• Log InLog In
  • Register
Liquid`
Team Liquid Liquipedia
EST 11:56
CET 17:56
KST 01:56
  • Home
  • Forum
  • Calendar
  • Streams
  • Liquipedia
  • Features
  • Store
  • EPT
  • TL+
  • StarCraft 2
  • Brood War
  • Smash
  • Heroes
  • Counter-Strike
  • Overwatch
  • Liquibet
  • Fantasy StarCraft
  • TLPD
  • StarCraft 2
  • Brood War
  • Blogs
Forum Sidebar
Events/Features
News
Featured News
TL.net Map Contest #21: Winners8Intel X Team Liquid Seoul event: Showmatches and Meet the Pros10[ASL20] Finals Preview: Arrival13TL.net Map Contest #21: Voting12[ASL20] Ro4 Preview: Descent11
Community News
Starcraft, SC2, HoTS, WC3, returning to Blizzcon!33$5,000+ WardiTV 2025 Championship6[BSL21] RO32 Group Stage4Weekly Cups (Oct 26-Nov 2): Liquid, Clem, Solar win; LAN in Philly2Weekly Cups (Oct 20-26): MaxPax, Clem, Creator win9
StarCraft 2
General
RotterdaM "Serral is the GOAT, and it's not close" TL.net Map Contest #21: Winners Starcraft, SC2, HoTS, WC3, returning to Blizzcon! 5.0.15 Patch Balance Hotfix (2025-10-8) Weekly Cups (Oct 20-26): MaxPax, Clem, Creator win
Tourneys
$5,000+ WardiTV 2025 Championship Sparkling Tuna Cup - Weekly Open Tournament Constellation Cup - Main Event - Stellar Fest Merivale 8 Open - LAN - Stellar Fest Sea Duckling Open (Global, Bronze-Diamond)
Strategy
Custom Maps
Map Editor closed ?
External Content
Mutation # 498 Wheel of Misfortune|Cradle of Death Mutation # 497 Battle Haredened Mutation # 496 Endless Infection Mutation # 495 Rest In Peace
Brood War
General
BW General Discussion [ASL20] Ask the mapmakers — Drop your questions [BSL21] RO32 Group Stage BGH Auto Balance -> http://bghmmr.eu/ SnOw's ASL S20 Finals Review
Tourneys
[Megathread] Daily Proleagues [ASL20] Grand Finals [BSL21] RO32 Group B - Sunday 21:00 CET [BSL21] RO32 Group A - Saturday 21:00 CET
Strategy
Current Meta PvZ map balance How to stay on top of macro? Soma's 9 hatch build from ASL Game 2
Other Games
General Games
Path of Exile Stormgate/Frost Giant Megathread Dawn of War IV Nintendo Switch Thread ZeroSpace Megathread
Dota 2
Official 'what is Dota anymore' discussion
League of Legends
Heroes of the Storm
Simple Questions, Simple Answers Heroes of the Storm 2.0
Hearthstone
Deck construction bug Heroes of StarCraft mini-set
TL Mafia
TL Mafia Community Thread SPIRED by.ASL Mafia {211640}
Community
General
US Politics Mega-thread Russo-Ukrainian War Thread Things Aren’t Peaceful in Palestine YouTube Thread Dating: How's your luck?
Fan Clubs
White-Ra Fan Club The herO Fan Club!
Media & Entertainment
Anime Discussion Thread Movie Discussion! [Manga] One Piece Korean Music Discussion Series you have seen recently...
Sports
2024 - 2026 Football Thread NBA General Discussion MLB/Baseball 2023 TeamLiquid Health and Fitness Initiative For 2023 Formula 1 Discussion
World Cup 2022
Tech Support
SC2 Client Relocalization [Change SC2 Language] Linksys AE2500 USB WIFI keeps disconnecting Computer Build, Upgrade & Buying Resource Thread
TL Community
The Automated Ban List Recent Gifted Posts
Blogs
Coffee x Performance in Espo…
TrAiDoS
Saturation point
Uldridge
DnB/metal remix FFO Mick Go…
ImbaTosS
Why we need SC3
Hildegard
Reality "theory" prov…
perfectspheres
Our Last Hope in th…
KrillinFromwales
Customize Sidebar...

