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Mandalor
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I like your last post, Trotske, but I'd still like to hear your opinion on the other players. Concerning my vote (and I'm sorry I'm using two posts for this): We absolutely need to pressure trolls. This is unacceptable behavior if he's town and he's not going to help us at all if he continues to play like this. I would LOVE if he starts contributing and I'd switch in an instant. Considering there's not much support for my semi-case against laguerta, bringaniga is my best candidate for now. | ||
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Mandalor
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On January 14 2013 05:24 Trotske wrote: How do you feel about sn0_man and my case for him. I'm kind of indifferent about him. tbh when I read the last mafia games, I also felt weird about Mocsta's play. He likes to ask lots of questions, which is good (don't get me wrong), but that's pretty much all he did in XXXIII for quite a while and I feel like that's a decent way to get to a lot of posts without giving any reads. Still, it's stupid to attack Mocsta like that this early in the game, but I feel like that would be a really ballsy thing to do as scum that early. It might be a good move tho to try to discredit one of the leading figures of the last games early on. So yeah idk. I need more posts of him and I want him to write down his reads so far. | ||
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##Vote: laguerta Explain your vote. Now. | ||
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On January 14 2013 07:03 Mocsta wrote: Guys im back.. Happy to see at least 2 pages of filter.. but overall.. conversation was down to what it should have been! Guys we need to step up.. im talking to you lurkers!! I have had a change in heart. ##UNVOTE:Sn0_Man ##Vote: Mandalor This guy is spouting so much crap its not funny. + Show Spoiler + On January 14 2013 05:33 Mandalor wrote: I also felt weird about Mocsta's play. He likes to ask lots of questions, which is good (don't get me wrong), but that's pretty much all he did in XXXIII for quite a while I need more posts of him and I want him to write down his reads so far. I have given my reads in spades.. he doubts my contributions, but look at his half-attempts as I list below. (My reads are via the qusetions I choose to pressure with) and the cases I choose to make. I do not put my vote lightly ever. On January 14 2013 00:14 Mandalor wrote: I advocate going for the easy targets first. We might have a really good scum player in the game, but most of them will show characteristic scum traits and I feel like that's what we should focus on for now. On January 14 2013 00:50 Mandalor wrote: Easy targets are more likely to flip scum. Everybody, except Sylencia, last game showed those traits. There is no reason for me to think that all scum players in this game are geniusses. This is all rubbish... this game has approximately 6 or 7 lurkers... that means if all 3 mafia are there... you have 3/7 chance to lynch mafia, and 4/7 chance to lynch scum.... if 6 players is 50/50.. why take this risk (unless you dont care because your two listed are town!) On January 14 2013 01:10 Mandalor wrote: But I'm thinking town is going to lynch Trotske or laguerta? Noone ever mentioned any suspicions on them except for me afaik. ] So because you raise 2 lurkers.. town should lynch them.. What type of thought process is this.. SCum hunting is more than picking 2 names out of a hat.. you need to question them.. Try and prove them innocent (there is a higher likelihood any player is town).. if the act funny.. push them harder (like I am about to do to you) On January 14 2013 05:12 Mandalor wrote: So, basically apart from trolling, you want to lynch a lurker which gives us 0 information. I'm not a huge fan of lynching annoying people to get rid of them, but you make a damn good case for it. ##Vote: bringaniga Shape up and I'll change my vote. Finishes by Giving up on his 2 reads he pushed so far and joining the bandwagon.. what type of serious town play is this . it reads all to me as a guy who doesnt care who the vote goes on.
