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On December 18 2012 13:31 Djodref wrote: WTF ! Suddendly I'm scum ? I'm not here to participate into your shitfest and that makes me scum ? Let me be clear I live in South Korea, most of the discussion here happens at night for me I have another game going on wich requires much attention and time for me I don't want to participate into this kind of discussions I provided some good cases that almost everybody has dismissed or discarded If you think I'm scum, you have to write a case against me. Something I could answer to. I cannot accept to let you throw away 'Djodref is possible scum' or 'Djodref is scum' comments like this. But I'm glad that this shitfest is over, seriously... This is pretty funny actually. | ||
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On December 18 2012 13:35 Djodref wrote: I'm phone posting from work right now... What do you guys think about lynching Kush today ? I didn't get a single comment on my case against him. I'd rather lynch DoYouHas. I'm not a fan of Kush's play so far, but I can't quite connect the scumdots on him yet. He's detached and apparently he has finals. I will say that his latest comment really rubbed me the wrong way... On December 18 2012 07:05 kushm4sta wrote: This might be the scummiest thing you have said so far this game. ... which he drops right after the deadline and proceeds to peace-out from the thread. I'm trying to be a bit more mindful of the OMGUS stuff, but things like this ("fueling the fire" so-to-speak) I find as scummy. | ||
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On December 18 2012 13:48 DoYouHas wrote: Ok, I'm here and I've caught up. Working on a more extensive case against MrZ atm, but here is your chance to pick my brain before I go to bed. It better be good, because MrZ looks like really obv town. | ||
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On December 18 2012 13:48 DoYouHas wrote: Ok, I'm here and I've caught up. Working on a more extensive case against MrZ atm, but here is your chance to pick my brain before I go to bed. You were convinced that Eywa was scum. What do you make of the last few pages? | ||
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On December 18 2012 13:49 Djodref wrote: Honestly, regarding DYH, I can't remember exactly what he has done in this game. I could totally imagine him or drazak being mafia given their general lack of emotional involment during the shitfest. I need to look at them both, but I would prefer to do it from a computer. Not remembering a player's usually a good sign that they're blending in. Admittedly I haven't considered Drazak as much as I should though, but consider voting DYH. Regarding Kush, I don't remember him mentioning finals, but right now I could have him as scum for activity alone. He's really avoiding to answer some questions. He talked about it here, and mentioned he wasn't going to contribute until Tuesday or something due to schoolwork fo some sort. http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/viewmessage.php?topic_id=386816¤tpage=61#1215 I have personal concerns regarding him because he s keeping saying that I'm mafia without backing it up. I would gadly unvote Eywa for Kush if Eywa keeps on contributing like he started to do. Kush's detachment is quite uncharacteristic of him as either alignment, but there's not much I can say that's townie about his filter. He defended Eywa for quite some time, which I could interpret as either alignment. If there's a anything really scummy in his filter, it's probably him vote-swapping between threesr and Morbidius at the end of D1. He switches votes 5-6 times, and it reads like he doesn't care about who dies. | ||
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On December 18 2012 14:07 DoYouHas wrote: It is definitely a pretty drastic change from earlier. I don't really trust it until I see more. His most reasonable posts have been lists, while when he is actually pushing someone he seems entirely unreasonable. Not to mention he went from you being obvious scum, to you being likely scum, to you being probable scum, to taking cues from you on lynch targets in a very short space of time. That is a little fast. Who is your top scumread now - Eywa or MrZ? | ||
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Please catch up on recent thread events. I don't have my vote on you atm. In fact it's probably best just to go start at page 70 and work your way onwards. Less angry and whatnot. | ||
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On December 18 2012 23:35 Eywa- wrote: Given Recent Events, I'd like to give the following hypothesis: Djodref or Kush (either or is scum) Djodref and Kush don't appear to be on the same team, however, they both seem scummy. hapahauli and Mr.Cheesecake or DoYouHas and MrZentor Other Possible - drazak, Jie Xian Hapahauli has had many slips and has not always done well under pressure, I'm not sure if this is due to him being a scum bag, it's still something I consider very reasonable. He also has a very strong attachment to Mr.Cheesecake who is even more scummy than hapahauli... To sum up cheesecake's posting history... Not very well thought out. For a moment I thought that DoYouHas didn't look scummy at all... But then I was trying to put together the pieces on his obsession with MrZentor and I found that... Why would anyone push for that lynch? To prove innocent. In the scenario where DoYouHas would be scum, MrZentor is as well given that they've kind of been on with their little side show for quite some time. I mean there's no reasonable explanation as to why DoYouHas just went after MrZentor other than MrZentor is a guaranteed non-lynch. By this, he throws