your prolonged absence.
U will then be in a position where i can respond to your qustions.
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Mocsta
Australia9389 Posts
Why dont u start to earn some town cred before questioning myself and zebezt. U can start by addressing the questions i and others put forward to you in your prolonged absence. U will then be in a position where i can respond to your qustions. | ||
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Acid~
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Stutters695
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Vote Count If your vote is not properly formatted it will not be counted. Everyone is required to vote. bringaniga (1) - shz, Acid~ (1) - Mocsta (0) - Oatsmaster (0) - Sn0 Man (2) - shz (1) - OmniEulogy Laguerta (1) - Mandalor Mandalor (2) - Mocsta, Oatsmaster zebezt (1) - Acid~ No-Lynch (1) - Laguerta Not Voting - everyone else Currently Sn0_man is set to be lynched! If you see that your vote is incorrect then pm me. You have about 4.5 hours left to vote! Deadline is at 04:00 GMT (+00:00). Another phone vote count so if I missed anything either PM me or post in bold green about it. | ||
shz
Germany2687 Posts
On January 13 2013 21:34 OmniEulogy wrote: @Shz last thing before I take off till this afternoon, I'll be back with 4-5 hours remaining before the lynch. I believe I'll have a better/worse opinion of Bringaniga as we get closer to the deadline. So far he's shown that he has been reading everything and has been active. If he can start contributing along with that I'll have no problem with him. As far as I know he's just been waiting for more information on people. He has a bit more now so he should be able to piece something together, I'm not overwhelmingly happy with how things have gone so far but I'm hoping the guys in EU pick it up today. If not I'm actually entertaining the idea of playing russian roulette with them and the scummiest lurker gets the bullet. On January 14 2013 06:29 OmniEulogy wrote: Shz has voted for Bringaniga because he was annoying, not because he was scum. In my mind this is not a town motivated vote. It is a vote on somebody easy to target by scum. He hasn't contributed to very much at all, and instead has either asked very simplistic questions, answered the first few questions but mostly attacked players on their stances early on and hasn't done anything since then. It is a large change from my game with him in XXXIII and the fact that he has not contributed since then also makes me worried. I believe you are taking the easy way out by voting for Bringaniga, voting for one of the "easy" lynch candidates. Town should be scum hunting and trying to discuss leads with each other. Not voting because somebody is annoying who you yourself even said it is unlikely for him to be scum. ##Vote: Shz At that moment all he did was troll the shit out of everyone. While this can be town motivated and would be extremly guttsy to do as scum, this is fucked up to do, especially in a newbie game. This isn't okay and should be punished. At that moment I didn't have any good scum reads, so of course I'm gonna start by voting a player which trolls and sabotages town. I don't think meta'ing too hard is gonna help much, this is my second game. But I did that to a extend too with Mocsta. Still I think this is not a very good move to make, but this is day 1, all we have is meta for a big part. New development happend and I'll comment on this in a moment. On January 13 2013 23:58 Mocsta wrote: shz (1) Are you advocating this lynch because you find him annoying as town, or because you have a genuine scum read on him? If you think his motivations are town, is this not lazy voting? If you think he is scum, can you please share your reasoning. (2) What do you make of the play from Glurio. I ask because you are both from Germany, I assume you will have the best chance to communicate with him. I think we need more from him, I ask that you please lead the discussion. On 1, pretty much what I just said. On 2: How can I say anything about that guy? He contributed excactly: nothing. One post to say he's been busy (which is perfectly fine) and then lurk back in the shadows for the rest of the day and still continues to do. On bringaniga: My intent was that he starts to contribute already and quit the trolling. Maybe the way he played/plays is alright in general, but this confused me and I wanted him to quit. And I still don't see a big problem with that. Even if he is town, this does not help us at all, and the sooner we get rid off people like that, the sooner we can have a good environment which allows to focus on scummier players. He kinda did stop his act and trolling, as he seems to be a smurf of a more experienced player. Of course we'll have to see what his replacement will do. So until then: ##Unvote | ||
