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seemingly out of nowhere very close to the main phase deadline which means our decision has to be more rash which is never a good thing*
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Oh Jesus. I'm retarded. I could have sworn it was today. Well that changes it quite a bit, my main suspicion was how opportunistic it felt. I'd still recommend making absolutely sure for yourself, but I'm not nearly as worried currently then.
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Would love to hear what AS and Suck think we should do both if they're getting killed and what they would do if they're left alive. Also would love to hear from Nova, it feels kind of wrong to not lynch him with his play, but the case against Marv is pretty compelling (especially in contrast to LIX) and I would expect more out of both AS heads than out of Nova in addition to Nova being much less of a threat magic wise it seems.
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I'm here. There just hasnt been a lot to say since most of it is just bitching and omgus. I still think nova and AS are more likely scum than marv but I don't have a lot of say in it today.
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I'm up. I'm still not sure this is the best course of action but we're committed so I'll roll with it.
I'm putting my 2 on AS correct?
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On February 07 2013 00:15 SuckMyTopdeck wrote:Stutters - stick around for a moment. How did you go from Show nested quote +On February 05 2013 08:34 Stutters695 wrote:On February 05 2013 08:15 Clockwork Hydra wrote:We aren't town because we made a case on Xfire. We know he was acting super scummy and several people realized it. However, if you were to click on our filter and read a few of our posts, you would realize how much nonsense your allegation is. Also, we're not "milking the xfire case". We are trying to kill scum. PS. If you think "milking the xfire case" is scummy, we present scum Marv: On February 01 2013 09:32 SuckMyTopdeck wrote:On February 01 2013 09:28 (DontFear)ThePoster wrote:
Anyways, we can go hunting for the remaining scum
Who here thinks Aperture isn't the remaining scum?
Also, who thinks that CH/me/Rock/Bin could possibly be scum in any way possible (regarding what's happening with Xfire and previous interactions)? Please raise your hand.
/G Well Nova looks much better now, I'm happy to get off my Burgler tunnel, even if it was the best thing ever. CH obviously looks much better compared to my previous list because of the Crossfire stuff. This obviously leaves a really large line where CH has moved up a lot as well as Nova, and Crossfire moved down. The first thing I did in this game was agree that Crossfire was scummy and attack Aperture. I'm totes an MTG master. And he never even made a case on Xfire, just non-committally "agreed" to it. Taking credit for a scum lynch when you didn't do jack shit for it? Hell yeah, sign scum Marv up (this scumtell was brought to you by Dandel Ion, the best Ion). /Acro I'm 100% for an AS Marv flip. unless people present valid reasons why that shouldn't be the case I'm going to play the rest of the turn as they're town. If that's wrong, we win no harm done, but if they are town we shouldn't stifle discussion. Show nested quote +On February 05 2013 10:50 Stutters695 wrote:
Would love to hear what AS and Suck think we should do both if they're getting killed and what they would do if they're left alive. Also would love to hear from Nova, it feels kind of wrong to not lynch him with his play, but the case against Marv is pretty compelling (especially in contrast to LIX) and I would expect more out of both AS heads than out of Nova in addition to Nova being much less of a threat magic wise it seems. to Show nested quote +On February 06 2013 11:51 Stutters695 wrote:
I'm here. There just hasnt been a lot to say since most of it is just bitching and omgus. I still think nova and AS are more likely scum than marv but I don't have a lot of say in it today. ?
I think the case against you is compelling but I can't shake this suspicion that CH is trying to lynch you before developing into an unkillable position. It's irrational and more than likely wrong (still paranoid after losing YANMM lylo). Your flip makes logical sense for two reasons though: 1) Your scum play is highly touted and I've never seen it so I could be completely wrong about my feel and 2) your deck is much more threatening than Novas. Dropping you first makes more sense if the others are convinced.
This just feels too easy, but we'll see in a few hours.
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On February 07 2013 00:39 Aperture Science wrote:
Attacking me is a waste of time since I still cannot do anything. I have 6 lands and a brightstone ritual. There is not a single card I could draw that would let me do anything next turn either.
Kill off suck and stutters, suck because theres a good case on him, and stutters because I still think he's scum and if he is, next turn he''ll be unkillable.
Sorry, how am I unkillable next turn? I've looking at 2 4/4s, one of which can't attack. If I get lucky and pull a creature (like a 40% chance just estimating), we're looking at 3 4/4s, only one of which can attack and I have a life total low enough to die to town even if I were to chump (which I don't plan on doing).
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On February 07 2013 01:01 SuckMyTopdeck wrote:Show nested quote +On February 07 2013 00:50 Stutters695 wrote:On February 07 2013 00:15 SuckMyTopdeck wrote:Stutters - stick around for a moment. How did you go from On February 05 2013 08:34 Stutters695 wrote:On February 05 2013 08:15 Clockwork Hydra wrote:We aren't town because we made a case on Xfire. We know he was acting super scummy and several people realized it. However, if you were to click on our filter and read a few of our posts, you would realize how much nonsense your allegation is. Also, we're not "milking the xfire case". We are trying to kill scum. PS. If you think "milking the xfire case" is scummy, we present scum Marv: On February 01 2013 09:32 SuckMyTopdeck wrote:On February 01 2013 09:28 (DontFear)ThePoster wrote:
Anyways, we can go hunting for the remaining scum
Who here thinks Aperture isn't the remaining scum?
