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(DontFear)ThePoster
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Marv gives me slight town feels with his attitude (attitude alone though, not his play, i.e lack of scumhunting and taking a strong position in town), but you gave me so many "bad" feelings dude. Like you going against Nova up there, and having that "I don't give a fuck" attitude. Let's start somewhere: Skim Nova's filter from the previous game. Do you still find him scummy? Do you agree with what I've said a few posts back? /G | ||
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(DontFear)ThePoster
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Also again, if you had to choose, which one of Nova/Cross/Stutters is scum and why? Or if you think all 3 are town, explain to me why you think Cross is town On January 31 2013 05:06 Aperture Science wrote: Basically there's two likely possible scumteams: hydra+maverick and hydra+hydra. in the previous sentence, which word appeared more, hydra or maverick? that what kind of player we should focus on to find scum. What's your "updated" read on Bin? What about the other hydras? If you guys are going against Nova+Stutters/etc, remember: It's VERY unlikely 2 of them are scum. Thus, if you find Nova suspicious, you basically find Stutters and Crossfire like confirmed town. Same with the other 2. Thus, if you put suspicion on any of them, before spouting stuff in the thread (or rather before actively FoSing any of them), think about how that changes your read on Stutters/Crossfire, and see if it's consistent and you agree. If you think something is wrong, then better reconsider your initial push (unless you want to pressure the guy, which is fine I guess) I am suspicious of Crossfire, and I don't see any inconsistencies with my reads on Nova and Stutters, thus I'm slightly more confident in that read. | ||
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(DontFear)ThePoster
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I do want to wait to see what he pulls up, although I don't think it'll surprise me or anything. Last game, he said "Kill Fulla, and maybe Zealos/Grey" on T1 and that's it regarding what he was pushing. I don't see much change in his "decisiveness" from there, can you point that out? Also again, how does this change your read on Stutters and Crossfire? /G | ||
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(DontFear)ThePoster
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On January 31 2013 04:29 Clockwork Hydra wrote: I had thought you prided yourself on being able to read hopeless relatively well? ~dandel And I thought you knew how to play mafia. Marv, I want to talk to yo about this, what is your read on Hopeless and why? I want someone to talk this out with me and you are the man for the job. | ||
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(DontFear)ThePoster
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Crossfire/Stutters, if you don't come back until then Imma be very disappointed Aperture, you are here, showed by you posting a little while ago. Why aren't you casting anything? Would you or would you not give more mana to Join Forces? /G | ||
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(DontFear)ThePoster
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On January 30 2013 16:00 Nova_Terra wrote: This this this this 1000x. Bothers me way more than aperture/igrok and his pms or whatever. Im going to try to get a short analysis of why i find suck to be scummy during work. I find this post townie for a reason. I don't get the feeling scum Nova would jump on it like this, just to get "enthusiastic" about it and then promise the "analysis" on Suck I find it more likely townies jumping on posts like mine that way, while scum would say something like "Hmm, I agree with you bla bla bla I think they are both indeed suspicious bla bla bla". It's the way he did it basically. I don't really see anything that can tell you "Yes he's surely scum" like you guys say. Yes, he "barely" called you out....but he's Nova. You guys are "vets" and thus finding evidence to point you as scummy is not as easy as saying "Fulla/Zealos is not doing shit kill him", which is pretty easy to do and effortless, and he in fact did last game. You can in fact see him thinking Grey is scum but never really posting anything about it (in the last game). He did in fact "promise" to make an analysis on you guys, and IRL stuff kicked in and he couldn't, so him not making a case yet is not alignment-indicative Like...I can't see why you guys are "so convinced" about him being scum. /G | ||
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(DontFear)ThePoster
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Get it out there before I forget /G | ||
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(DontFear)ThePoster
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On January 31 2013 05:52 RockHydra wrote: A question! I'm going to ignore it first, because your statement that if nova is scummy that stutters/cross are almost confirmed town is of course non sense. If Nova is confirmed scum, then stutters and cross are just as likely as anyone else to be scum. It's obviously a figure of speech. Also if you think there is a scum between the hydra then what I said is true And why does that make you now answer my question about Suck? :/ Wut On January 31 2013 05:53 Stutters695 wrote: Back up. You guys post a lot. So do you think that Marv is town based on that or do you think despite the attitude he is more scummy than town? Marv's "lazy" attitude gives me a slight town feeling, in the sense that he didn't seem to "push a scum agenda" and actively try to disrupt town and the like like I'd expect from scum marv. I'm not that sure about them to be honest, and I don't know if I should rely on that... On January 31 2013 05:57 SuckMyTopdeck wrote: Where did I say he's "surely" scum? I think he has a pretty decent chance of being mafia, a higher chance than Crossfire indeed. Well, you made a gigantic case on him and concluded with "let's kill him". I'd think that's calling him surely scum. If you don't find multiple promises of future content without delivering to be scummy, given how close we are to the end of day 1, due to his 'irl' excuses, then there's not a lot i can do about that. You really believe him not following up with that "case" on yours is intentional? /G | ||
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(DontFear)ThePoster
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I don't really like iGrok's and zbest's lack of involvement in these discussions (about Suck/Nova/etc). Fuck even Stutters came out of nowhere to be in that discussion....and he's Stutters (speaking of which Stutters.....I'd gladly expect something else from you now  )/G | ||
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(DontFear)ThePoster
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The alternatives are: 1 of Nova/Stutters being scum: I just don't see this right now. Gut town feeling on both 2 hydras are scum: I don't see this because I can't even figure out which single hydra is scum. 2 of them being scum, just doesn't "ring" to me based on everybody's play so far, and there's not much to go on to hold on to that theory. Plus it means Cross is town....which I also find a little bit hard to believe. /G | ||
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(DontFear)ThePoster
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I don't see the need to differentiate between you 2 in this case. /G | ||
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(DontFear)ThePoster
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On January 30 2013 16:41 (DontFear)ThePoster wrote: Final question (sorry for spamming people  , I want these answered before I wake up though ):@Suck: Why did you give 2 mana to Join Forces, if you know CH will use his Zombie thingy and use discarded cards to put zombies? You basically gave CH, your "top scumread", 1 zombie for free Why is this? /G He was indeed your "top scumread" at the time, based on your post at least /G | ||
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(DontFear)ThePoster
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Or even if you gave him 1 zombie, you didn't care and thought everybody getting 2 more cards was better? /G | ||
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(DontFear)ThePoster
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On January 31 2013 06:09 SuckMyTopdeck wrote: huh. I've not picked anything up on him for good or for bad. Like someone else said, aren't you the Hopeless expert? Lets play a game where you go read his filter and come back to me with your conclusions. I already have mine but I need to see yours. Thanks. P | ||
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(DontFear)ThePoster
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Nice effort I guess though. What do you think about the other stuff said about him? You can check my filter if you want to find some of that stuff I'm kind of here just waiting until: -NMM 4's Day Phase ends so we can discuss shit with Prome -At least one of Stutters/Crossfire/Rock/Aperture decide to contribute anything at all. Like...it's even likely the 2 scum are in that group of 4, and at worst I'd bet my life that at least there is 1 scum in that group. Stutters, where the hell did you go? You just came out of your lurkiness to call me out, and that's it. Why "actively lurking"? /G | ||
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(DontFear)ThePoster
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You haven't even used mana for Join Forces. Yeah, I'm fine killing you; convince me otherwise /G | ||
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