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Oatsmaster
United States16628 Posts
You did seem to be stuck on Oats a little too long. You gave that up though which I think is a good sign. Going to be voting either sn0 or oats I think. Why when Mocsta stopped pressuring me you said its good, but still want to vote me without even directly interacting with me? Dont you want to pressure your scum reads until you are confident? It doesnt look like you are very confident to me. 1: Sn0_man was the first one to attack mocsta in a way that would lead to a bad town atmosphere. Nice sheeping mocsta. So it seems bringaniga is in fact kushm4sta, someone that has played MANY mafia games and therefore not really a newbie anymore. modkill? This says to me that you are actually either relatively experienced or the scum qt is talking about it. I was totally confused before thrawn posted the host message. | ||
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Oatsmaster
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Acid~
Thailand442 Posts
On January 14 2013 08:24 Mocsta wrote: Lol so u come in the thread after 40hrs of no post and start slinging shit. Why dont u start to earn some town cred before questioning myself and zebezt. U can start by addressing the questions i and others put forward to you in your prolonged absence. U will then be in a position where i can respond to your qustions. There were no questions that were "put to me", you just asked me to post and I did. So, now I have to "earn" town cred before I'm allowed to play? Oh please, pretty please, can I play with you Mr mayor? I find this attitude pretty fucking hypocritical coming from a guy who attacked someone else earlier supposedly because they were intimidating others into not participating. This shit you're trying to pull right there, not only is it exactly the kind of behavior you attacked in others, it's also textbook ad-hominem. So, please, with sugar on top, answer the fucking question. Maybe you'll manage to post your first line of useful content. | ||
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Mandalor
Germany2362 Posts
On January 14 2013 08:21 Oatsmaster wrote: [/spoiler]Mandalor, what changed from earlier? You were not even close to active this time of the day yesterday. So, basically apart from trolling, you want to lynch a lurker which gives us 0 information. Umm you want to lynch a lurker too, laguerta.. ##Unvote ##Vote: Mandalor You too [spolier] ##Unvote ##Vote: laguerta Explain your vote. Now. I slept through the day yesterday. I said that earlier. I was at a friend's birthday party and had way too much alcohol. I'm old and it takes me 3 days to get in good shape again nowadays. Laguerta is not an extreme lurker. He has a couple of posts, all of them with shitty content. I don't understand what else you want me to say? I had an eye on laguerta earlier and now he appears out of nowhere and places a bandwagon vote without any explanation whatsoever. He then excuses himself saying that he's lazy. And I am the one you want to lynch? Seriously? -------- On January 14 2013 08:13 Mocsta wrote: Thanks forthe feedback mandalor. Remember a townie knows he is innocent. Why do u think i can post on the fly. Because im confident i am town and that my actions will speaker louder than my words. Your overly defensive and emotional case defense sits uncomfortably with me. i dont associate your reactions as a townie defense..it reads to me as a last resort post does anyone else feel this way? I.e. Too defensive and emotional to be confident in his alignment? Of course it's a last resort post. It's late, I'm tired. I really reaaaaally need to go to bed and this is all I can say before I might die. And yes, I get veeery emotional when people vote me when I'm town. I'd love if that was not the case, but it is. I don't expect you to read up on my old games, but I was in a similar situation in Mafia LVI when Mattchew accused me and I countered with a really angry post and an OMGUS. So maybe I'm different? But I would expect any townie to get at least a little mad when he's falsely accused. As you know this is not the first game I played. And funny enough I have been suspected early in every game I played so far, no matter my alignment. I joined this newbie game to maybe work with coaches on that. I didn't pm my coach early enough I guess. Okay, that's it. No more F5. It's shutdown time. | ||
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OmniEulogy
Canada6600 Posts