Website Feedback

Closed Threads



Active: 1756 users

Witchcraft Mini Mafia - Page 14

Forum Index > TL Mafia
Post a Reply
Prev 1 12 13 14 15 16 Next All
JieXian
Profile Blog Joined August 2008
Malaysia4677 Posts
December 26 2012 19:33 GMT
#2920
I'd like to see you do it and prove me wrong if you're townie

What do you expect to gain after djo's confirmation?
Please send me a PM of any song you like that I most probably never heard of! I am looking for people to chat about writing and producing music | https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=noD-bsOcxuU |
JieXian
Profile Blog Joined August 2008
Malaysia4677 Posts
December 26 2012 19:35 GMT
#2921
though I don't see that being something possible.
Please send me a PM of any song you like that I most probably never heard of! I am looking for people to chat about writing and producing music | https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=noD-bsOcxuU |
JieXian
Profile Blog Joined August 2008
Malaysia4677 Posts
December 26 2012 19:45 GMT
#2922
Guys, think about it the outcome of the elections again, if hapa really is townie, and MrCC wins:

1) DJO and MrCC gets confirmed townie.

2) Since Kush couldn't possibly be RBed from performing the NK, he'd be confirmed townie since hapa must have saved kush from the NK

3) We are left with Ghost and Me, and since Ghost supposedly got the green DT check from Hapa, we're left with one unconfirmed townie = me

ie If Hapa is townie, his election plan will lead to a conclusion that only 1 scum is left
Please send me a PM of any song you like that I most probably never heard of! I am looking for people to chat about writing and producing music | https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=noD-bsOcxuU |
JieXian
Profile Blog Joined August 2008
Malaysia4677 Posts
December 26 2012 19:59 GMT
#2927
because I follow the logic. Based on today's happenings, I was wrong about djo
Please send me a PM of any song you like that I most probably never heard of! I am looking for people to chat about writing and producing music | https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=noD-bsOcxuU |
JieXian
Profile Blog Joined August 2008
Malaysia4677 Posts
December 26 2012 20:00 GMT
#2928
btw towards the end of d2 my vote was on hapa
Please send me a PM of any song you like that I most probably never heard of! I am looking for people to chat about writing and producing music | https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=noD-bsOcxuU |
JieXian
Profile Blog Joined August 2008
Malaysia4677 Posts
December 26 2012 20:00 GMT
#2929
i mean d3
Please send me a PM of any song you like that I most probably never heard of! I am looking for people to chat about writing and producing music | https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=noD-bsOcxuU |
JieXian
Profile Blog Joined August 2008
Malaysia4677 Posts
December 26 2012 20:02 GMT
#2930
On December 27 2012 04:51 Hapahauli wrote:
Show nested quote +
I'd like to see you do it and prove me wrong if you're townie


Nah. I really don't have any shot at changing your mind so I don't feel like it. If Djo is confirmed as scum, I'll answer for this (but keep in mind that my "scum-strategy" this game would have been to "bus" two of my "teammates"). . If he flips town, I'm lynching you next.

Show nested quote +
What do you expect to gain after djo's confirmation?


Is this a serious question? "What do I expect to gain from mod-confirming a player's alignment?"



I wanted to hear it from you but I got it


On December 27 2012 04:52 Hapahauli wrote:
Show nested quote +
On December 27 2012 04:45 JieXian wrote:
Guys, think about it the outcome of the elections again, if hapa really is townie, and MrCC wins:

1) DJO and MrCC gets confirmed townie.

2) Since Kush couldn't possibly be RBed from performing the NK, he'd be confirmed townie since hapa must have saved kush from the NK

3) We are left with Ghost and Me, and since Ghost supposedly got the green DT check from Hapa, we're left with one unconfirmed townie = me

ie If Hapa is townie, his election plan will lead to a conclusion that only 1 scum is left


Oh that's wrong. Kush wouldn't be confirmed town. It would just mean that I blocked Kush from taking the mafia shot.


