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(DontFear)ThePoster
Guernsey584 Posts
-Waste mana on T2 to cast Soul Warden, only to have Rock instantly destroy it? -Have Rock actively try to correct Artanis' mistake (that apparently nobody else figured out) and reduce Xfire's HP? Yes or no answer, that's it. With some justification if you want of course. Also what about Nova? /G | ||
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(DontFear)ThePoster
Guernsey584 Posts
but I get a weird feeling reading his posts You "got a weird feeling" from Stutters' posts as well. Why should we believe this "feeling" of yours has any meaning at all? /G | ||
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(DontFear)ThePoster
Guernsey584 Posts
In this game you just say "Stutters gives me weird feelings" then "Oh, now Rock gives me weird feelings". There's no aggressiveness Filter: http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/viewmessage.php?topic_id=345422&user=120900 There you were also WAY too chatty about setup and "finding the hidden alliance" and all that shit, here you don't interact with nobody at all unless it's about some off-topic stuff that has nothing to do with the game (or was that iGrok?) You are not actively discussing ways to take advantage of the MTG setup to kill Xfire or kill Stutters/Rock or anything. I think I'm comfortable killing you. Anyways, your "spell copier" can work. I can just use Reckless Abandon against you, and then you should copy it to use it against Xfire to kill him Sounds good? /G | ||
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(DontFear)ThePoster
Guernsey584 Posts
On February 04 2013 09:42 Clockwork Hydra wrote: Doesn't that, like, not work because aperture doesn't have a creature? ~dandel Oh you may be right Well Aperture, better get a creature out soon. | ||
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(DontFear)ThePoster
Guernsey584 Posts
You seem awfully quite about this whole "let's figure out how to kill a confirmed scum" deal, and you+iGrok are the "experts" of magic, so you should be leading us to victory right now, yet you aren't /G | ||
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(DontFear)ThePoster
Guernsey584 Posts
*awfully quiet | ||
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(DontFear)ThePoster
Guernsey584 Posts
Could he be faking that as scum, or is a "scumslip", or just means he's town not paying attention? Thoughts? Also, if Xfire comes back and shits on us before Artanis quells my doubts I'll be a little bit angry  /G | ||
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(DontFear)ThePoster
Guernsey584 Posts
/G | ||
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(DontFear)ThePoster
Guernsey584 Posts
Seriously dudes, even if you guys aren't taking a "central role" in this town like you said, this inactivity and lack of doing stuff is worrying. Only marv tried to do some stuff, but only a little Basically I don't remember him doing much other than defending Stutters and posting a "meh I dunno" post about like half the players. Come on dude...you are not scum are you? /G | ||
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(DontFear)ThePoster
Guernsey584 Posts
On February 04 2013 10:02 Artanis[Xp] wrote: No, because it'd 'rush' people into casting spells. The no in response rule has been made to counter this, and quickly casting spells to kill someone before they can cast something would be included in that. But this applies to him the same right? Imagine I get him down to 0 HP, and he does nothing Imagine he has a "Gain 1 life" sorcery. Now imagine he plays it at the last second of this Main Phase. Wouldn't this be unfair? We'd be playing this whole Main Phase under the assumption he'd die, and he fucks that up at the last second. Could you maybe give him a "set" time for him to use a card that prevents him from dying or something? That way once that set time passes we are sure he'll die at the end of the cycle /G | ||
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(DontFear)ThePoster
Guernsey584 Posts
On February 04 2013 10:06 (DontFear)ThePoster wrote: But this applies to him the same right? Imagine I get him down to 0 HP, and he does nothing Imagine he has a "Gain 1 life" sorcery. Now imagine he plays it at the last second of this Main Phase. Wouldn't this be unfair? We'd be playing this whole Main Phase under the assumption he'd die, and he fucks that up at the last second. Could you maybe give him a "set" time for him to use a card that prevents him from dying or something? That way once that set time passes we are sure he'll die at the end of the cycle /G Of course my concerns about this is because we CAN deal A LOT of damage to him, not just 5. But we would ONLY deal 5 damage to him if it kills him. So if he has the "Gain 1 life" card, and uses it now, then we can kill him with 1 more damage this Main Phase But if he waits until the very last moment and ninja-casts, then we can't, and thus he'll survive longer when he shouldn't /G | ||
