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debears
Profile Joined September 2012
United States2516 Posts
December 11 2012 03:57 GMT
#467
@Thrawn

when 3 people (you, palmar, and clarity) called me an idiot :D
debears
Profile Joined September 2012
United States2516 Posts
December 11 2012 03:58 GMT
#468
oh wait clarity i think i misread your post lol
debears
Profile Joined September 2012
United States2516 Posts
December 11 2012 13:02 GMT
#544
On December 11 2012 18:56 thrawn2112 wrote:
atm i'd rather lynch a lurker than adam


Adam is a lurker. Or at least semi lurker. Look at his filter
debears
Profile Joined September 2012
United States2516 Posts
December 11 2012 13:10 GMT
#553
On December 11 2012 21:24 Vivax wrote:
I've read Adams filter.

So basically, the case on him seems to be built on "the change of tone in his post".
That post with changed tone dabears mentioned was written one day after the last ones, so it's likely that he's writing like that cause he's not heated up like the day before.

That day, he finished into an OMGUS fight with dabears, where they basically both vote for each other cause they argue about having to vote for the people you lean scum on.
And this is where the matter stinks.

http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/viewmessage.php?topic_id=384953&currentpage=9#171

This is dabeers post about Adam. OH SHIT HE'S SUSPICIOUS CAUSE HE'S NOT VOTING FOR THRAWN.
Look at the post, look at the voting thread, look at the reactions.
Adam voted before debears upon being accused by him of not voting thrawn, meanwhile, dabears accused Adam of something he himself did.
Only clarity so far has expressed criticism of this case against Adam, now I will, too.

1.The case is shit
2.The case is shit
3.The case is shit

Being this a shit case accepted by many people, I think there's scum trying to sheep in it.


Yeah, you aren't reading the fucking thread. It wasn't about his vote
debears
Profile Joined September 2012
United States2516 Posts
December 11 2012 13:13 GMT
#555
Vivax, why are you defending someone who has a vote on you?
debears
Profile Joined September 2012
United States2516 Posts
December 11 2012 15:29 GMT
#619
On December 11 2012 23:30 Vivax wrote:
Now I remember why I said that. Debears asked me why I defend you while you're voting for me. hahahaha. The transmission of mistakes.

Well, you made a case against me, but didn't vote for me. Sup Adam?


Yeah I was like wtf I thought he did.

That is odd
debears
Profile Joined September 2012
United States2516 Posts
December 11 2012 15:37 GMT
#621
On December 12 2012 00:28 Adam4167 wrote:
Show nested quote +
On December 12 2012 00:05 Vivax wrote:
While Tunkeg's halfassedness is detrimental to town, I start doubting if scum would do it in such an obvious way. In lack of better options, I still consider him to be a valid lynch candidate along with jay (Who I've read from bugs post has a tendency to get mislynched).

While I think debears case against Adam is bad, I don't like his entrance right now. It doesn't look like he's been properly scumhunting lately, just some more half assed questions and statements. Thanks for saying you lean town on me though.

ADAM, who are you gonna vote for if you had to?



Right now, I think Tunkeg has a solid chance of flipping scum. His reaction to WBG's case was overly defensive and he's contributed very little.

Ill take a closer look in the morning. Its 2am, I am going to bed.


Wtf????

You jump from thrawn, to me, to vivax (you made a long post on vivax), and now Tunkeg (and you have said nothing about him)

This guys is scum yo
debears
Profile Joined September 2012
United States2516 Posts
December 11 2012 15:39 GMT
#623
Is anyone else seeing something very weird going on between vivax and adam??????

like really, I'm getting shivers from their interactions
debears
Profile Joined September 2012
United States2516 Posts
December 11 2012 15:41 GMT
#624
On December 11 2012 22:37 Vivax wrote:
I'm reading better than you think . I still think your case is full of shit. I see a lot of word-twisting in it.

And I don't care if Adam is voting for me as long as I believe him to be town. What kind of bad question is that.
Why are you thinking from a scum point of view?


Show nested quote +
On December 11 2012 22:10 Bluelightz wrote:
On December 11 2012 22:09 Vivax wrote:
On December 11 2012 22:06 Bluelightz wrote:

Is voting necessary when one has suspicions on someone? No. It's up to them when they vote.


By saying that you're actually defending Adam against dabears first accusations. Dunno if you even realize that.


I'm defending dabears first accusation.


