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They seem town enough to me. MG makes a good point about the cards that they play. They are helpful to town. Of course we have to see how that pans out next turn, but right now we don't have much in the way of damage to throw around anyway. The main source of confusion seems to be oats, who is playing very weirdly. I think this is just down to bad play. Played with him in newbie game and he did not make a very strong impression on me there. My thoughts on CW: Seems happy to have people play a card that will help him a lot, although he was wary of cards that help a certain person too much. Makes total sense to me. Anyone will be happy if a card is played that helps them, wether they are scum or town. I am wary of giving too much power to CW, but I would love it if a card would turn out great for me. /zebezt | ||
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On January 31 2013 05:01 (DontFear)ThePoster wrote: Well, I'd like to see that math of yours. I got that there is a 9% chance no hydra is scum, and that's if scum are chosen uniformly (I might have gotten it wrong though) Take away uniformity to take balance and stuff into account, and that chance is even smaller. Take into account that Nova doesn't seem to be scum, thus that the only way no hydra is scum is if both Stutters+Crossfire are scum, and that chance goes even lower and lower. Also lol: If I am scum, then what I'm saying is 100% true isn't it? I want to put attention on hydras, and not let anybody fly under the radar. Again (I've said this like 10 times), so we don't repeat what happened last game. I won't 100% oppose a Stutters+Crossfire scumteam though, if there is evidence for such. And I'd probably not oppose it after someone flips, not before most likely. /G Bleh.. I kinda forgot you are a hydra too, since you never sign your posts ![]() Also I was wrong on the math. *sigh I should sleep early tonight. On third attempt I arrive at 8% (3/9)*(2/8) I might be off on that again though. Why do you think Nova is not scum? I just looked through his filter He did not post a whole lot. Did not scumhunt very hard. Made some "me too" posts. Didn't really scream "town" to me /zebezt | ||
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Is that likely to happen? /zebezt | ||
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On January 31 2013 05:33 (DontFear)ThePoster wrote: @Rock: What do you think of Suck? You haven't mentioned them in that "thoughts" post of yours. Also again, if you had to choose, which one of Nova/Cross/Stutters is scum and why? Or if you think all 3 are town, explain to me why you think Cross is town What's your "updated" read on Bin? What about the other hydras? If you guys are going against Nova+Stutters/etc, remember: It's VERY unlikely 2 of them are scum. Thus, if you find Nova suspicious, you basically find Stutters and Crossfire like confirmed town. Same with the other 2. Thus, if you put suspicion on any of them, before spouting stuff in the thread (or rather before actively FoSing any of them), think about how that changes your read on Stutters/Crossfire, and see if it's consistent and you agree. If you think something is wrong, then better reconsider your initial push (unless you want to pressure the guy, which is fine I guess) I am suspicious of Crossfire, and I don't see any inconsistencies with my reads on Nova and Stutters, thus I'm slightly more confident in that read. A question! I'm going to ignore it first, because your statement that if nova is scummy that stutters/cross are almost confirmed town is of course non sense. If Nova is confirmed scum, then stutters and cross are just as likely as anyone else to be scum. Aaaaaaaaaanyway, I'm gonna take your word for it for now that Nova is playing normally. I don't have the time to check it unfortunately. Between stutters and crossfire, crossfire is the obvious choice just because of the lurkiness. I've read through both filters, and neither struck me as very scummy or townie. Crossfire hardly posted anything at all though. The game is still short though.. so that might all change. Crossfire made some excuses about not knowing mtg very well, but hasn't done any of the normal scumhunting either. As a bonus, my read on DFTP: seemed scummy to me at first, but for no good raisin. Tried reading his filter, gave up, seemed genuinely angry at the trolling though, so that's nice. Also warning people to play their cards is appreciated. So feeling a bit more confident on towniness now. Now im going to play shuriken! ninja hydra ftw! /zebezt | ||
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I've just caught up with the thread, I'd like to echo this: On January 31 2013 07:23 SuckMyTopdeck wrote: I don't think I've ever read anything that less demonstrates how someone is mafia. For that, I congratulate you. -marvelbabe In no way does this constitute a townread on suckmytopdeck, but I didn't find much in that case. For one thing, it only addressed the FIRST PAGE of SuckMyTopDeck's filter. He was up to four pages at the time of posting. As to what was asked of my hydra-head, I'm not sure if you specifically wanted zebezt's read or a read from "us", but I can't read marv day 1 for the life of me. He's null until he fails to give a shit as the game progresses. SnB is banking heavily on his "experience" from MTG (I) as far as I can tell. They've both started to show suspicion towards Nova, which is completely reasonable to me. I also have a problem with cross neglecting to tell us anything about what he's doing, so I agree with DFTP (both of them) On January 31 2013 08:02 (DontFear)ThePoster wrote: Cute scum claim cross, good to see you working with town on this one. P I also have a good fucking reason to dislike the presence of deathrite shaman on the board, so that's an even bigger kick in the nuts from Cross. I have no reason to attack this turn, so I'm not gonna. I wouldn't mind if cross pointed his goblin guide at me since I can block it with minimal/no repercussions (aside from a tapped goblin). ~Hopeless | ||
