EPTParallel World Mafia: Chaos of GreY - Page 31
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Foolishness
United States3044 Posts
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Dienosore
Brunei Darussalam622 Posts
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slOosh
3291 Posts
How long till your ability charges? I think we should send austinmcc. That way scum is forced to either confirm three townies or let us get another potentially strong blue power. ##Vote (GreY): austinmcc | ||
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austinmcc
United States6737 Posts
It's worth bringing up Sandro's reads because we're not in a game with a single strong townie. The strong townie N1 kill argument just isn't as strong here because there are a number to choose from. However, I think there are two considerations: (1) Sandroba had not revealed his power, so scum may not be afraid of say, Palmar's power (2) Sandroba was in today's lynch-world. Gives mafia more control over the lynch to kill a townie on your side than on ours I don't think we can assume Sandro was killed 100% because of reads, but it's A reason to kill him, among others. | ||
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marvellosity
United Kingdom36161 Posts
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marvellosity
United Kingdom36161 Posts
if not, i'll try to make some time for filtering later | ||
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Foolishness
United States3044 Posts
This is a heavy post about what's been going on this game. It's compiling the thoughts of a few people who are making sense (unnamed cause it should be obvious) while combining in everything I've noticed since the start. The best information the town has is from the start of the game "each world will begin with 2 mafia". So far people have not taken this into high consideration and have been too narrowly focused, taking it one step at a time. The bigger picture is what needs to be analyzed. That is, you as a town should be asking yourself this question: pick 2 mafia from each of these lists: Clarity_nl Crossfire99 Dienosore Foolishness Keirathi Marvellosity Palmar randombum SlOosh austinmcc Blazinghand Clarity_nl Darkfirex5 Hassybaby Mementoss Risen Yamato77 For now I am going to assume Clarity to be innocent cause he's in both worlds. Until we know the details of his role we can't be sure, but pretty safe assumption (has he done anything suspicious anyways? Probably not). According to austin's check, Palmar, Crossfire99, and Sloosh are not anti-town. I believe austin to be the most confirmed innocent right now as he has been the most active in explaining his thoughts and trying to accomplish something for the town. He has no hidden agenda, and has been clear and concise with his posting. Even so, I am not sure how reasonable it is to assume these 3 are not mafia. I do trust what austin told us about his role and his result, but the wording of the statement seems sketchy in my eyes. I might be over-thinking it but it seems to easy to just confirm these 3 off the bat (though I do agree this is a good starting point for now). So pick two mafia from: myself, randombum, marvellosity, Keirathi, dienosore. I will tell you right off the bat that randombum is mafia. The other one I can't decide, but my initial guess is marvellosity. Keirathi and Dienosore have a bit of ambiguity in their thoughts, but on the whole I do not see them as overtly suspicious. randombum? Yes, definitely mafia. Why? General avoidance to any topic of discussion. He simply has not said anything about anything the town is talking about. I give him credit for commenting about sandroba's plan, but that's it. His posts are simply empty. He hasn't given any reads (he admitted to this in his recent big post) with the justification that nobody else has. Remember mafia love to comment about how bad the town is doing (I'm guilty of doing it, look at bureaucracy) instead of actively trying to fix it. randombum never talked about myself or marvellosity when the two of us were having a larger penis contest. He was around during lynch time but never said much of anything. His lynch was avoided because one or two people said they thought he was innocent (I believe austin and clarity were the two, could be wrong though). Given that he was one of 4 choices to be lynched he was awfully quiet. And what mafia wouldn't be? If two outspoken players called you innocent you would take that and run with it as long as you could. He random voted for Palmar day 1 without any justification (read his filter if you don't believe me), hopped on the Kenpachi bandwagon, and hasn't said anything since. I can't decide on the remaining mafia in the group but I'm going to call out marvellosity on some horrible anti-town play in the past 48 hours. When Austin took control in attempt to get a lynch going you were the person that hard went against him and questioned everything. It should be apparent from Austin's filter that he's either a town trying to do something or he's mafia with some master grand scheme using his role to confirm his mafia buddy as he watches the town crumble (the latter is very unlikely). marvellosity was actively questioning all of Austin's moves and everything he did, and it just seemed like marvellosity did not want the town to get organized. What marvellosity did is very very reminiscent of Ace and wherebugsgo when they are mafia; they actively shut down