already told you why I think you're scum.

1. you made some comment that made me think you had determined marv's alignment earlier than I'd expect you to
2. you did not consider or run with my wagon on adam, even when you claimed he was your #2 read.
3. your voting me didn't seem to have any direction with it, normally when people confront someone like that they look like they have a plan.

Palmar

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December 13 2012 00:47 GMT

#1289

This doesn't prove you're scum, just means there's a good reason you need to die.

Palmar

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December 13 2012 01:19 GMT

#1303

nah, now it's rethink time.

And you're high on the list of people that need to be thought again of.

Palmar

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December 13 2012 01:20 GMT

#1304

by you I mean clarity.

Palmar

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December 13 2012 01:24 GMT

#1306

yeah I guess.

Palmar

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December 13 2012 01:24 GMT

#1307

Let's move down the list then, VE seems like he's not done anything good all game.

Palmar

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December 13 2012 01:37 GMT

#1316

Seeing as I was wrong on Bugs I might just let someone else take the reins for now. I'm gonna check out this bluelightz case.

I recall writing something about him earlier, that he was getting away with something.

Palmar

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December 13 2012 01:41 GMT

#1319

No, I thought I was on a roll with just killing the people who were hesitant on the adam case.

Palmar

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December 13 2012 01:41 GMT

#1321

Like I'm wondering if there was some point in time where scum decided to bus adam. who joined early, who joined late etc.

Palmar

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December 13 2012 01:41 GMT

#1322

it's very late though I'm done for tonight.

Palmar

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December 13 2012 01:43 GMT

#1324

also this means bugs's reads were genuine and that I might need to look at how he seriously felt.

Palmar

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December 13 2012 01:47 GMT

#1328

It's also very legitimate that Bugs jailed Marv, seeing as he had basically decided very early marv was town.

Marv gets some relief because of how early he joined the Adam wagon, but I'm not completely sure on him. But it makes very little sense to go for him now.

Dabears is also pretty clear.

Palmar

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December 13 2012 01:49 GMT

#1329

It's worth noting that of the people that eventually did not join the Adam wagon, thrawn looks kinda towny and I'm not sure about Z-boson, however djodref looks bad.

Palmar

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December 13 2012 09:19 GMT

#1389

On December 13 2012 12:43 Hapahauli wrote:
Also, I'm really not getting any scummy vibes from Jay. Other than Adam's vote on him, there's some stuff like deliberately antagonizing Palmar (YOUR vs. YOU'RE), which seems fairly townie in context. Palmar didn't like Jay's posting, and Jay turns around and starts poking Palmar with a stick. I think scum would have more of an inclination to hide and appear diplomatic rather than antagonizing your accuser.

When did this happen?

Palmar

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December 13 2012 09:43 GMT

#1403

oh right, I thought you meant he was trolling me about misusing the words, which I never do.

I want to add this thought about Tunkeg's martyr post. Remember that if we assume he is scum, he knows bugs and I are both town, so what are the implications if I fail to stop the wagon that at the time was on him and swing it over to Adam? If he's scum he leaves a lot of things to be considered if he flips, and "opinions" on two loud town players between Bugs and I.

My initial thoughts were that if he is scum, he wouldn't dare leave such strong opinions on us, especially as I had already voiced my suspicions of Bugs, and scum calling him scum then flipping scum would probably make me rethink the issue.

I still feel the most reasonable explanation is that Tunkeg isn't scum.

Palmar

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December 13 2012 09:44 GMT

#1404

On December 13 2012 18:39 VisceraEyes wrote:
Oh a missed hit like this would only put him back on the radar huh? Like, the way you and Hapa keep attesting that anyone doubting his claim is stupid, you mean like that kind of put on the radar?

Palmar are you at least following what I'm saying?

I'm not even reading your posts.

Palmar

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December 13 2012 09:53 GMT

#1410

On December 13 2012 18:47 Djodref wrote:

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This is not true at all.
Adam flipped scum and his list post was saying that WBG was scum. It didn't change your opinion at all.

Adam and Tunkeg lists look almost the same, it's just lists fitting the general consensus.

What's up with your double standards ?

Adam's list just felt so manufactured that I ignored it. Also the timing was much worse than on Tunkeg's one.

I'm not willing to go as far as calling Tunkeg a town read, but the most reasonable explanation to everything has happened is that he's not scum. But there are other things I need to look into.

For example, do I think that two, or even three of the primary targets on day 1 (tunkeg, jay, adam) were scum? If so, what can I read into how and who pushed each wagon.