Show nested quote +
On December 10 2012 11:43 debears wrote:
@Djo

The person that I don't like so far is adam. I would arguably say he has been just as, if not more, aggressive with you on thrawn. Yet, he hasn't voted him. He implied heavily that thrawn was scum, yet doesn't think he's scummy when asked directly. Furthermore, he keeps hard questioning thrawn on a response that thrawn basically said he wouldn't say (even though it seems to me that he was joking) even though he said he doesn't think thrawn is scum.

His reaction is feeling very forced


The first bolded part is what dabears himself does.
The second is word twisting of Adam saying: "If I wanted to call you scummy I would have" into "I don't think he's scummy."
And I don't see any scum motivation in hard questioning thrawn. He acted not according to his meta, and that's what made Adam so suspicious of him. How is that scummy???


Go read, Bluelightz mate.
I hope you saw the part where Debears said Adam is suspicious for not voting now.


So my guess is that you believe I'm scum?
debears
Profile Joined September 2012
United States2516 Posts
December 11 2012 15:46 GMT
#628
On December 12 2012 00:01 marvellosity wrote:
Show nested quote +
On December 11 2012 23:56 wherebugsgo wrote:
On December 11 2012 23:42 marvellosity wrote:
On December 11 2012 23:34 wherebugsgo wrote:
alright, I'm going to ignore Palmar since he somehow finds both myself and Jay scummier than Tunkeg. The fact that he thinks that makes his opinions irrelevant.

Marv-are you still willing to kill Tunkeg? Convince me why I should kill Adam over Tunkeg, and I'll consider switching my vote. Given that they're both even right now I see no reason to switch.


Aye.

Question for you - how do you generally evaluate the play of Adam/Tunkeg? (not in this game)


generally with Adam and Tunkeg if they shy away from discussion they're probably scum. A lot of the time I find that when they are town I notice when they're present and know their opinions, and when they are scum they don't say anything useful.

Take Adam and LI for example. Adam was incredibly passive and I put him on my scumlist at some point because I kept thinking, damn, Adam isn't doing anything, but no one noticed him. (I also didn't bring attention to him because I was more concerned with VE and that stupid Toad + VE shit but this is irrelevant to my point)

Adam I know for a fact is complacent and passive as scum, and that's how his play here is. I don't feel like he has made any strong posts and he doesn't seem to have anything to contribute either.

Tunkeg tends to draw attention to himself as town (usually unintentionally) by putting forth his opinions or reads or doing things that people don't like for whatever reason. I know I myself have chewed him out for doing things like that. I don't recall ever playing with him when he was scum, but I imagine that his scum play is similar to most other players lately; just really complacent and passive.




Tunkeg's play has been more useless than complacent. What I was actually getting at with my question is that in general terms I view Adam's ability to contribute productively as significantly higher than Tunkeg's. Would you agree with this? And if so, do you see where I'm going?


At this point marv, I can see both being scum.

tunkeg has done nothing, got emotional, never saying that WBG was wrong

On December 11 2012 16:06 Tunkeg wrote:
Lol WBG. In these games you are linking to, and others games like it, haven't you been the one complaining about me posting readposts like that? And also me posting "useless" questions?
And now you say the same play you labeled as bad and useless actually was scumhunting?

If you want me lynched for meta fine. But don't try to convince the thread you were a fan of my previos play.


If someone wants to lynch you for meta, and you are town, HOW IN THE FUCK ARE YOU OK WITH THAT?????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????

Adam

When has this dude seriously pushed his targets?

Thrawn - didn't think he was scummy. Just questioning him for shits and giggles
Me - Voted me for a 4 sentence "case" that was a response to a question. Backed down off me pretty quickly
Vivax - made a long post about vivax when he unvoted me. No vote on vivax. No follow up on vivax
Tunkeg - picks someone who could be an easy target for scum (if tun is town) out of nowhere. never mentioned tun the whole game until the bandwagon already started
debears
Profile Joined September 2012
United States2516 Posts
December 11 2012 15:47 GMT
#629
On December 12 2012 00:43 Palmar wrote:
Show nested quote +
On December 12 2012 00:37 debears wrote:
On December 12 2012 00:28 Adam4167 wrote:
On December 12 2012 00:05 Vivax wrote:
While Tunkeg's halfassedness is detrimental to town, I start doubting if scum would do it in such an obvious way. In lack of better options, I still consider him to be a valid lynch candidate along with jay (Who I've read from bugs post has a tendency to get mislynched).

While I think debears case against Adam is bad, I don't like his entrance right now. It doesn't look like he's been properly scumhunting lately, just some more half assed questions and statements. Thanks for saying you lean town on me though.

