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Mr. Cheesecake
Profile Joined October 2012
United States3756 Posts
December 22 2012 17:32 GMT
#2354
On December 23 2012 02:31 JieXian wrote:
Show nested quote +
On December 22 2012 23:23 kushm4sta wrote:
On December 22 2012 22:14 Eywa- wrote:
On December 22 2012 14:36 Mr. Cheesecake wrote:
On December 22 2012 14:35 kushm4sta wrote:
@cheesecake:
djo/cheesecake
djo/hapa
and that is discounting the possibility of a bus


If it's me and djo, and eywa flips town. you can just lynch me and him the next two days and win.

Hapa is town, unless you don't want to count that DT check.

Unless Hapa/Ghost Scum team.

mr z got a green check on ghost. So I think this is impossible.


??? if mrz got a green check how does hapa's check say anything about his alignment


Hapa got the green check, not Z
But CC isn't protown as town. 100% real heuristic.
Mr. Cheesecake
Profile Joined October 2012
United States3756 Posts
December 22 2012 17:38 GMT
#2356
On December 23 2012 02:38 JieXian wrote:
whaaat? kush said that mr z got a green check on ghost.

I remember kush had a green on dyh, and hapa had a green on ghost,
you telling me mrz got a green check on hapa? can't find it anywhere at all


Mr.Z never had a green check on anyone.... Hapa had powers and green checked Ghost.
But CC isn't protown as town. 100% real heuristic.
Mr. Cheesecake
Profile Joined October 2012
United States3756 Posts
December 22 2012 17:41 GMT
#2358
On December 23 2012 02:40 JieXian wrote:
why did kush's check have no effect on his townie status? I see no difference between his check and hapa's check.


Rephrase. Me no understand.
But CC isn't protown as town. 100% real heuristic.
Mr. Cheesecake
Profile Joined October 2012
United States3756 Posts
December 22 2012 17:45 GMT
#2362
On December 23 2012 02:43 JieXian wrote:
Show nested quote +
On December 23 2012 02:38 Mr. Cheesecake wrote:
On December 23 2012 02:38 JieXian wrote:
whaaat? kush said that mr z got a green check on ghost.

I remember kush had a green on dyh, and hapa had a green on ghost,
you telling me mrz got a green check on hapa? can't find it anywhere at all


Mr.Z never had a green check on anyone.... Hapa had powers and green checked Ghost.


I thought so. Kush was saying mrz had a green check on ghost

Show nested quote +
On December 22 2012 23:23 kushm4sta wrote:
On December 22 2012 22:14 Eywa- wrote:
On December 22 2012 14:36 Mr. Cheesecake wrote:
On December 22 2012 14:35 kushm4sta wrote:
@cheesecake:
djo/cheesecake
djo/hapa
and that is discounting the possibility of a bus


If it's me and djo, and eywa flips town. you can just lynch me and him the next two days and win.

Hapa is town, unless you don't want to count that DT check.

Unless Hapa/Ghost Scum team.

mr z got a green check on ghost. So I think this is impossible.


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On December 23 2012 02:32 Mr. Cheesecake wrote:
On December 23 2012 02:32 JieXian wrote:
On December 23 2012 02:26 Mr. Cheesecake wrote:
The thing is, scum don't want to give any information away when they get lynched. A logical proposal is that he just didn't want to give anybody and headway into the next lynch.


what about plain defending himself? Doesn't make sense not to defend yourself at all


Then it's a null tell?


No. the fact that he didn't give a damn about getting lynched points to the fact that he was prepared to be lynched. He knows he has to be lynched


Well Kush mispoke I guess there.

Or he just didn't want to give away any information... That's what scum want to do. Drazak (ghost) didn't vote for him either, and it was a very close lynch. I doubt Hapa started the lynch wagon.
But CC isn't protown as town. 100% real heuristic.
Mr. Cheesecake
Profile Joined October 2012
United States3756 Posts
December 22 2012 17:46 GMT
#2363
On December 23 2012 02:44 JieXian wrote:
Show nested quote +
On December 23 2012 02:41 Mr. Cheesecake wrote:
On December 23 2012 02:40 JieXian wrote:
why did kush's check have no effect on his townie status? I see no difference between his check and hapa's check.


Rephrase. Me no understand.


Kush had a green check on DYH = people are saying he's scumish

hapa had a green check on ghost = OMG CONFIRMED TOWNIE GAIS


Kush's check only had a 66% chance of being right.

