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Promethelax
Profile Joined February 2012
Canada7089 Posts
December 07 2012 13:34 GMT
#941
If you wish to make a formal complaint about a player contact your hosts. Leave any and all discussion of bans or moderation until the post game. Final warning.
TL Mafia. Love it. Play it. http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/index.php?show_part=31 I find Kennigit really attractive. If anyone has a picture of him please feel free to PM it to me.
Kickstart
Profile Blog Joined May 2008
United States1941 Posts
December 07 2012 13:37 GMT
#942
##Vote: AxleGreaser

whatever
Rad
Profile Joined May 2010
United States935 Posts
December 07 2012 16:03 GMT
#943
Axle, imagine yourself and 2 others left in this game. One of you is scum. How the fuck is town supposed to decide if you're scum or not in that scenario? You're literally forcing yourself to be a policy lynch due to being 100% unreadable. I can't even consider you newbie town anymore because you're just spamming up the thread with no direction. You ask a question, get a couple answers, and do NOTHING with it. You vote yourself, unvote, vote, unvote, talk to yourself, wtf? If you get lynched and flip scum I will /facepalm. If you get lynched and flip town, I will have to consider not playing with you anymore.

From last NMM obs:

glhf
Its hammer time.

If this post is not what I ought put here, I am good with editing it away.

If OakMaster turns up would someone kindly direct him to this question, that might be best
thrashed out here not in Day 1 of XXXII noob game (As that might terrify the natives)

Oakmaster
I have never played game of mafia in my life.....
So you might tend to discount what I say.
However if an utter wet noob can say this too you and be right... perhaps there is a real problem.

Try getting some of obs to laugh at how silly these points are?

I might very well play in the next noob game depending when it starts.
I do however want it to be a fun experience for both of us.
I had however been tossing up the idea just not playing until you stop playing in the noobs.


I have been having trouble working out what I am going
to do so that if you and I play in a game I don't get mislynched D2.

As a noob seeking to learn.

I have been told what I should do when trying to do reads is not
get tied up in logic but look for the motivations of the player.

Thus I have a question I want to know what OakMasters actual motivation
was during D2.

A wagon was running on him, it acquired influential players.

During that time when there was real possibility he might have to claim...
Did he wonder what will be best for town or was his one priority, "get the lynch off me anywhere
doesn't have to be the best place, just so long as it is anywhere?"

How did you let it go to one of the towns previously Most town reads?

Were you overly suspicious of him?

What had Oakmaster been doing with his time, who did he want to lynch the most?
Or did he simply not care.


After that day how many people were actually saved by the blueness of his role?

If he had been in fact been as derp as he had been playing... wasn't it actually the worst play.
Did he bring any evidence he was not derp?


To scummy to be scum, to derp to be a doctor to be worth even saving was my read.

You didn't even come with any evidence you could play better than you had.

What would have happened if you looked for your meta case of kickstart the first day
and dropped that on top of Aquas post.

Obs would have cheered, so would I youd have been a legend, you might still be.

What had you done except wait for your time in the sun?

I know it is not my place, but I nominate OakMaster : Serial killer MVP.

Yeah I do know the available roles: my nomination stands.

BTW: This is how you execute someone.
Might it hurt his feelings? glhf.


What is your intention with your play this game axle. You criticize oats for his play in last NMM, but what would you say of yourself in this game? Who was worse, blue oats trying to save himself last game, or you literally contributing nothing to this game but confusion. You have the potential to take down town all on your own if we mislynch a couple times. What win scenario would that fit for you?

##Vote: AxleGreaser
AxleGreaser
Profile Joined November 2012
Australia1154 Posts
December 07 2012 17:12 GMT
#944
In the previous game that i could read posters, many followed a line of reasoning and thought, and displayed one skill level in this game perhaps because I am inside it I find players moving around a lot, first representing themselves as people that know very little and just get angry and then more sophisticated use of the language. That is very different to the RW where I developed what skill I have, at discerning intention.
Thus capability to do better, also as I noticed that Oats was a new player playing in your main matches and the newbie game it stood to reason he would have some skill at discerning information. If a scum player had been targeted and not set up the fake claim, that is just what it would have looked like.
My intention when playing this game was to see if when playing on the inside of game and posting if I could still do the same as in the last game and read people. I didn't know.

As I understand it, when player who is likely to get lynched gets wagon built on them that provides information to the other players. So yeah I am willing to be the townie that gets lynched. I settled on the no Lynch vote as it requires more votes to seal the deal.

Also if it is not a good play, Id expect another player to try something. If that didn't go as game play so fast it confused me then, I may or may not be able to help that.
So far Kicks and your vote is on me,
yours has some real content, that seeks to win the game. Hence I am addressing it.

Kicks reason was 'whatever'.

While the first part of your post addresses this game.
"Who was worse, blue oats trying to save himself last game, or you literally contributing nothing to this game but confusion. "

What game is this addressing please?
I signed up for a newbie game because i have never played before.

When not doing work for town when you are capable is one thing, I am failing not not trying.






Axle(OnlySomeTheoriesToAbsurdToBeConsidered)Greaser
AxleGreaser
Profile Joined November 2012
Australia1154 Posts
December 07 2012 17:17 GMT
#945
> If a scum player had been targeted and not set up the fake claim, that is just what it would have looked like.
In that they would have claimed role, said oh sorry I didnt get any reads, to get the role claim.
To make that harder to get away with Town player try with the abilities they have.
Axle(OnlySomeTheoriesToAbsurdToBeConsidered)Greaser
AxleGreaser
Profile Joined November 2012
Australia1154 Posts
December 07 2012 17:21 GMT
#946
What win scenario would that fit for you?