obvious townies by questioning and throwing doubt into their actions. There's also the issue that marvellosity hasn't really been active with any reads other than calling me scum (and he's obviously wrong). Palmar still hasn't done anything constructive, and he's running out of time. When I read his filter I see boredom more than hesitation or fear. ------------ Onto the second list. Again Austin is the only true town player here and I'm assuming clarity is innocent for now. That leaves us 2 mafia from: Blazinghand Darkfirex5 Hassybaby Mementoss Risen Yamato77 As stated earlier, the majority of the analysis can be found from two things. The first is who is actively not commenting on important topics. The second is who is throwing doubt around and pushing mafia agenda. Randombum is ignoring topics and not saying anything. Marvellosity is pushing mafia agenda's. From this list we have Risen ignoring topics (and just being inactive overall) and Yamato77 doing a marvellosity and throwing doubt around the town. Risen has been here, but not really been here. I just finished rereading the thread and I could not remember a single post he made (needless to say I was surprised he has 25 posts already). He's kinda said who he thinks is mafia, but he doesn't provide much justification for his reads. He also pushed mafia agenda when he started questioning sandroba's actions. Not that sandroba was confirmed, but he was actively trying to help the town and get people talking, and anyone who tries to stop that is not pro-town. Yamato. When I decided to vote for him on the grounds of him being expendable, I was not sure at the time if he was mafia or not. As stated, I couldn't read his filter cause it was so abrasive. After rereading everything I'm more inclined to say that he's mafia. He's guilty of exactly the same things marvellosity is doing. Yamato questions everyone that is doing something for the town. He constantly argued with sandroba and austin day 1; and it was incredibly unproductive for the town and in the end nothing got accomplished. He's back and forth on his reads a lot, and seems to always accuse those who are accusing him. I give him credit for trying to push Risen recently though. What of the other people? During lynch time yesterday, there were 5 people actively engaged in lynch discussion: sandroba, Blazinghand, Yamato, Keirathi, and Clarity. Mementoss occasionally posted, Hassybaby popped in from time to time to share a thought or two, Darkfire is suspiciously absent. Blazinghand is not mafia (he's been here during key hours, he's actively engaged in pro-town discussion). Mementoss does not strike me as mafia from his filter, though he needs to step up the activity a bit (lots of his posts are filler). Hassybaby is the textbook scared blue role, I assume he knows something about his role in the other world otherwise he wouldn't try so hard to get to it. Darkfire I don't know what to say, too difficult to tell if he's legit or not at this point (his one long post is very questionable though). tl;dr THE GRAND MAFIA LIST: Batch 1 1. randombum 2. Probably marvellosity, maybe Palmar, else pick your favorite from the rest. Batch 2 1. Risen 2. Yamato Remaining likely's: Darkfire, maybe Mementoss. IF YOU ARE A COMPETENT TOWN PLAYER PLEASE GO BACK AND REREAD THIS POST BEFORE IT'S TOO LATE. If you are mafia then try hopelessly to spam this away, and I hope you have 2KP to kill me tonight. | ||
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marvellosity
United Kingdom36161 Posts
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austinmcc
United States6737 Posts
we did have a shot claimed in addition to the mafia KP though, didn't result in a kill. | ||
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Clarity_nl
Netherlands6826 Posts
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Foolishness
United States3044 Posts
On December 16 2012 07:02 marvellosity wrote: you coloured Palmar in red, but austin's power confirmed him according to how you view things. I guess I haven't decided whether I want to just say "those 3 confirmed town" or not. For now I'm inclined to just wait and see about those three. Any anyways, we got a handful of better targets to worry about first. | ||
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marvellosity
United Kingdom36161 Posts
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Clarity_nl
Netherlands6826 Posts
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marvellosity
United Kingdom36161 Posts
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marvellosity
United Kingdom36161 Posts
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Clarity_nl
Netherlands6826 Posts
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marvellosity
United Kingdom36161 Posts
Palmar seems uninterested but he's not *pretending* to be interested. | ||
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marvellosity
United Kingdom36161 Posts
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marvellosity
United Kingdom36161 Posts
I have just had his filter open right now, though. I'm kinda ok with the sandroba suspicion-pushing thing, because that's the kinda thing Risen would probably do as either alignment. I don't like how he's (not) pushing mementoss, though. | ||
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marvellosity
United Kingdom36161 Posts
yeah ok I could see risen hang. | ||
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