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On January 31 2013 08:04 Artanis[Xp] wrote: Attack Phase 1 has now begun. Remember that all creatures have haste. ALL creatures, or creatures played during Turn 1 (as per the OP)? Also, I think SnB asked, the ninja deck is just for fun. My draw looks alright, but I'm not really going to be a powerhouse for a while, if at all. ~Hopeless | ||
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On January 31 2013 10:05 Hopeless1der wrote: Nova vs Suck Colors are relative and not necessarily representative of strong reads Aperture That analysis post/link is awesome as far as scumhunting goes. He's set a standard for himself that needs to be upheld so I feel quite good about his overall contributions so far, and I expect similar in the future. At least 1 hydra... BinOnFire is my pick right now if I have to pick one, but I don't necessarily subscribe to the 1 (non)-hydra MUST 100% be scum. I'm rereading right now and grabbing dinner. Back soon. ~Hopeless Oh yeah, the hydra part of this. | ||
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I guess I was afraid of this. I don't have any good reads on anyone, "so that means we're scum". It's BS of course. The game is only 1 day long, there isn't much to go on yet. It's not my style to accuse people based on trivialities. /zebezt | ||
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I have no previous knowledge of hopeless' gameplay so I can't comment on that. He posted some reads in QT, that he might elaborate on himself when he is ready. /zebezt | ||
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On January 31 2013 17:09 (DontFear)ThePoster wrote: Actually, this game is 3 days long, dear. The "there isn't much to go on yet" part is false, at least to form opinions (if not black and white "he's scum/town" reads). Also in a normal game you'd be crucified for saying that (considering you would have voted for a lynch by now). Also hey, I don't have "good reads" on people either, yet I'm not being called out as scum, which reduces the possibilities for scum in many people's eyes, thus making the game easier for town. That's something isn't it? You guys should try it some time. /G I'm not your dear, buddy ![]() If I would have had to vote, my vote would have gone to crossfire for posting absolutely nothing, yet finding time to cast spells. Suck is starting to look suspicious to me, but that is mainly based on what I read skimming through the thread this morning. Good post from Nova I think. I haven't read Suck's filter myself yet, so I'm not going to deep into it. Just checked all of CH's discards, pretty cool looking deck. I noticed a nevinerals (?) disk being discarded. That seems slightly townie to me. If I was scum I would hang on to that bad boy. Blasting away everything is pretty good for scum since their mob survives. /zebezt | ||
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![]() My last post before the one where I said I had only had 1 day was before the mainphase was over. /zebezt | ||
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regarding xfire, I find this post particulary interesting On January 31 2013 08:19 Crossfire99 wrote:This makes no sense seriously. I'm just...lask;dfjkl;sdjlakj.f...aaaaaarrrrrrgggggggggggggg...why are you attacking me for playing according to my reads...ajdsfljdfiopjdoajfp It seems like tryhard appearing angry to me. Might be my confirmation bias though. His case on CH is crap. Not the kind of crap caused by not having time, but by grasping at straws if you ask me. After all his apologies there still aren't any good contributions. /zebezt | ||
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On January 31 2013 10:15 Stutters695 wrote: ... Then to defend not looking at hydras when mathematically it is way more likely for a hydra is svummy as duck to me. I never said we shouldn't look at hydra's. I just think it is weird to work from the assumption there must be a hydra. (I was an idiot and thought DFTP was not a hydra though and that this made him look scummy) I still stand by that. Anyone is as likely to be scum as anyone else, so logically it makes no sense to ask a question like "who do you think is the scum hydra". Better to just ask who is scum. | ||
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On January 31 2013 23:09 (DontFear)ThePoster wrote: I'm interested zeb, can you make a case on our friend Xfire? I'd like to see your points laid out in one place so I can see what you are thinking. p I can after dinner (approx 4 hours from now) | ||
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On January 31 2013 23:47 Clockwork Hydra wrote: Just as our discarding of Larry's Disk says NOTHING about our alignment and anybody trying to read shit into it is wrong (not that I am worried about you thinking I'm town because of it, it's just fucking stupid to use THAT of all things to think so). /Acro I'm so sorry ![]() I still think its slightly townie.. although you could have 2 more in your hand of course :D I agree though that the shaman is not indicative until it is used. Gotta play with the cards you are dealt. The timing of it all is still suspicious though. /zebezt | ||
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On January 31 2013 12:29 Hopeless1der wrote: iGrok! Are you genuinely upset that I'm lurky? Like...if someone had to pick 1 word to describe me, that's probably the one. Nah, I'm right there with you. So...I've reread and haven't come up with much that I can report on right now, nothing strikes me as scummy enough to pursue at this point. I'm headed to bed. See you all tomorrow. ~Hopeless On February 01 2013 02:56 Hopeless1der wrote: wait what? which filter have I been looking at, stutters hasn't done shit to me I swear, I'm getting the hang of this hydra thing. | ||
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On February 01 2013 03:02 Clockwork Hydra wrote: Here you say they further your goals, which is presumably to play ninjas. However, the first thing you actually DO with them is: AKA keep them as a blocker. Why the inconsistency in play? I'm starting to agree with SnB here. If a creature can attack, it should be. /Acro I have no mana with which to ninjutsu anything into play. Attacking with two 0/3 creatures for shits and giggles isn't my style unfortunately ~Hopeless | ||
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