out a vote while not bothering the disputing players (me and hapahauli + CC). MrZentor then throws his vote at DoYouHas knowing that before the day is over, there will be enough proof going for DoYouHas to disprove him being a mafia member. Now this is highly advanced play, so I kind of doubt it's the reality. Jie Xian - This guy is all over the place, the biggest reason for me to think he is mafia is that there is always something that triggers people who swear they want him dead so bad to switch targets, people look at him and are like "yeah, he's definitely scum" (which I don't buy 100%)... but then one of the keen players always finds a reason to switch off of him... Is this due to some other attachment? I'm not sure. Drazak is thrown into the mix because I have no idea what is game play is... He's a lurker and typically there is a negative connotation given to lurkers. DYH + MrZ I don't think there's a link between DYH and MrZ. On the one hand yes, they're rather concerned with one another. Though I think that arises out of DYH's "cases" against MrZ and simply MrZ's replies. Based on their individual play, I'm more inclined to think that a scum DYH is pushing a MrZ (town) mislynch. That seems like the most logical and reasonable explanation behind the events. Djo + Kush Djo seems town. Other than his sleep-schedule not lining up with the rest of us, he's posting rather often, building cases... etc. It seems like he's genuinely trying to find mafia. Kush on the other hand hasn't done much to make me think he's town. His play is really lacking so far. One concern I have is that his scum-games in the past have been very whiny/emotional/etc. While this game is none of that, his uselessness so far speaks volumes. Scum #3 For me this is down between JieXian, Mr.CC, and Drazak. I'm not sure on this one yet. I need to get some answers from JieXian regarding some of his D1 actions. In addition, his OMGUS seems pretty uncharacteristic of the last town game I played with him (Newbie XX). He wasn't all this ragey, but I do see traces of his town play and mentality in this game. I'm leaning town on JieXian. Drazak... is... lurky. I have to sit down and go through his filter again. I think you guys are more right about Mr.CC than I first gave you credit for. It's not so much his voting actions that are scummy though - it's his lack of content in his filter. He just hasn't done much. When he's been in the thread, he's been fighting with Eywa as opposed to doing anything productive. I'm worried that this could just be a frustrated townie though. Now that things are calmer, I'll have to see what he's going to do scum-hunting wise. | ||
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There are a lot of things in his cases that read townie to me. For example, him really looking for specific Kush comments seems town motivated. Most scum aren't going to read into the game that carefully (no real motivation to do so beyond pushing the occasional mislynch). I also came away from his first argument with me (early D1) with him being town. We argued over a misunderstanding about the game-rules, and as soon as he understood that I misread something, he immediately backed off. That's something that strikes me as really townie - not taking an argument further than it needs to go. Regarding the Scumteam I'm convinced that DYH is scum. I'm leaning scum on Kush and Mr.CC, though I think Drazak could be subbed in for either of them. | ||
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On December 19 2012 04:36 kushm4sta wrote: hapa why are you flip flopping on ewya so hard. and I admit and appoligize for my uselessness . like I said irl issues I'm dealing which should be gone tonight. Read page 70 and onward. We buddied hardcore man. | ||
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On December 19 2012 04:51 kushm4sta wrote: k well I played with scum djo and it fooled everyone the entire game. Okay, but what about Djo is scummy this game? Like I'm scared of Djo's scumplay myself (he always sounds really genuine), but he's done quite a bit of scumhunting this game. It also sounds like you're calling his case on you shit without actually addressing it. | ||
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On December 19 2012 05:04 Eywa- wrote: #unvote Hapahauli, I see no scum on DoYouHas right now... I'm not sure (of course, I can't be sure... But I think I have a good idea of what's going on). Would you be willing to vote either CC or Djodref today? Not Djo, but maybe CC. What about DoYouHas is not scummy? All he's done since we called him out for his play is promise a case on MrZ, then getting lazy and going to bed. | ||
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On December 19 2012 05:40 Eywa- wrote: Because scum, due to the individual accomplishment, even detached scum don't forfeit... DoYouHas has shown no interest in winning an individual game. If you're willing to put your vote on CC, I'm okay with that. What do you mean "forfeit?" He said he said he'd write the case today rather than last night. This shows to me a huge lack of urgency in pursuing his top scumread (MrZ). Also, he hasn't given up, since he apparently is going to post his case sometime today. Until then, I have to take his play at face value: he's pushing two obvious townies to get lynched for very strange reasons. Also, scum are lazy and "forfeit" all the time. | ||
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On December 18 2012 12:38 MrZentor wrote: When we kill DYH and he flips red, can I get the credit for his lynch? I mean, I was the first to vote for him. MrZentor, you never voted for DYH when you made this comment. What gives? | ||
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