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JieXian
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December 26 2012 19:33 GMT
#2920
I'd like to see you do it and prove me wrong if you're townie

What do you expect to gain after djo's confirmation?
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JieXian
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December 26 2012 19:35 GMT
#2921
though I don't see that being something possible.
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JieXian
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Malaysia4677 Posts
December 26 2012 19:45 GMT
#2922
Guys, think about it the outcome of the elections again, if hapa really is townie, and MrCC wins:

1) DJO and MrCC gets confirmed townie.

2) Since Kush couldn't possibly be RBed from performing the NK, he'd be confirmed townie since hapa must have saved kush from the NK

3) We are left with Ghost and Me, and since Ghost supposedly got the green DT check from Hapa, we're left with one unconfirmed townie = me

ie If Hapa is townie, his election plan will lead to a conclusion that only 1 scum is left
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JieXian
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December 26 2012 19:59 GMT
#2927
because I follow the logic. Based on today's happenings, I was wrong about djo
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December 26 2012 20:00 GMT
#2928
btw towards the end of d2 my vote was on hapa
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December 26 2012 20:00 GMT
#2929
i mean d3
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JieXian
Profile Blog Joined August 2008
Malaysia4677 Posts
December 26 2012 20:02 GMT
#2930
On December 27 2012 04:51 Hapahauli wrote:
Show nested quote +
I'd like to see you do it and prove me wrong if you're townie


Nah. I really don't have any shot at changing your mind so I don't feel like it. If Djo is confirmed as scum, I'll answer for this (but keep in mind that my "scum-strategy" this game would have been to "bus" two of my "teammates"). . If he flips town, I'm lynching you next.

Show nested quote +
What do you expect to gain after djo's confirmation?


Is this a serious question? "What do I expect to gain from mod-confirming a player's alignment?"



I wanted to hear it from you but I got it


On December 27 2012 04:52 Hapahauli wrote:
Show nested quote +
On December 27 2012 04:45 JieXian wrote:
Guys, think about it the outcome of the elections again, if hapa really is townie, and MrCC wins:

1) DJO and MrCC gets confirmed townie.

2) Since Kush couldn't possibly be RBed from performing the NK, he'd be confirmed townie since hapa must have saved kush from the NK

3) We are left with Ghost and Me, and since Ghost supposedly got the green DT check from Hapa, we're left with one unconfirmed townie = me

ie If Hapa is townie, his election plan will lead to a conclusion that only 1 scum is left


Oh that's wrong. Kush wouldn't be confirmed town. It would just mean that I blocked Kush from taking the mafia shot.


False, if it were a kush/jx team my shot would have went through
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JieXian
Profile Blog Joined August 2008
Malaysia4677 Posts
December 26 2012 20:03 GMT
#2932
if anyone wants to catch up please read these posts where I've gathered my thoughts well

http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/viewmessage.php?topic_id=386816&currentpage=146#2917
http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/viewmessage.php?topic_id=386816&currentpage=147#2922
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JieXian
Profile Blog Joined August 2008
Malaysia4677 Posts
December 26 2012 20:03 GMT
#2934
On December 27 2012 05:02 Hapahauli wrote:
I'm curious JX - what makes my gameplay here different from my town gameplay in Newbie XX?


it's littered with scum. I already broke down your plan
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JieXian
Profile Blog Joined August 2008
Malaysia4677 Posts
December 26 2012 20:06 GMT
#2936
On December 27 2012 05:03 Hapahauli wrote:
Show nested quote +
On December 27 2012 05:02 JieXian wrote:
...
On December 27 2012 04:52 Hapahauli wrote:
On December 27 2012 04:45 JieXian wrote:
Guys, think about it the outcome of the elections again, if hapa really is townie, and MrCC wins:

1) DJO and MrCC gets confirmed townie.

2) Since Kush couldn't possibly be RBed from performing the NK, he'd be confirmed townie since hapa must have saved kush from the NK

3) We are left with Ghost and Me, and since Ghost supposedly got the green DT check from Hapa, we're left with one unconfirmed townie = me

ie If Hapa is townie, his election plan will lead to a conclusion that only 1 scum is left


Oh that's wrong. Kush wouldn't be confirmed town. It would just mean that I blocked Kush from taking the mafia shot.