False, if it were a kush/jx team my shot would have went through
Please send me a PM of any song you like that I most probably never heard of! I am looking for people to chat about writing and producing music | https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=noD-bsOcxuU |
JieXian
Profile Blog Joined August 2008
Malaysia4677 Posts
December 26 2012 20:03 GMT
#2932
if anyone wants to catch up please read these posts where I've gathered my thoughts well

http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/viewmessage.php?topic_id=386816&currentpage=146#2917
http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/viewmessage.php?topic_id=386816&currentpage=147#2922
Please send me a PM of any song you like that I most probably never heard of! I am looking for people to chat about writing and producing music | https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=noD-bsOcxuU |
JieXian
Profile Blog Joined August 2008
Malaysia4677 Posts
December 26 2012 20:03 GMT
#2934
On December 27 2012 05:02 Hapahauli wrote:
I'm curious JX - what makes my gameplay here different from my town gameplay in Newbie XX?


it's littered with scum. I already broke down your plan
Please send me a PM of any song you like that I most probably never heard of! I am looking for people to chat about writing and producing music | https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=noD-bsOcxuU |
JieXian
Profile Blog Joined August 2008
Malaysia4677 Posts
December 26 2012 20:06 GMT
#2936
On December 27 2012 05:03 Hapahauli wrote:
Show nested quote +
On December 27 2012 05:02 JieXian wrote:
...
On December 27 2012 04:52 Hapahauli wrote:
On December 27 2012 04:45 JieXian wrote:
Guys, think about it the outcome of the elections again, if hapa really is townie, and MrCC wins:

1) DJO and MrCC gets confirmed townie.

2) Since Kush couldn't possibly be RBed from performing the NK, he'd be confirmed townie since hapa must have saved kush from the NK

3) We are left with Ghost and Me, and since Ghost supposedly got the green DT check from Hapa, we're left with one unconfirmed townie = me

ie If Hapa is townie, his election plan will lead to a conclusion that only 1 scum is left


Oh that's wrong. Kush wouldn't be confirmed town. It would just mean that I blocked Kush from taking the mafia shot.


False, if it were a kush/jx team my shot would have went through


Uh... rofl?


from mafiascum:

In particular, when there is one Mafioso left Roleblockers can be used to confirm players - if the Mafia's kill goes through, whoever was blocked that Night isn't the last Mafioso. Inversely, if a Roleblocker blocks someone and the Mafia's kill disappears, there is a decent chance that the Roleblocker blocked the scum who was performing the kill (though this is not necessarily the case, given that other power roles may have had a hand in it).
Please send me a PM of any song you like that I most probably never heard of! I am looking for people to chat about writing and producing music | https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=noD-bsOcxuU |
JieXian
Profile Blog Joined August 2008
Malaysia4677 Posts
December 26 2012 20:07 GMT
#2937
On December 27 2012 05:06 Mr. Cheesecake wrote:
So JX, you shot somebody? Good to know.


you're trying too hard. I said if. There are 2 mafia left. RBing a mafia won't stop the NK
Please send me a PM of any song you like that I most probably never heard of! I am looking for people to chat about writing and producing music | https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=noD-bsOcxuU |
JieXian
Profile Blog Joined August 2008
Malaysia4677 Posts
December 26 2012 20:09 GMT
#2940
On December 27 2012 05:06 Mr. Cheesecake wrote:
So JX, you shot somebody? Good to know.


know your tenses

conditional [kənˈdɪʃənəl]
adj
1. depending on other factors; not certain
2. (Linguistics / Grammar) Grammar (of a clause, conjunction, form of a verb, or whole sentence) expressing a condition on which something else is contingent: ``If he comes'' is a conditional clause in the sentence ``If he comes I shall go''
Please send me a PM of any song you like that I most probably never heard of! I am looking for people to chat about writing and producing music | https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=noD-bsOcxuU |
JieXian
Profile Blog Joined August 2008
Malaysia4677 Posts
December 26 2012 20:09 GMT
#2942
On December 27 2012 05:08 Hapahauli wrote:
Yes, if there's one mafia left. Not two.


Meaning there's 2 left so you couldn't possibly have RBed a mafia from the NK

good to know you are agreeing
Please send me a PM of any song you like that I most probably never heard of! I am looking for people to chat about writing and producing music | https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=noD-bsOcxuU |
JieXian
Profile Blog Joined August 2008
Malaysia4677 Posts
December 26 2012 20:12 GMT
#2944
On December 27 2012 05:09 Mr. Cheesecake wrote:
Kush could take the NK... kush is roleblocked. What don't you understand about that?