A check now is confirmed green.
But CC isn't protown as town. 100% real heuristic.
Mr. Cheesecake
Profile Joined October 2012
United States3756 Posts
December 22 2012 17:50 GMT
#2365
Because Kush used it in a scummy way. The check could have easily been an attempt to save his scumbuddy. It was really convenient. He showed up last minute and was like "omg check on DYH, lynch this JX guy instead"

Hapa shows no signs of scummy intention imo. And he's just looking plain townie.
But CC isn't protown as town. 100% real heuristic.
Mr. Cheesecake
Profile Joined October 2012
United States3756 Posts
December 22 2012 17:56 GMT
#2368
Exactly, which is why Kush has a chance to flip scum right now.
But CC isn't protown as town. 100% real heuristic.
Mr. Cheesecake
Profile Joined October 2012
United States3756 Posts
December 22 2012 18:03 GMT
#2369
ahmigawd

Seriously, why are we lynching Djo right now? Who makes sense as his scumbuddy?

Ghost/hapa we are basically confirming town.
kush tunneled him djo tunneled kush so no.
JX was tunneled by djo so hard since D1, no way
Eywa could happen, very unlikely.
I could happen.

At least I know I'm town.

I don't see Djo paired up with anybody else but me lol.
But CC isn't protown as town. 100% real heuristic.
Mr. Cheesecake
Profile Joined October 2012
United States3756 Posts
December 22 2012 18:22 GMT
#2371
Voting for scum reluctantly is not more "scum-motivated" than voting your top town read and completely ignoring the possibility of a DYH scum flip.

If DYH was a planned bus -- wouldn't Djo be all over that shit? Like OMFG DYH OBV SCUM!

But CC isn't protown as town. 100% real heuristic.
Mr. Cheesecake
Profile Joined October 2012
United States3756 Posts
December 22 2012 18:27 GMT
#2373
On December 23 2012 03:26 JieXian wrote:
Show nested quote +
On December 23 2012 03:22 Mr. Cheesecake wrote:
Voting for scum reluctantly is not more "scum-motivated" than voting your top town read and completely ignoring the possibility of a DYH scum flip.

If DYH was a planned bus -- wouldn't Djo be all over that shit? Like OMFG DYH OBV SCUM!



What??? you were just saying that it wasn't a bus and DYH was just "not giving out information"


IF he was a planned bus. IF. I don't think he was. You seem to think he is. Djo's reaction if it's a planned bus makes NO SENSE!
But CC isn't protown as town. 100% real heuristic.
Mr. Cheesecake
Profile Joined October 2012
United States3756 Posts
December 22 2012 18:40 GMT
#2376
On December 23 2012 03:37 Eywa- wrote:
##unvote
##vote Djodref


If this isn't clue enough to lynch Eywa, I don't know what is.

His posture early game was hyper aggressive and face-smashing into people. Now he's just too timid and sheepy because he knows that I've got him pinned and he's guilty.

Scum want to push this Djo lynch right now.
But CC isn't protown as town. 100% real heuristic.
Mr. Cheesecake
Profile Joined October 2012
United States3756 Posts
December 22 2012 18:42 GMT
#2377
On December 23 2012 03:40 JieXian wrote:
wth You can't use that argument. Firstly you don't seem to think that it was a planned bus at all. Secondly, he's been protecting DYH the entire game

if Djo were scum, he just throwing out a weak case on DYH when I asked him for it


Show nested quote +
On December 20 2012 03:00 Djodref wrote:
@ JieXan

Here is the summary of the points against DYH. I would like to remind you that the cases against Kush are far better
Especially mines ^^
Anyway...
  • unemotional and not involved in this game
  • "clean" play, generally blending in
  • generally lurking
  • Disputable case on MrZ, which could be a way for him to avoid to contribute for real


@ Eywa

Could you do the same thing for CC ? It took me like 5 minutes



Because it's not a planned bus, omfg. I just said YOU think it was a planned bus. A planned bus from Djo makes no sense cus he would just be like "omfgscumscumrightherewtffff"

He's summarizing the points against DYH, so what? He thinks his Kush lynch is better. A planned bus wouldn't even consider a Kush lynch and just be like rofl he's scum what do. Scum Djo has no reason to push a Kush lynch, it's an impossibility.
But CC isn't protown as town. 100% real heuristic.
Mr. Cheesecake
Profile Joined October 2012
United States3756 Posts
December 22 2012 18:45 GMT
#2378
You're also forgetting that Kush didn't want to lynch DYH just as badly. He even said the Mr. Z case had plenty of merit. Kush actively sought to prevent the lynch.