Yes I voted for Sn0_Man.. and I still don't like him... but... I thought as town we were meant to vote not for a lurker.. [b]but for our best scum read. Can you tell me that the points im making are confirmation biased? Can you tell me that the points Im making do not suggest scum motivations? Any town player can make his points.. but.. why would they? Hes trying to looking like contributing.. but is he rerally contributing You misunderstood a LOT of the stuff I said. Maybe I wasn't clear, maybe it's language barrier idk. * Your play in XXXIII looked weird to me, not this one. I thought you lived longer in XXXIII, but I never claimed you were around all game? No idea where you got that from. But I guess I should've reread that game. * I was trying to look for stuff that could've triggered a town Sn0_Man to attack you. We all agreed that we should evaluate cases, argue for and against them. That's what I did. * How am I not pressuring my reads? What more am I supposed to do? I was waiting for Trotske to contribute. He looks a lot better for now, tho I would still like some more info. And I voted for laguerta. Yes I should have voted for him before anyone else did. But then you or oats or whoever would then claim how I waste my vote on a lurker noone will vote and how that is scummy. * I did not question you why original contest is useful. Stop putting words in my mouth. I was asking you what you meant with that entire paragraph, because I had (and still have) issues understanding it. I provided cases on players noone published a read on. How exactly is that not original content? * Again, I said you didn't post your reads in XXXIII. Apparently you died early so it kinda makes sense. I never said you don't post your reads in this game. * How am I supposed to push them more? Threaten their families? GO VOTE FOR LAGUERTA, THERE'S AN EASY SCUM TARGET RIGHT THERE. * Trotske made a decent post. His case is alright and it looked like decent contribution. You don't think so? * It was a pressure vote. And it worked, he let go of his stupid troll behavior after my vote. * And if it is so that I go for bandwagoning, explain my laguerta vote. I am the only one to vote for him. | ||
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If I happen to die, I just have one wish: Don't go after the loud players too early. Yes, there might be outspoken scum players in the game, but there are most likely more quiet scum players. Don't cannibalize (Mocsta's words). There is a point in the game where you can go for the louder people. But the fact that they're outspoken means you'll have a lot more to work with later in the game. Good night everybody. | ||
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On January 14 2013 08:21 Oatsmaster wrote: [/spoiler]Mandalor, what changed from earlier? You were not even close to active this time of the day yesterday. So, basically apart from trolling, you want to lynch a lurker which gives us 0 information. Umm you want to lynch a lurker too, laguerta.. ##Unvote ##Vote: Mandalor You too [spolier] ##Unvote ##Vote: laguerta Explain your vote. Now. I slept through the day yesterday. I said that earlier. I was at a friend's birthday party and had way too much alcohol. I'm old and it takes me 3 days to get in good shape again nowadays. Laguerta is not an extreme lurker. He has a couple of posts, all of them with shitty content. I don't understand what else you want me to say? I had an eye on laguerta earlier and now he appears out of nowhere and places a bandwagon vote without any explanation whatsoever. He then excuses himself saying that he's lazy. And I am the one you want to lynch? Seriously? -------- On January 14 2013 08:13 Mocsta wrote: Thanks forthe feedback mandalor. Remember a townie knows he is innocent. Why do u think i can post on the fly. Because im confident i am town and that my actions will speaker louder than my words. Your overly defensive and emotional case defense sits uncomfortably with me. i dont associate your reactions as a townie defense..it reads to me as a last resort post does anyone else feel this way? I.e. Too defensive and emotional to be confident in his alignment? Of course it's a last resort post. It's late, I'm tired. I really reaaaaally need to go to bed and this is all I can say before I might die. And yes, I get veeery emotional when people vote me when I'm town. I'd love if that was not the case, but it is. I don't expect you to read up on my old games, but I was in a similar situation in Mafia LVI when Mattchew accused me and I countered with a really angry post and an OMGUS. So maybe I'm different? But I would expect any townie to get at least a little mad when he's falsely accused. As you know this is not the first game I played. And funny enough I have been suspected early in every game I played so far, no matter my alignment. I joined this newbie game to maybe work with coaches on that. I didn't pm my coach early enough I guess. Okay, that's it. No more F5. It's shutdown time. | ||
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Except for thrawn. That was an unnecessarily cruel death! jkjk gl town | ||
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For a second I thought JSL's weird defense could work  On January 23 2013 22:13 Mocsta wrote: Hey, Im a happy man, you still have the record for getting lynched Day1 in a newbie game. Not an easy accomplishment to achieve I guess heyhey! | ||
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