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Stutters695
Profile Joined July 2012
2610 Posts
January 30 2013 01:08 GMT
#576
Agreed with the spam is a little much, but trolling doesn't help either. Yes we can't form amazing reads d1 usually but we're playing against a clock. We need the best reads we can come up with, not just burning a day.
Stutters695
Profile Joined July 2012
2610 Posts
January 30 2013 02:52 GMT
#596
How should we do the mana for minds aglow? Xfire doesn't seem too keen on posting, but I think he should definitely contribute to it if he shows up. Not sure who else should, how many cards are people looking to draw? I'd like to stop at 4-5 since I don't have a reanimate/flashback mechanic so I don't want to risk too many pulls. If I'm one of the only ones and I'll be pulling crazy amounts anyway I'll throw my mana in.
Stutters695
Profile Joined July 2012
2610 Posts
January 30 2013 20:53 GMT
#785
Back up. You guys post a lot.

On January 31 2013 05:23 (DontFear)ThePoster wrote:
Damn S&B, I don't know what to think of you

Marv gives me slight town feels with his attitude (attitude alone though, not his play, i.e lack of scumhunting and taking a strong position in town), but you gave me so many "bad" feelings dude.

Like you going against Nova up there, and having that "I don't give a fuck" attitude.

Let's start somewhere: Skim Nova's filter from the previous game. Do you still find him scummy? Do you agree with what I've said a few posts back?

/G


So do you think that Marv is town based on that or do you think despite the attitude he is more scummy than town?
Stutters695
Profile Joined July 2012
2610 Posts
January 30 2013 23:23 GMT
#835
CH What happened to not giving me a free pass? You said that and haven't even mentioned me since? What's going on there?

Checking what I pulled. I'll see if I have anything I can drop to help the town's monsters.
Stutters695
Profile Joined July 2012
2610 Posts
January 30 2013 23:47 GMT
#852
On January 31 2013 08:25 (DontFear)ThePoster wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 31 2013 08:23 Stutters695 wrote:
CH What happened to not giving me a free pass? You said that and haven't even mentioned me since? What's going on there?

Checking what I pulled. I'll see if I have anything I can drop to help the town's monsters.


Why didn't you cast anything last cycle?

Because I had literally nothing that was a 2 drop or less except verdant catacombs and cultivate. I now have a howling mine (if it's untapped each player draws an extra card during draw step) I can play from minds aglow. I finally pulled a monster drop but it won't be able to be played today so unless I get attacked today I'd focus on the mine tomorrow. Not having a second main phase really fucks me with my initial hand.
Stutters695
Profile Joined July 2012
2610 Posts
January 30 2013 23:49 GMT
#854
And I haven't gone anywhere. I just have a busy schedule between work and school.
Stutters695
Profile Joined July 2012
2610 Posts
January 31 2013 00:02 GMT
#858
On January 29 2013 10:41 Stutters695 wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 29 2013 10:25 (DontFear)ThePoster wrote:
We could do this:

Have the "scummiest" players use their mana for Mind Glow, maybe after 24 hours have passed.
The other "townier" players cast creatures/spells/etc.

With that, people should get 3-4 cards from Mind Glow, likely enough to fill their hands again, and at worst discard 1-2 useless cards (not discard 10 :/ )

Of course determining who uses the mana and who plays cards can be changed. Maybe someone has nothing to cast today and can use his mana for it.

I like the idea here. I can't drop any creatures today so I could fill mana but I'd much rather try to force scum to do it (in case I manage to draw something I can drop and be open to the mafia creature. Really wish I would have thought of mulliganing before I dropped my land.