Yes roleblocking stops the mafia NK If he is the one to take the shot.


this logic should work in Newbie mafia where people don't know the rules

from mafiascum:

In particular, when there is one Mafioso left Roleblockers can be used to confirm players - if the Mafia's kill goes through, whoever was blocked that Night isn't the last Mafioso. Inversely, if a Roleblocker blocks someone and the Mafia's kill disappears, there is a decent chance that the Roleblocker blocked the scum who was performing the kill (though this is not necessarily the case, given that other power roles may have had a hand in it).
[/QUOTE]

let's let Blazinghand settle it
when there are 2 mafia left RBing one of them won't stop the NK right?
Please send me a PM of any song you like that I most probably never heard of! I am looking for people to chat about writing and producing music | https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=noD-bsOcxuU |
JieXian
Profile Blog Joined August 2008
Malaysia4677 Posts
December 26 2012 21:57 GMT
#2975
On December 27 2012 06:47 Blazinghand wrote:
RBing the mafia player who is delivering the NK will stop the NK.


ok fine, I'll admit my mistake on that, but my main point still stands, yes, a part of it that relies on RBing isn't true

On December 27 2012 03:52 JieXian wrote:


Hapa



1) N3 no kill and kush

Show nested quote +
On December 24 2012 06:59 Hapahauli wrote:
I won the witchcraft elections. I'm Jailkeeping Kush today for the following reasons:

A CC/Djo scumteam has four NK options
1) Kill ghost. Not a good idea, since that would confirm my green check on him.
2) Kill me. Not a good idea, since they're pushing me for a mislynch + it would confirm ghost as town.
3) Kill JieXian. Not a good idea, since JX is trying to lynch me.
4) Kill kush. Best idea, since kush believes Djo is scum.

If kush doesn't die, I either successfully roleblocked scum, or I blocked the NK of the scumteam. I'm convinced the latter is correct.

Alternatively I could gamble on a roleblock, but it's 50/50. I could DT check, but I have a high risk of getting roleblocked tonight by scum.


There are so many holes in his logic:

1) Excellent choice to kill a supposed confirmed townie. Hapa could be mafia fakeclaiming DT for townie cred, knowing ghost's alignment.
2) Hapa being shot would ONLY confirm ghost as town if and only if hapa flips green. Only me and mrcc were suspicious of hapa and mrcc never posted any cases. He only whined about crap like how hapa was betrayed his trust.
3) No one seems to be buying my case at all, djo and kush were against the idea, ghost didn't care, mrcc did nothing but whine.
4) only true if Djo actually is scum and there's a lot of WIFOM

if Kush doesn't die, Hapa either JKed kush or he chose not to NK anyone. Since there are 2 scum left hapa can't stop a death by RBing someone.

Hapa has lied about his justification on the N3 no kill



2) The election plan to decide kush's alignment

Get Djo to vote for Mrcc , hapa to vote for ghost

+ Show Spoiler +
On December 24 2012 15:49 Djodref wrote:
Voting Cheese doesn't pose my any problem. I'm quite happy with this vote ^^
It's done !



On December 24 2012 16:00 Hapahauli wrote:
Awesomesauce.

My vote has been officially casted for ghost_403.

So if CC wins the election, you are confirmed town Djo. If ghost wins, you are confirmed scum.

Show nested quote +
On December 24 2012 09:57 Hapahauli wrote:
On December 24 2012 09:53 Mr. Cheesecake wrote:
On December 24 2012 09:46 Hapahauli wrote:
So the trick to solving the game is devising a team where upon the results of the witchcraft election can prove that kush and I are town.


Wait why do you need to prove Kush town? I thought you were trying to prove Ghost town.


Because I need to make sure that I didn't block scum-kush taking the shot silly.


If hapa really wanted to make it about kush, he COULD HAVE made it about kush

eg:
Get Kush to vote for MrCC
Then hapa to vote for ghost

But he DIDN'T

Why?