False, if it were a kush/jx team my shot would have went through


Uh... rofl?


from mafiascum:

In particular, when there is one Mafioso left Roleblockers can be used to confirm players - if the Mafia's kill goes through, whoever was blocked that Night isn't the last Mafioso. Inversely, if a Roleblocker blocks someone and the Mafia's kill disappears, there is a decent chance that the Roleblocker blocked the scum who was performing the kill (though this is not necessarily the case, given that other power roles may have had a hand in it).
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JieXian
Profile Blog Joined August 2008
Malaysia4677 Posts
December 26 2012 20:07 GMT
#2937
On December 27 2012 05:06 Mr. Cheesecake wrote:
So JX, you shot somebody? Good to know.


you're trying too hard. I said if. There are 2 mafia left. RBing a mafia won't stop the NK
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JieXian
Profile Blog Joined August 2008
Malaysia4677 Posts
December 26 2012 20:09 GMT
#2940
On December 27 2012 05:06 Mr. Cheesecake wrote:
So JX, you shot somebody? Good to know.


know your tenses

conditional [kənˈdɪʃənəl]
adj
1. depending on other factors; not certain
2. (Linguistics / Grammar) Grammar (of a clause, conjunction, form of a verb, or whole sentence) expressing a condition on which something else is contingent: ``If he comes'' is a conditional clause in the sentence ``If he comes I shall go''
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JieXian
Profile Blog Joined August 2008
Malaysia4677 Posts
December 26 2012 20:09 GMT
#2942
On December 27 2012 05:08 Hapahauli wrote:
Yes, if there's one mafia left. Not two.


Meaning there's 2 left so you couldn't possibly have RBed a mafia from the NK

good to know you are agreeing
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JieXian
Profile Blog Joined August 2008
Malaysia4677 Posts
December 26 2012 20:12 GMT
#2944
On December 27 2012 05:09 Mr. Cheesecake wrote:
Kush could take the NK... kush is roleblocked. What don't you understand about that?

Yes roleblocking stops the mafia NK If he is the one to take the shot.


this logic should work in Newbie mafia where people don't know the rules

from mafiascum:

In particular, when there is one Mafioso left Roleblockers can be used to confirm players - if the Mafia's kill goes through, whoever was blocked that Night isn't the last Mafioso. Inversely, if a Roleblocker blocks someone and the Mafia's kill disappears, there is a decent chance that the Roleblocker blocked the scum who was performing the kill (though this is not necessarily the case, given that other power roles may have had a hand in it).
[/QUOTE]

let's let Blazinghand settle it
when there are 2 mafia left RBing one of them won't stop the NK right?
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JieXian
Profile Blog Joined August 2008
Malaysia4677 Posts
December 26 2012 21:57 GMT
#2975
On December 27 2012 06:47 Blazinghand wrote:
RBing the mafia player who is delivering the NK will stop the NK.


ok fine, I'll admit my mistake on that, but my main point still stands, yes, a part of it that relies on RBing isn't true

On December 27 2012 03:52 JieXian wrote:


Hapa



1) N3 no kill and kush

Show nested quote +
On December 24 2012 06:59 Hapahauli wrote:
I won the witchcraft elections. I'm Jailkeeping Kush today for the following reasons:

A CC/Djo scumteam has four NK options
1) Kill ghost. Not a good idea, since that would confirm my green check on him.
2) Kill me. Not a good idea, since they're pushing me for a mislynch + it would confirm ghost as town.
3) Kill JieXian. Not a good idea, since JX is trying to lynch me.
4) Kill kush. Best idea, since kush believes Djo is scum.

If kush doesn't die, I either successfully roleblocked scum, or I blocked the NK of the scumteam. I'm convinced the latter is correct.

Alternatively I could gamble on a roleblock, but it's 50/50. I could DT check, but I have a high risk of getting roleblocked tonight by scum.


There are so many holes in his logic:

1) Excellent choice to kill a supposed confirmed townie. Hapa could be mafia fakeclaiming DT for townie cred, knowing ghost's alignment.
2) Hapa being shot would ONLY confirm ghost as town if and only if hapa flips green. Only me and mrcc were suspicious of hapa and mrcc never posted any cases. He only whined about crap like how hapa was betrayed his trust.
3) No one seems to be buying my case at all, djo and kush were against the idea, ghost didn't care, mrcc did nothing but whine.
4) only true if Djo actually is scum and there's a lot of WIFOM

if Kush doesn't die, Hapa either JKed kush or he chose not to NK anyone. Since there are 2 scum left hapa can't stop a death by RBing someone.