On January 14 2013 00:41 Mandalor wrote: Oh, forgot about bringaniga. His play is annoying the crap out of me. If he's town, he's helping scum a lot. I hope he knows that. However, I still favor going for the more easy targets. Scum would think of Bringaniga as an "easy target". I'm going to say that thinking of this post from a town vs scum point of view it seems more town even though he's talking about lynching easy targets. I believe lynching Mandalor would be a mistake D1. Sn0 is a possible target I'd consider lynching. I think people are dead on with their idea's of him. He hasn't come back at all and stirred things up to create an atmosphere that isn't really town friendly. I wasn't aiming for a love-fest with my post about taking each others cases apart either, but I gave reasons for why it would be beneficial towards town and how it would help us scum hunt. He has done nothing that would promote a town agenda. He seemed quick to jump on Mocsta, which is understandable but he has contributed nothing after stopping the discussion and what posts he has made aren't very good. He is another lurker and it is very hard to get a good read on him. Glurio - has posted nothing. Acid~ - has posted nothing. Shz - very little posted, jumped on Bringaniga out of frustration, left for the rest of the day. Possible scum move to get his vote out there early on a target nobody would complain about and then went MIA so he could not explain himself. Mandalor - Jumped between targets, has stayed with his scum read though. Has defended himself actively. A little bit defensive, but when being accused of something most people are. Trotske - Seems to be aiming for a lurker lynch D1. At this point I'm not entirely against it but he has shown little care for anything else that has happened. Weak case at best due to such little information from Sn0 available. Laguerta - started off with this "1) If I dont have a strong mafia read on someone by the end of the day, I will feel compelled to policy lynch and not waste a day with a NL." He just voted for a no-lynch. Already makes him a liar. He voted for Bringaniga as an OMGUS. Anybody have anything to add? I think one of these guys should be our lynch candidates for today. Zarepath barely makes it off the list. I find his activity is also very spotty and outside of policy he hasn't offered much. He also voted for Acid, which to me seems like a scum move. Trying to explain why he would vote for Acid over another lurker, I can understand it because of TeMiL in our last game who literally only posted once to vote and that was pretty much it... but still, it's not a very compelling vote for somebody who has had time to come to a conclusion. | ||
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Mocsta
Australia9389 Posts
Eitherway its a rule nit to talk about modkills i suggest we stop. Just give the replacement a chance. If he is town we have another vote to consolidate with | ||
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OmniEulogy
Canada6600 Posts
 Shz I'd still like your thoughts on how everything has been playing out and who you believe the top 2 players (or more if you'd like) for this lynch should be. | ||
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Mocsta
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Oatsmaster
United States16628 Posts
+ Show Spoiler + ##unvote ##vote no one Mocsta, again, ignore the name above the post and answer the questions. | ||
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OmniEulogy
Canada6600 Posts
 Although it is not much it's still a nice step in the right direction. I didn't take a close look at Zebezt but he has said some pretty odd things. | ||
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Mocsta
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OmniEulogy
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Trotske
410 Posts
Also your post + Show Spoiler + On January 14 2013 08:34 Acid~ wrote: There were no questions that were "put to me", you just asked me to post and I did. So, now I have to "earn" town cred before I'm allowed to play? Oh please, pretty please, can I play with you Mr mayor? I find this attitude pretty fucking hypocritical coming from a guy who attacked someone else earlier supposedly because they were intimidating others into not participating. This shit you're trying to pull right there, not only is it exactly the kind of behavior you attacked in others, it's also textbook ad-hominem. So, please, with sugar on top, answer the fucking question. Maybe you'll manage to post your first line of useful content. seemed to be aimed at getting people emotional near the lynch deadline and you need to stop it now because that won't help people make informed lynch decisions. that post was 100% pointless unless you want to get people emotional. | ||
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Trotske
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OmniEulogy
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Mocsta
Australia9389 Posts
im not sure how much hand over meeting there will be,so cant guarantee I will be here over the next 4-8 hrs. As it stands; Im still not convinced by Mantador so will leave my vote parked there. | ||
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