EPTLike I've said before, this is when I work. Sorry I can't jump on and discuss this with you all day. Keep in mind we have over 24h to discuss this stuff, so if you want to leave me questions I will be more than happy to answer them when I get a chance to. It would be great if you could leave them in an easier to answer manner rather than scrambled throughout all your posts.
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Rad
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Like I've said before, this is when I work. Sorry I can't jump on and discuss this with you all day. Keep in mind we have over 24h to discuss this stuff, so if you want to leave me questions I will be more than happy to answer them when I get a chance to. It would be great if you could leave them in an easier to answer manner rather than scrambled throughout all your posts. | ||
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On December 08 2012 05:19 Rad wrote: Axle did you really just OMGUS me? =/ I dont think so. Is there time we could discuss more interactively before the next lynch time? | ||
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DarthPunk
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AxleGreaser (2) - Kickstart, Rad Rad (1) - AxleGreaser Not voting: jidolboy, yamato77, Arnarnion, Sylencia You have ~ 26 hours left to vote. | ||
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Rad
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AxleGreaser
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On December 08 2012 05:40 Kickstart wrote: Yes we have over 24 hours left. Please post some of your reasoning and questions for Rad so that we may all see your reasons and so that Rad may answer the questions when he has time. This is generally how forums work, you post something and then wait for a response so that not everyone is required to be there at the same exact time, you don't wait for everyone to gather in the thread and then start posting. Good if we are going to discuss things, then me discussing it with the person who committed first and hence most to this task is best way for me to be sure, that neither of us disclose more than is necessary to establish a shared understanding. First a theoretical discussion of why it is not currently wise for anyone to just go blah blah blah. If you are town 100% and you don't know who you are dealing with even if you do have a strong read. You should not show all your cards. You should not show cards in an atmosphere where there are arbitrarily long periods to craft an answer. One of the way to limit the depth to which the lies go is to insist the honest exchange happen in real time. While with time it is possible to make up very very deep lies you cant logic your way out of its real time exchange that carries risk for both parties. You drink the wine one molecule at time each. The prisoners dilemma, is a prisoners dilemma, but the iterated prisoners dilemma has tit for tat, I have not verified this, so if a mathematician wishes to object, please tell me. If you were careful each round in the iteration could be for higher and higher stakes and although the temptation to defect grows, the ever increasing possibility of future reward, ensures honesty in perpetuity. Q1. If someone wishes to discuss why we are going to play an iterated prisoners dilemma. Please do so. If you wish to show good faith by adding your own indipendent mathematical reason you have freedom to do so in you own way. A game of math tit for tat anyone? Or is math common language where it is too hard to lie.? We will thus not be playing one round of prisoners dilemma. I am happy to discuss it with either someone I trust so as to gain more trust. I am happy to discuss it with either someone I dont trust so as to solidify that read too. So is someone from my nominated list available? The questions and answering and stuff will go slow then speed up. If you don't like that please explain when all I ask is small amount of real time (now not prepared earlier) to satisfy my need to validate you, you cant give that? So is someone from my nominated list available? | ||
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On December 08 2012 07:48 DarthPunk wrote: Votecount: AxleGreaser (2) - Kickstart, Rad Rad (1) - AxleGreaser Not voting: jidolboy, yamato77, Arnarnion, Sylencia You have ~ 26 hours left to vote. | ||
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AxleGreaser
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In an iterated prisoners dilemma each party takes a small risk, where cooperating has the biggest pay off, but either side could 'defect' at anytime. If this is an actual game, this is the best strategy I know. TBMK there is no extra risk to you than if someone says tell me everything you know about the situation. Indeed there is less. If Kick asks me to disclose stuff if doing so does not get result, that reflects poorly on Kick What I am proposing above minimises the Risk for Kick who is to me (towner than) Rad. If it shuts your head. Just say it hurts my head and play. If the math is wrong i take the blame Ok? Look I put more bet on the table. | ||
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AxleGreaser
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but then I get the reward for taking the risk of showing how to play this. That is no small risk/reward as apparently this appears to not be what you expected hence common knowledge. | ||
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