Also, who thinks that CH/me/Rock/Bin could possibly be scum in any way possible (regarding what's happening with Xfire and previous interactions)? Please raise your hand.
/G Well Nova looks much better now, I'm happy to get off my Burgler tunnel, even if it was the best thing ever. CH obviously looks much better compared to my previous list because of the Crossfire stuff. This obviously leaves a really large line where CH has moved up a lot as well as Nova, and Crossfire moved down. The first thing I did in this game was agree that Crossfire was scummy and attack Aperture. I'm totes an MTG master. And he never even made a case on Xfire, just non-committally "agreed" to it. Taking credit for a scum lynch when you didn't do jack shit for it? Hell yeah, sign scum Marv up (this scumtell was brought to you by Dandel Ion, the best Ion). /Acro I'm 100% for an AS Marv flip. unless people present valid reasons why that shouldn't be the case I'm going to play the rest of the turn as they're town. If that's wrong, we win no harm done, but if they are town we shouldn't stifle discussion. On February 05 2013 10:50 Stutters695 wrote:
Would love to hear what AS and Suck think we should do both if they're getting killed and what they would do if they're left alive. Also would love to hear from Nova, it feels kind of wrong to not lynch him with his play, but the case against Marv is pretty compelling (especially in contrast to LIX) and I would expect more out of both AS heads than out of Nova in addition to Nova being much less of a threat magic wise it seems. to On February 06 2013 11:51 Stutters695 wrote:
I'm here. There just hasnt been a lot to say since most of it is just bitching and omgus. I still think nova and AS are more likely scum than marv but I don't have a lot of say in it today. ? I think the case against you is compelling but I can't shake this suspicion that CH is trying to lynch you before developing into an unkillable position. It's irrational and more than likely wrong (still paranoid after losing YANMM lylo). Your flip makes logical sense for two reasons though: 1) Your scum play is highly touted and I've never seen it so I could be completely wrong about my feel and 2) your deck is much more threatening than Novas. Dropping you first makes more sense if the others are convinced. This just feels too easy, but we'll see in a few hours. but the last quote said you think Nova and AS were more likely to be scum. Is that true or not? If it is true, why do you now think that compared to before?
This is going to.sound weird but I think Nova has always been a better flip compared to you (Marv specifically) in terms of being scum. However my lack of knowledge of your meta/reading you, snb's complete lack of interest, and the much bigger threat you pose via your deck if you are scum and I've read you wrong means your flip is much safer because Nova is much easier to deal with next turn than yourself.
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On February 07 2013 01:23 Aperture Science wrote:
He contradicts himself multiple times, and (to me at least) it seems like he's always trying to be on whatever bandwagon is rolling (but never on it TOO hard).
I read a lot of people say stutters was a town read, but I didn't really think there were convincing arguments for that. I still think he is on the FBI's Most Wanted list
Sorry to disappoint, but I change my mind a lot unless I'm sure. Sure it means I push some stuff that will inevitably be wrong but in exchange for that we see how people react. I always explain why I think what I do as transparently as possible. This is easily the most town game I've played, I'd encourage you to check my previous games if you think otherwise.
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My hand really was ass after I got those random discards going into t2 That really fucked my shit up.
AS were you being honest about your hand or did you have some serious stuff up your sleeve if we didn't kill you?
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haha never mind. Damn that would have sucked to have our reads right but lose because we lacked anything to stop that.
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On February 07 2013 03:18 Aperture Science wrote:Show nested quote +On February 07 2013 03:17 MidnightGladius wrote:
lol, I can't believe you were allowed to play an alignment-disregarding finisher in Comet Storm. I have no sympathy for you :3 Oh, so MTG should only cater to people who just want to play big monsters and swing? (Or lots of little ones I guess)
No but running a win-con that one you get rolling early wins regardless of your alignment/others actions goes against the whole mafia portion of the game. There are plenty of things you can do short of a loop into auto-win that aren't just swing big creatures but it certainly isn't traditional magic either way with no counters to instants and the like
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I'd totally play a draft mtg mafia but I feel the balance would be all sorts of fucked.
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On February 07 2013 08:01 Promethelax wrote:
The thing is, this game is so heavily themed that the balance is already totally whack; look at how scum could have won day four even though both were caught day one. With so many 'power roles' in town the balance depends highly on town making good reads, if you have seven viggis shooting into each other town is in a terrible place.
This would be a very interesting PYP/PTP game since we would all try to balance it for ourselves.
Crossfire, the hell were you planning to do with that deck had you rolled town?
Yeah, I can see this game turning into a shitfest really quick if it wasn't so easy to establish town reads on some of the stronger decks. It kind of forced everyone to treat this more like a traditional game and less like a game of mtg. The mafia monster kind of contributed to that as well. Seems like this is really hard for the mafia unless they play a win-con like AS did and it all falls into place. Was fun though, thanks for hosting Artanis
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