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I took that vote off because it seemed like the fight between Kick and Oats was getting pretty heated and I felt that being in the middle of it was clouding who I thought was scum and who wasn't, and that possibly could have been because it was two town going at each other while scum sat back and watched, which I was evidently wrong about. I later did change my vote onto Sylencia because I still wasn't sure that either Kick or Oats were scum and so I went with what was my strongest scum read which was Sylencia at the time. As we got closer to the deadline and the possibility of a no lynch, which would reveal no new information on any players due to the lack of a flip, I realized that since Rad was going to stick with Oats, Axle kept playing his own game, and Yam kept forcing his opinion that we should get rid of Axle, if there was going to be a lynch I was going to have to abandon my not incredibly strong read on Sylencia and vote Oats. I did it for a bad reason, because Oats wasn't a particularly strong scum read for me, but I did it so that something could be gained at the end of the day that would hopefully help us find scum. | ||
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But enough of my excuses, I'm going to look through the thread right now, but is there any current topics of controversy that you guys would like me to address? | ||
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With regards to jidolboy, I don't really know, he hasn't offered a lot of to the conversation (of which I am also guilty) and his recurring quick response time to requests of his presence looks bad given how little he says. But I also think that these are more examples of an uncomfortable newb player than scum, because wouldn't scum be vocal if attention was being brought to their scumminess and be trying to sway the towns opinion away from looking at them? I think he's just new and uncomfortable but I could be wrong. I really find Axle a confusing influence on discussion in the game, I really can't say whether or not he's scum, and I think if no consensus can be reached on who is scum today, that he should be the one to go. Because honestly, he says a lot without stimulating much clearly useful discussion to finding scum. I would like some explanation on why everyone seems so comfortable calling Yamato town at this point, though. Given his behavior of solely providing one read all of D1 and saying that we were all delusional for wanting to play with Axle, it seems strange that he would abandon that viewpoint so quickly at the beginning of N1 and then finally start giving his reads on players that weren't Axle. In fact, if you look at his reasoning for voting Rad: On December 08 2012 15:39 yamato77 wrote: Yeah all my reads on the lurkers are town, even though they all show very little interest in the game. Pressure on them goes basically nowhere, either, because they don't seem dodgy or uncooperative. Axle, although sometimes incomprehensible, seems to be trying to solve the game and give us information to work with so he's probably town. You're basically confirmed town. So I guess Rad is definitely the scummiest. ##Vote Rad He only decides to pick Rad because of a feeble process of elimination, and he does not provide with us why he thinks Rad is scum, only that every one else probably isn't, and pretty much sheeps Kicks vote. Does anyone else feel like this is somewhat suspicious? Why is only now that he is trying to push anything besides the easiest scum choice? I find this really fishy, and think it reads as scum 2 trying to pull in the slack that comes from being the only scum left. So that is where my vote is going ##Vote: Yamato77. I think that the push on Rad is an easy vote because he got caught on the wrong side of the flip and that voting him is an easy thing for scum to capitalize on. | ||
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If you guys were wrong it would be the end of town and I wasn't willing to risk that, especially since the only people on the vote where the sheepiest player we have, a guy I don't trust, and someone who seems to think that he has solved game because he led a lynch on scum day one. I wasn't buying it. | ||
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On December 09 2012 12:07 yamato77 wrote: and yes, for the record, I have no problem sheeping kick at all. So you're fine with letting someone else make decisions for you so that you can sound like your on board with town without actually risking having to put your own ideas forward. You sound like a productive member of the team, that you do. | ||
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And 3 out of 7 people is not the majority of town. And I didn't tell you guys not to vote rad because A) I didn't think I(Captain Lurker) could change the minds of the guy who got the first lynch and his two nodding followers and B) I was agonizing up to the last minute on whether or not I would consolidate because I keep thinking there is the possibilty that my reads are wrong, but this time I felt like if I went and voted without thinking that there would be a 50/50 chance that that action could mean a win for scum or town. And I didn't want to make that decision. I threw my vote down on Yam because of the two people that sheeped you for that vote on Rad, his behavior has been the most inconsistent throughout the game and he hasn't had his own idea since he first went after Axle, jidol has a least been up front about it. You are being followed around by two people without any opinions themselves and feeling like you're hot shit because of it. Wake up Why do you trust Yam now, when you clearly didn't before? I really want to know, because I don't understand why everyone is talking about him like he's confirmed town. | ||
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A) thank you for editing my words to fit your point, that is fantastic investigation tactics. B) My opinion of no lynch on day one was based on the fact that we still had no new information to go on and it was the beginning of the game, which is most acceptable time for town to suffer a mislynch. I voted then to consolidate so that we could actually get the information that came with the flip instead of just twiddling our thumbs. My opinion changed D2 because the stakes were much higher, since we had already lost our doctor, and that if I voted to consolidate then it could equally result in a loss for town or scum, given the likelihood of 3 town deaths in a row based on the flip. So yes, you are correct my opinions did change over time, but because what I knew and what was at stake changed. And with regards to my attack at Yam's productivity, yes it is hypocritical of me, as it would be for you or for sylencia if either of you said it, doesn't change the fact that he's doing it to but that no one is talking about it whereas us three have been called out for it constantly. Why is no one looking at that? And I predicted I am next to be lynched because the two most vocal (not necessarily original) players have been stating that that's what they are gonna do tomorrow. I figure I'm gone anyway, I'm going to fight it if I can, I just want you all to know when I flip town who is my make for scum. | ||
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