Hapa has lied about his justification on the N3 no kill



2) The election plan to decide kush's alignment

Get Djo to vote for Mrcc , hapa to vote for ghost

+ Show Spoiler +
On December 24 2012 15:49 Djodref wrote:
Voting Cheese doesn't pose my any problem. I'm quite happy with this vote ^^
It's done !



On December 24 2012 16:00 Hapahauli wrote:
Awesomesauce.

My vote has been officially casted for ghost_403.

So if CC wins the election, you are confirmed town Djo. If ghost wins, you are confirmed scum.

Show nested quote +
On December 24 2012 09:57 Hapahauli wrote:
On December 24 2012 09:53 Mr. Cheesecake wrote:
On December 24 2012 09:46 Hapahauli wrote:
So the trick to solving the game is devising a team where upon the results of the witchcraft election can prove that kush and I are town.


Wait why do you need to prove Kush town? I thought you were trying to prove Ghost town.


Because I need to make sure that I didn't block scum-kush taking the shot silly.


If hapa really wanted to make it about kush, he COULD HAVE made it about kush

eg:
Get Kush to vote for MrCC
Then hapa to vote for ghost

But he DIDN'T

Why?

Because it never was about kush

Show nested quote +
On December 24 2012 09:46 Hapahauli wrote:
So the trick to solving the game is devising a team where upon the results of the witchcraft election can prove that kush and I are town.


He initially wanted to prove that kush was town

Show nested quote +
On December 25 2012 02:12 Hapahauli wrote:
But yes, it's looking a lot like Kush + JX scumteam right now.


Now he wants to swing it to proving that kush is scum.

Problem is, if kush is scum and hapa JKed kush, The night kill would have went through

For someone who has spent so much time devising a plan, he doesn't seem to be sure on what he wants.
If you think kush is scum, why not do a confirm vote with Kush actually involved?



3) Loophole in the plan


if it's a hapa / mrcc team,
- nobody wins the election but mrcc can claim to have won:
- hapa / mrcc and djo will have confirmed townie status
- kush and I will be lynched = gg


##Vote: Hapahauli
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JieXian
Profile Blog Joined August 2008
Malaysia4677 Posts
December 26 2012 22:26 GMT
#2988
wth I was expecting hapa and mrcc together.
I find it funny how it's about how it's about voted for witchcraft and we have a player named ghost.
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JieXian
Profile Blog Joined August 2008
Malaysia4677 Posts
December 26 2012 22:27 GMT
#2989
i'll continue tomorrow goodnight
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JieXian
Profile Blog Joined August 2008
Malaysia4677 Posts
December 27 2012 05:10 GMT
#2992
On December 27 2012 07:32 Hapahauli wrote:
Show nested quote +
On December 27 2012 07:26 JieXian wrote:
wth I was expecting hapa and mrcc together.
I find it funny how it's about how it's about voted for witchcraft and we have a player named ghost.


You were convinced it was Me and CC pre-flip. Why is this impossible in your view now? Couldn't a hypothetical CC/Hapa scumteam just be lying about this?

And btw, no one answer this for him.



If even you believe that, I can't help but to agree lol lol

so are you going to do the honours and vote yourself tomorrow?
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JieXian
Profile Blog Joined August 2008
Malaysia4677 Posts
December 27 2012 06:22 GMT
#2994
lol you're testing me? you're so funny. I still have my case on you

A rogue townie could have manipulated the vote, someone like kush who was about to be lynched if djo flips town.

your plan failed
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JieXian
Profile Blog Joined August 2008
Malaysia4677 Posts
December 27 2012 06:27 GMT
#2995
On December 27 2012 06:20 kushm4sta wrote:
cheesecake stfu the plan remains the same. dont fuck with it its good


On December 27 2012 07:14 kushm4sta wrote:
knew it. so knew it


On December 27 2012 07:23 kushm4sta wrote:
cheesecake you have to lead the bandwagon on yourself


sounds like a man with a plan to me
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