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(DontFear)ThePoster
Guernsey584 Posts
Before attacking Xfire, I want to know if this is true though: On February 04 2013 10:02 Clockwork Hydra wrote: Nope, my fellow Hydra head is wrong. Fork rulings are strange like that, but Reckless Abandon's text reads "as an additional cost". Sacrificing the creature is thus part of the casting cost, which does not need to be payed again. AS can fork the crap out of that. Hur hur hur. And if it is indeed true, what do we do about it? If Aperture does attack Xfire with it (no reason not to, no matter his alignment), then who should I attack with the 4 damage? Appy? I'm not really sure about that now, but could be. Aperture this game is giving me the same feels Grey did last game: I want to kill him just so he doesn't become an inconvenience I'm not 100% sure he's scum, there are little stuff that makes me think he's town.....but him being alive would always give us "What if he's scum?" feeling (at least it does to me) every time, specially if we kill another townie later. I kind of want him dead just because of that, just like the previous game :/ /G | ||
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(DontFear)ThePoster
Guernsey584 Posts
4 from my Reckless Abandon, and 1 left-over from Keldon Marauders 5 damage....is like a lot. It can put Aperture and Stutters below the scum beast threshold, and it can put everybody else under that threshold for next turn I don't want to be reckless with it (again assuming what Clock said about RA is true and Aperture can use it without sacrificing a creature) /G | ||
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(DontFear)ThePoster
Guernsey584 Posts
/G | ||
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(DontFear)ThePoster
Guernsey584 Posts
On February 04 2013 10:24 Nova_Terra wrote: Good news guys! In theory, i can cast both Blades of Velis Vel and a Cryptoplasm this turn. Any requests for the Blades? Bad news guys! In theory, we haven't found the remaining scum yet to use all this cool shit in. Any requests for the 2nd scum? | ||
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(DontFear)ThePoster
Guernsey584 Posts
I can kill Xfire RIGHT NOW (with help of Aperture if the above is true) Better start figuring out where all our excess KP can go to. Also technically S&B's "policy" comes true now. You can technically attack anybody else you want and think is scum now, we don't need "focused" KP anymore unless we have an unanimous read on a guy being scum /G | ||
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(DontFear)ThePoster
Guernsey584 Posts
Sorry, but I really want you to focus most of your time in either establishing you are town or hunting the other scum. Okay, thus it's done: I will deal 1 damage to Xfire, and 4+1 damage to a guy (or 2). Aperture will fork my Reckless Abandon onto Xfire, getting him to 0 HP I'll have 3 mana left to do something later, depending on the circumstances. /G | ||
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(DontFear)ThePoster
Guernsey584 Posts
I can do 11. Now that I think about it maybe we should leave S&B's "policy" by if it can give us a flip today (and hopefully the win). What do you guys think? Let people attack who you they want, or try to get a consolidation and get all damage on 1 guy (maybe more....?) to get a flip other than Xfire today? For instance we could kill 2 players tonight. In the worst case scenario they are town, then scum can't one-shot anybody, so we'll be at 4v1, with someone having 1-2 HP (scum beast), but everybody else at 16-18. In this case either scum waste the scumbeast on the 1st guy, they out themselves to kill him, or kill someone else. Also scum may not even use the scumbeast tonight if they can't one-shot someone. We need to find if we have the necessary KP to do so. Hopefully most of it comes from the Attack Phase, just in case Xfire does something to survive the 5 KP and we need to redirect KP his way /G | ||
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(DontFear)ThePoster
Guernsey584 Posts
This goes to Suck, Aperture, Nova, and the like (at least one of those are town). So far we have 22 damage between me+Clock. The highest HP is 18, so that leaves 4 left-over KP. This means (at worst) we need 14 more KP to kill a 2nd guy. Keep throwing numbers guys /G | ||
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(DontFear)ThePoster
Guernsey584 Posts
Okay, that means we need 6-8 additional damage only, or maybe less. Do you guys agree with this or not? /G | ||
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