Whether or not his "green check" was the notion behind that is debatable.
But CC isn't protown as town. 100% real heuristic.
Mr. Cheesecake
Profile Joined October 2012
United States3756 Posts
December 22 2012 18:52 GMT
#2382
On December 23 2012 03:48 JieXian wrote:
Ok, I can agree with you that if djo was scum it doesn't appear to be a planned bus (unless he's using some really advanced play)

My point was that you can't use that argument to convince me that djo isn't scum if you are trying to convince me that it was NOT a planned bus at the same time lol

Tell me once and for all, was it a planned bus or not?


It's not a planned bus.

Kush looks way guilty because of this. Comes in the last minute and tries to derail the lynch with his green check antics. If he really had a green check, he would have given us MORE TIME to coordinate another lynch.

Either that, or you're the last scum.

Eywa / kush scumteam or Eywa / JX. Only shit that makes sense.

Still waiting for somebody to tell me who Djo's scumbuddy is. WHO? NOBODY MAKES SENSE BUT ME. And I know I'm town.
But CC isn't protown as town. 100% real heuristic.
Mr. Cheesecake
Profile Joined October 2012
United States3756 Posts
December 22 2012 18:54 GMT
#2384
If hapa is scum, this game is already lost.
But CC isn't protown as town. 100% real heuristic.
Mr. Cheesecake
Profile Joined October 2012
United States3756 Posts
December 22 2012 18:55 GMT
#2385
On December 23 2012 03:53 Eywa- wrote:
Show nested quote +
On December 23 2012 03:52 Mr. Cheesecake wrote:
On December 23 2012 03:48 JieXian wrote:
Ok, I can agree with you that if djo was scum it doesn't appear to be a planned bus (unless he's using some really advanced play)

My point was that you can't use that argument to convince me that djo isn't scum if you are trying to convince me that it was NOT a planned bus at the same time lol

Tell me once and for all, was it a planned bus or not?


It's not a planned bus.

Kush looks way guilty because of this. Comes in the last minute and tries to derail the lynch with his green check antics. If he really had a green check, he would have given us MORE TIME to coordinate another lynch.

Either that, or you're the last scum.

Eywa / kush scumteam or Eywa / JX. Only shit that makes sense.

Still waiting for somebody to tell me who Djo's scumbuddy is. WHO? NOBODY MAKES SENSE BUT ME. And I know I'm town.

It's not a planned bus, but one of the guys who bussed him looks scum? Are you reading before pressing down on "post"?


There's a difference between PLANNED BUS and BUS. Planned bus makes the scum who bussed look really friggen good. Are you thinking before you post, scum?
But CC isn't protown as town. 100% real heuristic.
Mr. Cheesecake
Profile Joined October 2012
United States3756 Posts
December 22 2012 18:57 GMT
#2387
On December 23 2012 03:55 Eywa- wrote:
Show nested quote +
On December 23 2012 03:54 Mr. Cheesecake wrote:
If hapa is scum, this game is already lost.

How does that even remotely make sense? You talk as though you will lose any voting sense because your leader can't tell who what's what anymore...

If anything, your post makes me think CC/Hapa scumteam.


No. People have pinned Hapa as town. If we lynch Djo and he flips town, we're going for you next not him guaranteed.

Lol @ hapacc scumteam.
But CC isn't protown as town. 100% real heuristic.
Mr. Cheesecake
Profile Joined October 2012
United States3756 Posts
December 22 2012 18:59 GMT
#2392
On December 23 2012 03:57 Eywa- wrote:
Show nested quote +
On December 23 2012 03:55 Mr. Cheesecake wrote:
On December 23 2012 03:53 Eywa- wrote:
On December 23 2012 03:52 Mr. Cheesecake wrote:
On December 23 2012 03:48 JieXian wrote:
Ok, I can agree with you that if djo was scum it doesn't appear to be a planned bus (unless he's using some really advanced play)

My point was that you can't use that argument to convince me that djo isn't scum if you are trying to convince me that it was NOT a planned bus at the same time lol

Tell me once and for all, was it a planned bus or not?


It's not a planned bus.

Kush looks way guilty because of this. Comes in the last minute and tries to derail the lynch with his green check antics. If he really had a green check, he would have given us MORE TIME to coordinate another lynch.