I said it right here. The only issue is I didn't realize minds aglow resolved at the end of the main phase, not during until it was actually played.
Stutters695
Profile Joined July 2012
2610 Posts
January 31 2013 00:14 GMT
#860
Well crossfire is my number one read but he's been discussed to death. I'll have a post explaining my next best read when I get a few minutes of downtime at work. In the meantime I'll contribute to discussions however I can. I will say I feel a bit better about AS now that he's a bit more into it. Right now I don't think Nova is scum so if X turns out to be town I'd bet on a double hydra team.
Stutters695
Profile Joined July 2012
2610 Posts
January 31 2013 00:17 GMT
#861
To expand on aperture I think he's more likely to be town not that he is. I need to see which hydras he suspects since I'm trying not to judge him strictly on the early game.
Stutters695
Profile Joined July 2012
2610 Posts
January 31 2013 01:15 GMT
#867
Honest answer, this thread is moving really quick when I'm asleep/in class and not so much when I have time. I need to check his filter in general. Gonna do this post as a stream of my thoughts while reading.

First and foremost RH entrance feels town. He was pretty fierce about defending his 0/X creatures and seeing that they're artifacts I can see some synergies that make sense with that(memories of that artifact deck in DotP mostly). I'm not seeing the connections to a Ninja deck from that but I'm sure it'll become apparent. If he just chumps then then disregard this, but it felt town.

I really don't like his filter after that though. They're barely out posting me as a hydra, and their only hint of scumhunting is calling me out for lurking, defending XFs newbie to mtg post and a list that they don't say anyone is more than town to null in. Then to defend not looking at hydras when mathematically it is way more likely for a hydra is svummy as duck to me.
Stutters695
Profile Joined July 2012
2610 Posts
January 31 2013 03:56 GMT
#881
Any thoughts on what I said G?

Even post return hopeless hasn't taken a stance on anything. It's been over 50 hours and he's said almost nothing. I'd have to double check his metar but I don't remember hopeless bring so non committal
Stutters695
Profile Joined July 2012
2610 Posts
January 31 2013 04:22 GMT
#883
I actually agree with some of sucks points but on the null side rather than slightly scummy. If Nova doesn't know mtg well it's not entirely his fault, but it was definitely worth pointing out as some of the things he said were wrong. I need to check suck more in depth, but I'm leaning town on Nova currently. Although he argued some bad points his thinking behind why he thought they were good for town felt sincere. Suck would be my next in line after cross and RH but I don't know Marv that well and Cross feels scummy and hopeless not taking any stands is really bad. If I start to see one of them in a more town light, suck would be my next focus.
Stutters695
Profile Joined July 2012
2610 Posts
January 31 2013 06:44 GMT
#885
^ exactly what. Just with the quotes to back it up.
Stutters695
Profile Joined July 2012
2610 Posts
January 31 2013 06:54 GMT
#888
On January 31 2013 15:48 RockHydra wrote:
Good morning all
I guess I was afraid of this. I don't have any good reads on anyone, "so that means we're scum".
It's BS of course. The game is only 1 day long, there isn't much to go on yet.
It's not my style to accuse people based on trivialities.

/zebezt

so what about your partner? you have no reads and your partner who.was much more aggressive in previous games has nothing?


anyway goodnight. I'll post between class tomorrow.
Stutters695
Profile Joined July 2012
2610 Posts
January 31 2013 15:37 GMT
#937
On January 31 2013 17:43 (DontFear)ThePoster wrote:
Hmm, I guess he could have kept it as scum (just in case, for later), and not discard it. But he'd have 1 less zombie I think.

Anyways, going to bed.
Prome, check the QT when you get back, I have something "Interesting" to tell you, hehehe

I'd really like some thoughts on Cross's behaviour, both at the end of the main phase (casting something right at the last minute), and after (going apeshit against me, then cooling down and apologizing).

/G

I think I saw someone ask my thoughts on Cross in general so I'll talk about that and what you're asking.

As someone who didn't play MtG Mini I, I felt similar to X in wanting a summary, however I didn't voice it (I figured if I said something really dumb, people would point it out). I don't find that nearly as scummy as a few others have because rereading an entire game is a daunting task, especially when you're not looking for something in particular. Lazy, yes. Scum, I'm not so sure.