Because it never was about kush

Show nested quote +
On December 24 2012 09:46 Hapahauli wrote:
So the trick to solving the game is devising a team where upon the results of the witchcraft election can prove that kush and I are town.


He initially wanted to prove that kush was town

Show nested quote +
On December 25 2012 02:12 Hapahauli wrote:
But yes, it's looking a lot like Kush + JX scumteam right now.


Now he wants to swing it to proving that kush is scum.

Problem is, if kush is scum and hapa JKed kush, The night kill would have went through

For someone who has spent so much time devising a plan, he doesn't seem to be sure on what he wants.
If you think kush is scum, why not do a confirm vote with Kush actually involved?



3) Loophole in the plan


if it's a hapa / mrcc team,
- nobody wins the election but mrcc can claim to have won:
- hapa / mrcc and djo will have confirmed townie status
- kush and I will be lynched = gg


##Vote: Hapahauli
Please send me a PM of any song you like that I most probably never heard of! I am looking for people to chat about writing and producing music | https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=noD-bsOcxuU |
JieXian
Profile Blog Joined August 2008
Malaysia4677 Posts
December 26 2012 22:26 GMT
#2988
wth I was expecting hapa and mrcc together.
I find it funny how it's about how it's about voted for witchcraft and we have a player named ghost.
Please send me a PM of any song you like that I most probably never heard of! I am looking for people to chat about writing and producing music | https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=noD-bsOcxuU |
JieXian
Profile Blog Joined August 2008
Malaysia4677 Posts
December 26 2012 22:27 GMT
#2989
i'll continue tomorrow goodnight
Please send me a PM of any song you like that I most probably never heard of! I am looking for people to chat about writing and producing music | https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=noD-bsOcxuU |
JieXian
Profile Blog Joined August 2008
Malaysia4677 Posts
December 27 2012 05:10 GMT
#2992
On December 27 2012 07:32 Hapahauli wrote:
Show nested quote +
On December 27 2012 07:26 JieXian wrote:
wth I was expecting hapa and mrcc together.
I find it funny how it's about how it's about voted for witchcraft and we have a player named ghost.


You were convinced it was Me and CC pre-flip. Why is this impossible in your view now? Couldn't a hypothetical CC/Hapa scumteam just be lying about this?

And btw, no one answer this for him.



If even you believe that, I can't help but to agree lol lol

so are you going to do the honours and vote yourself tomorrow?
Please send me a PM of any song you like that I most probably never heard of! I am looking for people to chat about writing and producing music | https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=noD-bsOcxuU |
JieXian
Profile Blog Joined August 2008
Malaysia4677 Posts
December 27 2012 06:22 GMT
#2994
lol you're testing me? you're so funny. I still have my case on you

A rogue townie could have manipulated the vote, someone like kush who was about to be lynched if djo flips town.

your plan failed
Please send me a PM of any song you like that I most probably never heard of! I am looking for people to chat about writing and producing music | https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=noD-bsOcxuU |
JieXian
Profile Blog Joined August 2008
Malaysia4677 Posts
December 27 2012 06:27 GMT
#2995
On December 27 2012 06:20 kushm4sta wrote:
cheesecake stfu the plan remains the same. dont fuck with it its good


On December 27 2012 07:14 kushm4sta wrote:
knew it. so knew it


On December 27 2012 07:23 kushm4sta wrote:
cheesecake you have to lead the bandwagon on yourself


