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On February 04 2013 21:59 Clockwork Hydra wrote: Yup. I also regularly claim vig as scum and shoot my scumbuddy in the face. Oh wait. Nobody does that because it doesn't work.
The only reason I felt it needed to be brought to your attention is because idiots keep bringing it up as if they might be seriously entertaining the idea. Like... if you want to call me scum, go through my filter and make a case. Otherwise, go bugger a goat.
/Acro
Are you guys always this defensive?
/zebezt
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I screwed up thinking my assignment was due Wednesday, and it is actually due today so I won't have time until tonight to put much thought into this other than quickly addressing the attack plans:
Yes to "double-lynch". My choices would be AS and 1 of stutters/nova today.
1 ninja in play, 1 walker that can attack. and I'll probably ninjutsu ink-eyes this turn (assuming no blockers). This would give 7 damage from me this turn.
I've got 2 more walkers to play this turn, and a land. I've also got ninja alternatives in the event that getting ink-eyes out wouldn't kill someone (meaning 4 total damage instead of 7). The alternative would most likely a skullsnatcher ninjutsu'd and a phantom warrior this turn.
~Hopeless
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On February 04 2013 23:53 Clockwork Hydra wrote:
General mtg advice: @Rock: you can attack anybody you like with your Phyrexian thingy, so attack us: we won't block it. Then ninja in your giant beasty to do 5 damage to the target you actually want to kill.
Unfortunately this is not how ninjitsu works. It has to attack the same target as the original creature.
/zebezt
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It's interesting how in clockwork-town suddenly everybody is on board with attacking Suck.
There might be interest in killing aperture, but I'm not sure about your other target.
/zebezt
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bleh, I'm stuck at work for a while longer tonight. getting really paranoid though.. is CH trying to get rid of the people with the strongest decks? I have no idea how strong everybodies decks are. But AS and suck seem to certainly have the weirdest decks.. probably setting up for monster combo's. Happened to me last game too, and then it all turned out alright though  anywayz.. crunch time for me now. bbasaic Maybe AS is scummish, but definately not convinced on suck.
/zebezt
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Ah.. finally back home beer time!
My thoughts on lynching today. I'm okay with lynching 2 people, as long as Nova is one of em.
I was getting a little paranoid about CH, but I have decided it's probably too much of a longshot that he is actually scum. Will try to spend my energy on other things for now.
Going to read through CH's case on suck, and see what I can find out about Aperture.
/zebezt
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Hmmm.. DFTP makes alot of sense. I suppose we should double lynch for sure. I'm just not convinced on the targets yet.
/zebezt
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On February 04 2013 21:19 Clockwork Hydra wrote:
Second, I agree that Aperture needs to die. ... Why not advising Xfire doesn't make him town: if I were scum I would advise Xfire to blow shit up at the end of the attack phase (before damage resolution of course). This has 2 advantages: the first is that town might spend extra resources in killing you and the second is that you know exactly how much damage you need to prevent. The disadvantage is that town might blow up your creatures before you can blow shit up, meaning you might need to sac more lands.
/Acro
hmmm I disagree with this. You might be right about that it would actually be better to wait, but then why DIDN'T he wait?
/zebezt
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*sigh Gotta admit. CHs case has some merit to it. Can't say I agree with some points, but others are pretty good. Marv's defense isn't all that great either. Marv's defense seemed bad from earlier attacks already (burglars what?) Does this just mean marv is not good at making sense? Or not making sense under pressure... I suppose I should check some of marv's earlier games tomorrow to get an idea. Good thing there is so much time left till attacks have to be announced 
/zebezt
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On February 05 2013 06:29 Aperture Science wrote:Show nested quote +On February 05 2013 06:01 RockHydra wrote:On February 04 2013 21:19 Clockwork Hydra wrote:
Second, I agree that Aperture needs to die. ... Why not advising Xfire doesn't make him town: if I were scum I would advise Xfire to blow shit up at the end of the attack phase (before damage resolution of course). This has 2 advantages: the first is that town might spend extra resources in killing you and the second is that you know exactly how much damage you need to prevent. The disadvantage is that town might blow up your creatures before you can blow shit up, meaning you might need to sac more lands.