ADAM, who are you gonna vote for if you had to?



Right now, I think Tunkeg has a solid chance of flipping scum. His reaction to WBG's case was overly defensive and he's contributed very little.

Ill take a closer look in the morning. Its 2am, I am going to bed.


Wtf????

You jump from thrawn, to me, to vivax (you made a long post on vivax), and now Tunkeg (and you have said nothing about him)

This guys is scum yo


To be fair I don't think he ever called thrawn scum.


Exactly
debears
Profile Joined September 2012
United States2516 Posts
December 11 2012 15:48 GMT
#630
On December 12 2012 00:44 Vivax wrote:
You're starting the same shit you did with Adam, debby. I think your case against Adam was bad, that doesn't necessarily imply you're scum.

Also, I would really enjoy if people put huge quotations into spoilers, it helps in keeping the thread readable.


I'm sorry you don't make your reads clear. My bad
debears
Profile Joined September 2012
United States2516 Posts
December 11 2012 16:47 GMT
#656
On December 12 2012 01:33 marvellosity wrote:
The thing I like least about jay at the moment is where his vote is parked.

Z-Bo, what's your opinion then between Tunkeg and Djodref? Which is more likely to be scum now if you think it's unlikely it's a bus? I don't see you write anything at all on Adam, what's your read on him?


Well, here's our main prob right now marv

munk-e - promised activity, hasn't backed it up
BL - hasn't been active at all really. I realize he just made a post
VE - lol....
Tunkeg - been inactive for a while now
grush - inactive

All dese guys are problematic regardless of alignment right now

Then scumreads:
jay
Adam
tunkeg

we gots alotta problems right now
debears
Profile Joined September 2012
United States2516 Posts
December 11 2012 16:52 GMT
#663
*****To all possible inactive townies****************

Please post, make reads, start a riot, etc so that we can at least get a read off of you.

You're making this hard as shit for us fellow town members
debears
Profile Joined September 2012
United States2516 Posts
December 11 2012 17:02 GMT
#668
Am I clearly wrong?

3 others think I am right

Why are u defending adam?
debears
Profile Joined September 2012
United States2516 Posts
December 11 2012 17:36 GMT
#681
On December 12 2012 02:09 marvellosity wrote:
The likeliest would be BL could be a scum vote. But maybe not too. Who knows!


Hahaha marv <3
debears
Profile Joined September 2012
United States2516 Posts
December 11 2012 17:40 GMT
#685
Well, I like the part about WBG in Tunkeg's post if Tun actually has not played a scum game on tl.

Maybe tun is actually town after all hmmm
debears
Profile Joined September 2012
United States2516 Posts
December 11 2012 17:41 GMT
#686
On December 12 2012 02:40 VisceraEyes wrote:
I went through and filtered jay, reached a conclusion and voted. I haven't looked into Tunkeg OR Adam so Bugs and Palmar, settle the fuck down. I'm looking into them now. I agree that Adam looks bad before going to filter him, but that doesn't change the fact that right now I'm more certain of a jayb lynch.

So here's what I'm gonna do. I'm gonna go through and read the cases on Adam and Tunkeg, then I'm gonna go filter the guys. With all of that fresh in mind, along with my recent filtering/case of jayb, I'll decide who among them I feel the best about lynching, because I think those three are our best bets for a lynch based on the wagons right now.

Anyone concerned about my activity, tough titties. I'm here now, if you wanna say something, say it to my FACE!


"It"

Booooommmmmmm
debears
Profile Joined September 2012
United States2516 Posts
December 11 2012 18:47 GMT
#702
A Bluelightz lynch is looking to easy.

Clarity,

1) you want to lynch him because he posted reads. Posting reads, even rapid fire ones, is non alignment indicative
2) BL's posting, or lack thereof, has led him into the spotlight, and put him under massive pressure (unnecessary for scum to do so when they can just post once in a while to look like they are contributing)
3) Sheeping. You think your case is good, and you find him scummy cuz he sheeps you? that doesn't make sense

Also, why would a town BL consolidate and sheep onto someone probably getting lynched?

BECAUSE WE NEED 9 VOTES TO LYNCH SOMEONE AND HE WON'T BE HERE.

The worst possible outcome we could have today is a no lynch
debears
Profile Joined September 2012
United States2516 Posts
December 11 2012 18:54 GMT
#704
You really think he cares about his appearance based on his posting???? really????
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