That 'newb' game was too hard for me.
Axle(OnlySomeTheoriesToAbsurdToBeConsidered)Greaser
AxleGreaser
Profile Joined November 2012
Australia1154 Posts
December 07 2012 17:29 GMT
#947
''You vote yourself, unvote, vote, unvote, talk to yourself, wtf?"

It now has 3 responses.

one portraying himself as Angry. Then through a conversation worked up to Voting.

Yours applies emotional pressure from things outside the game to get me to do something, different.
Other people that have other reads on you will ad that to their existing information

Which ever of the town people that are doing that, have the advantage of watching the interaction from the outside.

By waiting for an emotion vote to go first, it may be assessed that you have evaluated you need to be careful
People who know you better than me will judge whether you though that was plausible reason.

What intention do you have in asking me to explain mine?



Axle(OnlySomeTheoriesToAbsurdToBeConsidered)Greaser
AxleGreaser
Profile Joined November 2012
Australia1154 Posts
December 07 2012 17:34 GMT
#948
There is also the question people can ask themselves, of whether Sylencia was helping Kicks do a pro town thing of escalating up to a vote.
Sp that vote might get a seconder.
Axle(OnlySomeTheoriesToAbsurdToBeConsidered)Greaser
AxleGreaser
Profile Joined November 2012
Australia1154 Posts
December 07 2012 17:36 GMT
#949
EBWOP So that vote might get a seconder.
Axle(OnlySomeTheoriesToAbsurdToBeConsidered)Greaser
AxleGreaser
Profile Joined November 2012
Australia1154 Posts
December 07 2012 17:39 GMT
#950
Rad are you here. { notes to self must learn to ask first.}
Axle(OnlySomeTheoriesToAbsurdToBeConsidered)Greaser
Kickstart
Profile Blog Joined May 2008
United States1941 Posts
December 07 2012 18:01 GMT
#951
Do you not listen to a single word anyone has said to you. Are you just going to refuse to try and scumhunt at all?
AxleGreaser
Profile Joined November 2012
Australia1154 Posts
December 07 2012 18:04 GMT
#952
I am
Axle(OnlySomeTheoriesToAbsurdToBeConsidered)Greaser
AxleGreaser
Profile Joined November 2012
Australia1154 Posts
December 07 2012 18:43 GMT
#953
On December 08 2012 02:39 AxleGreaser wrote:
Rad are you here. { notes to self must learn to ask first.}

Axle(OnlySomeTheoriesToAbsurdToBeConsidered)Greaser
AxleGreaser
Profile Joined November 2012
Australia1154 Posts
December 07 2012 19:04 GMT
#954
+ Show Spoiler +

I have a feeling that throughout the rest of your mafia career (if you could call it that), you'll never push reads, you'll never get into arguments, never be "caught in a scum slip," and probably never be thoroughly understood (except here and there, occasionally).
Axle(OnlySomeTheoriesToAbsurdToBeConsidered)Greaser
AxleGreaser
Profile Joined November 2012
Australia1154 Posts
December 07 2012 19:09 GMT
#955
As this is pregame it should not be relevant.
+ Show Spoiler +

On December 04 2012 08:38 Rad wrote:
Show nested quote +
On December 04 2012 08:34 AxleGreaser wrote:
always fun, I thought that was the whole point/intention.


Maybe someone hates himself and this game and wants to punish himself by playing it.


Axle(OnlySomeTheoriesToAbsurdToBeConsidered)Greaser
AxleGreaser
Profile Joined November 2012
Australia1154 Posts
December 07 2012 19:14 GMT
#956
I'd like to know the intention of this. Did you have read on me as scum already?
Based on what?
Why else emotionally prod me?
+ Show Spoiler +

On December 04 2012 10:29 Rad wrote:
3. Green. I'll let you figure out why (spoiler: it's cause I'm a genius).



[QUOTE]On December 04 2012 12:20 Rad wrote:
[QUOTE]Don't hold back thinking others are just straight up better than you, waiting for them to make a move.[/QUOTE]

Ok...
Axle(OnlySomeTheoriesToAbsurdToBeConsidered)Greaser
AxleGreaser
Profile Joined November 2012
Australia1154 Posts
December 07 2012 19:36 GMT
#957
As it is my Best read and I know what I am,
##Vote Rad

Are you there? Please id like to talk to you.
I have some more questions about intentions.
Especially when they began.
Axle(OnlySomeTheoriesToAbsurdToBeConsidered)Greaser
Kickstart
Profile Blog Joined May 2008
United States1941 Posts
December 07 2012 19:49 GMT
#958
Now you are thinking Axle, good on ya. I was actually going to make a case on Rad based partially on his vote on you just now. But before I do so, would you want to justify your vote on him a bit more?

To better phrase it, could you give us a comprehensive explanation as to why you have the read you do on Rad?
AxleGreaser
Profile Joined November 2012
Australia1154 Posts
December 07 2012 19:56 GMT
#959
yeah I have stuff. I really did want to discuss it. but oh well
Axle(OnlySomeTheoriesToAbsurdToBeConsidered)Greaser
Kickstart
Profile Blog Joined May 2008
United States1941 Posts
December 07 2012 20:05 GMT
#960
Discuss it with me and the rest of the thread. I don't see why you need Rad here to be able to post your thoughts about him. If you do have questions, pose them at the end so he may respond when time permits him to do so.
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