/Acro hmmm I disagree with this. You might be right about that it would actually be better to wait, but then why DIDN'T he wait? /zebezt His point is that GreY and I are good at MtG, therefore we would have told Xfire to wait. At least I think thats it
I think you think wrong.
Anywayz.. I'm off to bed. Was a pretty exhausting day, and tomorrow is promising not to be much better.
tomorrows todo list: read up on Apertures posts, read earlier games of marv
/zebezt
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On February 05 2013 07:11 (DontFear)ThePoster wrote: Hopeless has been kind of absent lately as well (I think). I'd like his thoughts on this whole thing What exactly? Not killing AS now? Because that actually sounds completely reasonable, I prefer to WIFOM that dilemma into AS being town. That means I should want stutters and Nova based on my previous reads. I'm reconsidering stutters. He wants me to update my read on him and doesn't want to let me off the hook for what I've said. That feels townie to me.
Based on the interaction between marv and acro, I'd prefer SuckMyTopDeck over AS for today's primary lynch target.
I'm rereading Nova to see if I still want him as my second choice. One of the rare times my hydra-head and I manage to agree. I'm around for 10ish minutes and then headed out to dinner. I'll be catching up properly later tonight. ~Hopeless
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Yeah but at least it rationalized why DoD got dropped ~Hopeless
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Good morning all Marv not wanting to talk anymore doesn't really help their case. This game is getting way too confusing. Just too many scum candidates. Hopefully tonight I can make sense of things.
Almost starting to feel like getting 4 people low on health today and then killing them all off in the next day. Then at least we know we have enough KP left over tomorrow. scum must surely be between nova/AS/CH/Suck
Was thinking about CH again. On one hand, there isn't much reason for CH to go after Suck if they are scum, besides a deck that looks a little stronger. On the other hand, xfire outing himself early sure did a lot of good for CH's reputation. Xfire is still not dead yet. Normally we would have at least be a little weary of CH until flip. But now he has been able to enjoy all his town cred for several days already. A good reason to give up and out yourself is if you KNOW you will be focussed down. How would you know for sure? If your powerful scumbuddy tells you they will kill you. I guess I'm back to being paranoid.
/zebezt
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ok ok CH I need to take a chill pill. Although I still think ignoring people with useless scum accusations is more helpful. Doesn't waste so much time. If I had to deal with everybody that had some weird scumfeel about us, I wouldnt have time to scumhunt.
I still think we should lynch nova instead of AS though. At least AS tries to be useful, nova is completely useless. And super suspicious with bullshit about xfire maybe not being scum.
/zebezt
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Is there a chance there is more than 2 scum in this game? Then what are we talking about? We have suck and xfire xfire is already just about dead. So just kill suck and do a celabratory dance.
Or wtf does marv mean with her mafia claim? All I read after her claim was "WIFOM WIFOM WIFOM WIFOM WIFOM WIFOM"
/zebezt
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I have no idea why we should let people attack us. Just because you are too lazy to read our filter? That would put us super in scumbeast reach if I'm not mistaken. What is your plan there? We should just attack the scummy people: suck/nova
/zebezt
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I have no problem attacking nova with the creatures we have out now. But we will block anyone attacking us with the creatures we are casting this turn. Town is not helped at all by us dying.
/zebezt
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Glad my other head agrees
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Stop acting like idiots.. it makes you seem very suspicious. We can attack with 2 creatures. Nova has 1. therefore 1 is unblocked -> 5/5+4/4
if we take 6 damage then we die to scumbeast. how are the 5/5 and 4/4 helping us then?
Why should people attack us when there isn't even a case on us?
/zebezt
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