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Orangeremi
Profile Joined July 2011
United States94 Posts
December 27 2012 17:06 GMT
#1139
Well we've just fucked ourselves by not finding any scum thus far and at this point we don't have many options. We cannot afford another townie loss. We need to be certain or very close to certain that our next vote is mafia.
Orangeremi
Profile Joined July 2011
United States94 Posts
December 27 2012 17:27 GMT
#1142
The other three includes me, so that narrows it down to the other two.

I don't feel strongly towards shz, and didn't even think him a possibility until I was asked to play devil's advocate for him.

I don't understand Kickstart's play either, it doesn't emulate being a townie, really. But neither does it scum.

FC seems to be benefiting from not being pressure most. He has really not contributed much on the voting front, just hopping on the Omni bandwagon and also voting threesr D1. Scummy?
Orangeremi
Profile Joined July 2011
United States94 Posts
December 27 2012 18:27 GMT
#1144
I understand everybody hopped on that bandwagon, I was just point out that he did too, and that's all he did.
Orangeremi
Profile Joined July 2011
United States94 Posts
December 27 2012 20:08 GMT
#1148
Now a voting trend like this is going to give us a lot more information when the lynch turns and we see who voted (and didn't vote) for it. So much better than us having ganged up on a single player both days before.
Please, those of us who have not voted, VOTE! And do it for the player you think will benefit us most. It is crucial. We need to be productive today or else this game is over.
Orangeremi
Profile Joined July 2011
United States94 Posts
December 27 2012 23:55 GMT
#1185
Since that train seems to be going somewhere and scum seems fine with us voting Kick.


##Vote: shz


Chrom, if shz turns town I'm looking at you. Hopping off of FC wagon when it seemed to gain momentum was something I was looking for.
Orangeremi
Profile Joined July 2011
United States94 Posts
December 27 2012 23:56 GMT
#1186
ebwop

##Unvote
##Vote: Shz
Orangeremi
Profile Joined July 2011
United States94 Posts
December 28 2012 00:07 GMT
#1201
On December 08 2012 22:23 Promethelax wrote:
Claudius Ptolemy (Framer)


Orangeremi
Profile Joined July 2011
United States94 Posts
December 28 2012 00:13 GMT
#1208
Where would you like me to start?
Orangeremi
Profile Joined July 2011
United States94 Posts
December 28 2012 00:28 GMT
#1213
On December 28 2012 09:19 Aquanim wrote:
Well... what made you so convinced Shz was scum?
If you were confident enough to last-minute switch (without giving anyone time to think about it) why didn't you push for his lynch earlier?
Why did you think Shz was scummier than Kick?
Look, trying to push a lynch away from scum at the last minute is just up-and-up scummy. Explain your reasoning. In detail.

I wasn't convinced Shz was scum. My reasoning is based on Kick not being scum. His lynch was clear and nobody tried to intervene and take votes off of him. Why not? If he was scum, his scumbuddies would be trying to vote someone else. But that wasn't happening. Since it wasn't happening, I was convinced he was town.

Which begs the question, why wasn't it happening?

Chrom switched just as I did, I'd want to know why he didn't push it earlier either.

I wanted to push for whichever vote had the better chance of winning that wasn't Kick, since I was under the impression that Kick wasn't scum.

Orangeremi
Profile Joined July 2011
United States94 Posts
December 28 2012 00:48 GMT
#1217
I wasn't trying to get anyone in specific lynched because all that was in my head at the time was "Kick is not scum" and my intention with voting for FC was an attempt to view player's reactions (voting wise). I wasn't trying to push the FC wagon, but I was trying to push people to vote for someone also in attempt to get a read off of how they decided to do it. If FC was scum, it seems kind of stupid to take his vote from Kick and put it on a player he knew would flip town (are we convinced shz would flip town?) seeing as it would gain suspicion. If he was scum, I don't know why his vote was on Kick in the first place.
Orangeremi
Profile Joined July 2011
United States94 Posts
December 28 2012 00:48 GMT
#1218
On December 28 2012 09:45 Sylencia wrote:
Having a framer in play suggests there's a Cop in play, right?

That would only make sense
Orangeremi
Profile Joined July 2011
United States94 Posts
December 28 2012 01:01 GMT
#1224
I want to hear from everyone who didn't vote Kick, that's an obvious place to start.

I'm under the impression some scum voted for Kick to go under the radar. Probably the player who voted for him with the least conviction?

I'm really very curious with Chrom's switch at the end (before mine) too.

We have a night to go through, and the options to lynch will shrink. It might be simpler to decide then.
Orangeremi
Profile Joined July 2011
United States94 Posts
December 28 2012 02:02 GMT
#1228
On December 28 2012 10:55 cDgCorazon wrote:
Another point we should think about.

Was kick bussing Shz, or was he trying to get himself not lynched?

I dont understand. could you possibly explain?
Orangeremi
Profile Joined July 2011
United States94 Posts
December 28 2012 02:15 GMT
#1230
I can't see option #1 being likely. Kick has been after shz the whole game. Why would he if they were scum team?
Orangeremi
Profile Joined July 2011
United States94 Posts
December 28 2012 02:27 GMT
#1234
There isn't one
Orangeremi
Profile Joined July 2011
United States94 Posts
December 28 2012 02:37 GMT
#1236
I'd also consider that you tried to get him lynched as well. Chrom/FC or Chrom/Orange could fit just as well.
Orangeremi
Profile Joined July 2011
United States94 Posts
December 28 2012 02:44 GMT
#1238
I'm not that stupid. I don't think any of the combinations are correct, but FC is most likely. But his partner ?
Orangeremi
Profile Joined July 2011
United States94 Posts
December 28 2012 13:20 GMT
#1266
On December 28 2012 12:12 cakepie wrote:
@orange: Assume not all scum is stupidly trying to swing onto shz. Who is scum initiating/moving with Kickstart onto shz: chrom, FC, or neither? And where in the Kick wagon is the remaining scum hiding?

If both FC and chrom are misguided townies, what was Kickstart up to? How has he managed to misdirect both FC and yourself onto chrom's case? And who among the Kick wagon would you finger as the two likely scum, looking to gain town cred off of Kickstart's 'sacrifice' play?


1) I'm leaning towards neither, unless it's just bad scum play. If I had to choose, it'd be FC since he hopped on last and could use that fact as an excuse.

2) I wouldn't say I'm on chrom's case. I am suspicious because of that move, but his motives seem sound. I don't understand what Kickstart was doing AT ALL. The only thing I can think is that the rest of the mafia planned this lynch to avoid their own suspicion.

The wagoners? I don't know, Syl and Aqua seemed to hop on that train with little initiative and rode it undercover. With what they've contributed, I'm surprised they haven't been nk'd yet.

I still want to wait to see who gets killed tonight. I'm really curious who they'll pick.
Orangeremi
Profile Joined July 2011
United States94 Posts
December 28 2012 14:17 GMT
#1268
Why haven't they been night killed yet? I'm trying to figure it out. I suppose mocsta and yamato weren't bad nightkills, but I think these players (maybe aqua more than syl) should be up there. If they aren't nk'd tonight I'm going to think

1) The mafia doesn't see these guys as a threat. They're on the wrong track or have some other misdirection

2) They are the mafia

I'm using they as a term for either one of them here, please excuse me.
Orangeremi
Profile Joined July 2011
United States94 Posts
December 28 2012 14:17 GMT
#1269
ebwop:
this is why I want to see what happens at the end of this Night
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