Either that, or you're the last scum.

Eywa / kush scumteam or Eywa / JX. Only shit that makes sense.

Still waiting for somebody to tell me who Djo's scumbuddy is. WHO? NOBODY MAKES SENSE BUT ME. And I know I'm town.

It's not a planned bus, but one of the guys who bussed him looks scum? Are you reading before pressing down on "post"?


There's a difference between PLANNED BUS and BUS. Planned bus makes the scum who bussed look really friggen good. Are you thinking before you post, scum?

I am pretty sure that you've got that wrong... if Kush were scum, he'd have mislynched before joining the stack who were bussing DYH... It's only logical because then, you only need 1 more mislynch, which given probabilities, there's a very low chance of town victory.


And what did he do? Try to lynch JX and derail the DYH lynch itself. He wanted a mislynch if scum.
But CC isn't protown as town. 100% real heuristic.
Mr. Cheesecake
Profile Joined October 2012
United States3756 Posts
December 22 2012 19:00 GMT
#2393
On December 23 2012 03:59 Eywa- wrote:
Show nested quote +
On December 23 2012 03:57 Mr. Cheesecake wrote:
On December 23 2012 03:55 Eywa- wrote:
On December 23 2012 03:54 Mr. Cheesecake wrote:
If hapa is scum, this game is already lost.

How does that even remotely make sense? You talk as though you will lose any voting sense because your leader can't tell who what's what anymore...

If anything, your post makes me think CC/Hapa scumteam.


No. People have pinned Hapa as town. If we lynch Djo and he flips town, we're going for you next not him guaranteed.

Lol @ hapacc scumteam.

It's funny that you give out a ton of opinions, yet never act on any of them... You throw shit around and then vote whatever hapahauli votes. You have no backbone to make a decision, another reason you look scum.


Shut up, you scum. The only reason I sheeped Hapa D2 was because I was completely busy D1 through most of D2. I have time now. Hapa is sheeping me this day, not the other way around. You aren't doing shit this game either, you're just voting Djo because it's the popular lynch.
But CC isn't protown as town. 100% real heuristic.
Mr. Cheesecake
Profile Joined October 2012
United States3756 Posts
December 22 2012 19:02 GMT
#2396
On December 23 2012 04:01 Eywa- wrote:
Show nested quote +
On December 23 2012 03:59 Mr. Cheesecake wrote:
On December 23 2012 03:57 Eywa- wrote:
On December 23 2012 03:55 Mr. Cheesecake wrote:
On December 23 2012 03:53 Eywa- wrote:
On December 23 2012 03:52 Mr. Cheesecake wrote:
On December 23 2012 03:48 JieXian wrote:
Ok, I can agree with you that if djo was scum it doesn't appear to be a planned bus (unless he's using some really advanced play)

My point was that you can't use that argument to convince me that djo isn't scum if you are trying to convince me that it was NOT a planned bus at the same time lol

Tell me once and for all, was it a planned bus or not?


It's not a planned bus.

Kush looks way guilty because of this. Comes in the last minute and tries to derail the lynch with his green check antics. If he really had a green check, he would have given us MORE TIME to coordinate another lynch.

Either that, or you're the last scum.

Eywa / kush scumteam or Eywa / JX. Only shit that makes sense.

Still waiting for somebody to tell me who Djo's scumbuddy is. WHO? NOBODY MAKES SENSE BUT ME. And I know I'm town.

It's not a planned bus, but one of the guys who bussed him looks scum? Are you reading before pressing down on "post"?


There's a difference between PLANNED BUS and BUS. Planned bus makes the scum who bussed look really friggen good. Are you thinking before you post, scum?

I am pretty sure that you've got that wrong... if Kush were scum, he'd have mislynched before joining the stack who were bussing DYH... It's only logical because then, you only need 1 more mislynch, which given probabilities, there's a very low chance of town victory.


And what did he do? Try to lynch JX and derail the DYH lynch itself. He wanted a mislynch if scum.

I'm sorry, I'm talking about the simple act on putting his vote on DYH rather than for a no-lynch (sorry, I used the wrong term)...


No-lynch is anti-town beyond all belief. He would look scummy as shit doing that. In that situation him + dyh look scummy as fk. dyh dead + town-seeming kush is better. But I still think it's you + JX scumteam most likely at this point. Offchance of Kush as well. This Djo lynch makes no seeeeeeeense
But CC isn't protown as town. 100% real heuristic.
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