sounds like a man with a plan to me
Please send me a PM of any song you like that I most probably never heard of! I am looking for people to chat about writing and producing music | https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=noD-bsOcxuU |
Prev 1 12 13 14 15 16 Next All
Please log in or register to reply.
Live Events Refresh
Next event in 1h 5m
[ Submit Event ]
Live Streams
Refresh
StarCraft 2
RotterdaM 570
Livibee 96
MindelVK 11
StarCraft: Brood War
Jaedong 2126
GuemChi 1219
Light 1167
EffOrt 841
Stork 692
Larva 454
Snow 397
Barracks 298
Mini 268
Rush 228
[ Show more ]
sSak 148
sorry 136
Leta 101
JYJ40
zelot 28
Aegong 28
Backho 28
soO 20
scan(afreeca) 14
Bale 11
Terrorterran 10
HiyA 9
Dota 2
qojqva3747
syndereN295
420jenkins280
Counter-Strike
oskar116
Other Games
singsing1996
DeMusliM389
Lowko265
crisheroes219
Hui .152
Liquid`VortiX151
KnowMe127
QueenE58
Trikslyr35
Organizations
Counter-Strike
PGL190
Other Games
BasetradeTV99
StarCraft 2
Blizzard YouTube
StarCraft: Brood War
BSLTrovo
sctven
[ Show 18 non-featured ]
StarCraft 2
• Kozan
• IndyKCrew
• sooper7s
• Migwel
• AfreecaTV YouTube
• LaughNgamezSOOP
• intothetv
StarCraft: Brood War
• Michael_bg 5
• STPLYoutube
• ZZZeroYoutube
• BSLYoutube
Dota 2
• C_a_k_e 3818
• lizZardDota228
League of Legends
• Nemesis4810
• TFBlade983
Other Games
• WagamamaTV348
• Shiphtur210
• tFFMrPink 11
Upcoming Events
LAN Event
1h 5m
Lambo vs Harstem
FuturE vs Maplez
Scarlett vs FoxeR
Gerald vs Mixu
Zoun vs TBD
Clem vs TBD
ByuN vs TBD
TriGGeR vs TBD
ComeBackTV 25
Korean StarCraft League
10h 5m
CranKy Ducklings
17h 5m
IPSL
1d 1h
dxtr13 vs OldBoy
Napoleon vs Doodle
LAN Event
1d 1h
BSL 21
1d 3h
Gosudark vs Kyrie
Gypsy vs Sterling
UltrA vs Radley
Dandy vs Ptak
Replay Cast
1d 6h
Sparkling Tuna Cup
1d 17h
WardiTV Korean Royale
1d 19h
IPSL
2 days
JDConan vs WIZARD
WolFix vs Cross
[ Show More ]
LAN Event
2 days
BSL 21
2 days
spx vs rasowy
HBO vs KameZerg
Cross vs Razz
dxtr13 vs ZZZero
Replay Cast
2 days
Wardi Open
2 days
WardiTV Korean Royale
3 days
Replay Cast
4 days
Kung Fu Cup
4 days
Classic vs Solar
herO vs Cure
Reynor vs GuMiho
ByuN vs ShoWTimE
Tenacious Turtle Tussle
5 days
The PondCast
5 days
RSL Revival
5 days
Solar vs Zoun
MaxPax vs Bunny
Kung Fu Cup
5 days
WardiTV Korean Royale
5 days
RSL Revival
6 days
Classic vs Creator
Cure vs TriGGeR
Kung Fu Cup
6 days
Liquipedia Results

Completed

BSL 21 Points
SC4ALL: StarCraft II
Eternal Conflict S1

Ongoing

C-Race Season 1
IPSL Winter 2025-26
KCM Race Survival 2025 Season 4
SOOP Univ League 2025
YSL S2
Stellar Fest: Constellation Cup
IEM Chengdu 2025
PGL Masters Bucharest 2025
Thunderpick World Champ.
CS Asia Championships 2025
ESL Pro League S22
StarSeries Fall 2025
FISSURE Playground #2
BLAST Open Fall 2025
BLAST Open Fall Qual

Upcoming

BSL Season 21
SLON Tour Season 2
BSL 21 Non-Korean Championship
Acropolis #4
IPSL Spring 2026
HSC XXVIII
RSL Offline Finals
WardiTV 2025
RSL Revival: Season 3
META Madness #9
BLAST Bounty Winter 2026: Closed Qualifier
eXTREMESLAND 2025
ESL Impact League Season 8
SL Budapest Major 2025
BLAST Rivals Fall 2025
TLPD

1. ByuN
2. TY
3. Dark
4. Solar
5. Stats
6. Nerchio
7. sOs
8. soO
9. INnoVation
10. Elazer
1. Rain
2. Flash
3. EffOrt
4. Last
5. Bisu
6. Soulkey
7. Mini
8. Sharp
Sidebar Settings...

Advertising | Privacy Policy | Terms Of Use | Contact Us

Original banner artwork: Jim Warren
The contents of this webpage are copyright © 2025 TLnet. All Rights Reserved.