The post about ThePosters plan is where I started getting suspicious. At first I wasnt too suspicious because if he doesn't understand MtG, he might have misunderstood the mechanics but at least he was scumhunting and found something suspicious. Until it got explained and we're back to zero contribution towards finding scummers.

Going to skip his defending himself since what he said makes sense, but it'd be what he would say if he was town or scum. What he says in regards to scumhunting in that post actually was a decent post that I agreed with a lot of. What really concerned me about it (I can definitely relate to the low amount of time to play) is that despite seeming convinced of COn's guilt he never attacks CH again or discusses anything with the town to prove his innocence/work with us, despite the higher emphasis on teamwork in this. When I am on a tight schedule, I have two focuses. If I have a read I'm confident about it is getting them lynched, if I don't it is doing whatever I can to work with the town to convince them off my innocence. X doesn't do either of these. Instead of discussing what to do with his mana. Because he's posted so little it's hard to quantify, but it appears he's in it for himself and is hiding something. The emotional part I'm not so sure of how scummy that is, but to not discuss anything in the thread into dropping his mana on two creatures worries me. I need to check his past games, but when I replaced into whose line he was calm and although he didn't post a lot, he gave reasons and was transparent with his actions. This feels incredibly different.
Stutters695
Profile Joined July 2012
2610 Posts
January 31 2013 15:44 GMT
#938
Also, without knowing his deck, although I do think he's scum, just playing a deathrite isn't scummy. If he is town he's getting damage on the table (through the melee) and possibly a mana if needed. If he starts dropping 2 damage or spending all his mana to heal then we deal with it, but in the meantime I think everyone taking two damage to confirm a scum is totally worth it.

Stutters695
Profile Joined July 2012
2610 Posts
January 31 2013 15:50 GMT
#939
Also, are there any objections to me dropping howling mine tomorrow? It won't work for us until d3, but if you guys have a town read on me (enough to ensure I won't die tomorrow) I can forgo a 1/1 tomorrow in exchange for it. Might have better options depending on what I top deck so this isn't 100%, but at current this is the best contribution I can do in terms of magic plays.
Stutters695
Profile Joined July 2012
2610 Posts
January 31 2013 19:17 GMT
#973
@G I have a busy schedule and this game moves at the most inopportune times for me usually since it seemsthe majority of players are EU or the NA ones are lurky as shit. Consequently when I finally do get back to the thread I usually have had like ten pages to catch up on and with the amount of hydras it is hard to keep track of, especially while at work.

It wasn't that I'm worried people aren't attacking me, it's that I'm worried people were using my early game as a way to "scumhunt" without actually doing anything to find scum except saying I don't post enough.

Like I said about minds aglow previously during d1 I think discussing plays and overarching town strats is good because the re is less to talk about. Especially in my position where I didn't have a lot of free time to compose a good case through filters.

I'm assuming you're talking about when I asked if you thought Marv was town. I was asking that because that entire post was just fluff where you didn't say much of anything. I wanted to hear how you were leaving instead of justI'm not sure.

Did that answer what you wanted?
Stutters695
Profile Joined July 2012
2610 Posts
January 31 2013 19:28 GMT
#980
I believe it's 6pm est. not 100% sure though.
Stutters695
Profile Joined July 2012
2610 Posts
January 31 2013 19:33 GMT
#988
I think one of these guys might not know their alignment, they can't agree on anything.

On February 01 2013 03:59 RockHydra wrote:
Hey all.
I'm around again.
I must say this is a pretty active group.
I'm gonna be making a case on xfire now... although most things have kinda been said on that, but maybe I'll find something new.
I'll get back with that in a sec.
Then hopefully I also have time to read up on all the stuff going on with SuckMyTopdeck

/zebezt


So you disagree with Hopeless read that XF shouldn't be attacked I take it. Do you have any thoughts on anyone other than the person who is believed to be scum by most the thread?
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