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On December 16 2012 04:14 Vivax wrote: dis silence at night yeah. Saturday near Christmas... hectic times. Clarity, who's your #1 for tomorrow? Palmar, when are you about? | ||
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On December 16 2012 05:49 Vivax wrote: It doesn't make sense for me that Clarity shot WBG when he was suspecting jay, BL and Tunkeg before, so I prefer to not take his townieness for granted. I told you why, Clarity tends to sheep players he considers to be strong (if my experience is anything to go by). Like, he's not just a sheep because he'll disagree on stuff all the time, but when Palmar and I were pushing on bugs through night 1 it makes perfect sense to me that Clarity would follow up on our read and shoot bugs. I gave examples of Clarity sheeping me before (z-bo in mario, syllo in chrono). I'm not revisiting this topic again, in Mario for some reason town ignored my town-read on Clarity and lynched him, and here matters are even clearer with the vigi shot. If you continue down this path I'll basically consider that you're purposefully shitting up the thread, and hit you violently over the head with a cricket bat, at the very least. | ||
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On December 16 2012 06:22 Clarity_nl wrote: Can we expect a big post of analysis/reads before the night ends from you, marv? you can expect some of my reads and feelings, yes. Its length is up for debate. | ||
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On December 16 2012 08:53 Palmar wrote: Alright. just a few notes for the future. Marv really wanted this Tunkeg lynch, which was quite bad yet he pushed it hard. Don't do anything about it yet but do NOT listen to any of his reads over what I have already stated should I die tonight. He is quite possibly scum, but there's not nearly enough evidence for it yet. If marv tries to push alternative lynches to what I have said, he might be scum. Vivix is extremely disruptive to the thread, he's annoying, loud and wrong a lot. he's basically blatantly pushing mafia agenda. I don't know him, so maybe he's just an overconfident asshole, but you should know that whatever he's doing right now seems to favor the mafia pretty heavily. Bluelightz seems pretty townie to may. Do not let him get lynched tomorrow, there is absolutely no reason he should be. I was right on the Tunkeg lynch, and this is another case of me just not seeing the scum everyone is yelling about in him. Z-boson's latest post looked fairly townie to me. Even if I haven't spent much time on him this game I would probably not consider lynching him any time soon. As I've stated multiple times, Clarity is almost certainly town. There is no reason to even consider lynching him in the near future. Grush is kinda on the edge, but given that you guys must flip djodref, maybe you can get a read on him from that. I'll post about the rest of the players later. You're a dick Palmar. Of course I pushed my lynch, and it was my lynch, because I strongly thought he was scum. Enough that I convinced you to join my lynch, if you think it was 'quite bad' then you're just shit for joining the wagon. But you're not shit, and the lynch wasn't bad in any way, he just flipped the wrong colour. Anyway I might as well start with the people you've written here, and move on. Everything you say about Vivax is true, but in my eyes I think he's town. If any of you care to spare the time, go take a look at I can't believe it's not themed mafia (one of bugs) where I opposed Vivax's lynch on Day 1 for a long time based on a general meta and feel read (although I moronically let Risen convince me to vote him in the end). His play is quite characteristic of his town play, actually. There's the silly white-board/times post which also makes me think town on Vivax. In his own way he cares, he just goes about it in an ass-backwards play too often. I'm... somewhat? confident Vivax is town. Bluelightz I pretty much agree with. His demeanor and mood fits with how I see him play town. There's a particular episode in Rock Band where I first attack him, but then try for many posts to get him to care and play. How he's played here feels so similar. He's done nothing but as Palmar and I noted before he was on Adam day 1 when he didn't have to, and that combined with my feel read pushes BL to a town read for me. Z-Boson I also agree with. I periodically have had nagging doubts about Z-Bo this game but when I look at his filter I think he cares, and he interacts like I'd expect a townie too. He seems to be thinking critically about the game. Clarity town, obviously. Not saying anymore on him. grush I think is town, partly (stupidly) because of his STARSENSES!!! thing and in his own bizarre way he does seem to be making and pushing his reads. Honestly I'm not entirely sure what he'd have to do (or not do) for me to want to lynch him. thrawn is almost certainly town, the miller thing, he seems paranoid about things, I like that. I liked his z-bo case too even though I didn't agree with it. Palmar's town too. Bite me. It gets a bit iffier now for me. Hapa - the play of Munk-E is a blot in his book which is hard to ignore. His absence and vote at the end of Day 1 was just horrid. Since Hapa came in, he's kinda played this generic "pro-town" game. I can't pick particular holes in his filter, but I also can't tell you why Hapa is totes town either. Between him and my next read I think there's a scum, but I don't know which right now. jaybrundage - for some reason I've spent the most time filtering this dude this evening. I've kinda had this 'default probably town' status on jay for quite a long time. But I'm increasingly insecure about this. Practically the last 2 pages of his filter or so are basically either apoligies for not contributing, or promises to contribute in the future. That's just scummy. VE - the posts he HAS made have consistently made me lean town on this guy. His out and out dumbness on various issues (adam reads post, clarity) are strongly reminiscent of his town play. The problem is what he HASN'T posted. I'd be ok with him if in between the pants-on-head there was VE trying to figure out play. It doesn't seem that way. He could be time-constrained or whatever, but actually I respect VE enough that i expect more of SOMETHING from him and I haven't had it, so I'm thinking scum right now. Djodref - This is probably the guy you gotta hang tomorrow. After jay I've spent the most time on him and it seems like I've been finding excuses to call him town, because I like the guy :/ Palmar has said quite enough on why Djo should be lynched, and I can't actually disagree with anything he says, except for finding reasons not to lynch him. there are simply too many facets of his play that point to a scum agenda, most notably his day 1 actions regarding the adam lynch, his passive-aggressive way of dealing with Z-Bo, and his flat-out lie about his adam-debears interactions. Anyway, my other half's been bugging me to watch Fringe for half an hour, so there you have it. Turns out it was fairly big, clarity  | ||
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On December 16 2012 09:18 Vivax wrote: djo->jay->VE/clarity->win If I die before I beat into your head that Clarity isn't scum, I'm gonna be pissed. | ||
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On December 17 2012 01:15 Vivax wrote: Hasn't anyone else been wondering why the scum vigi didn't shoot during N1?And how marv got roleblocked? At work right now so can't post properly until later, but wherebugsgo was jailer. With a townread on me. And some "I love marv" post during the night that I dug up a couple days ago | ||
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On December 17 2012 01:27 Vivax wrote: I know , WBG crumbed it with that post. It's hard to tell if you told us you've been roleblocked cause you noticed that crumb or cause you're town. But the fact is, scum vigi didn't shoot that night. I also excluded the possibility of a VE team saving that shot to blame it on clarity, since clarity told about the shot after deadline. I don't understand what you're saying. I told you I was roleblocked because I was told I was roleblocked, unless you think bugs mysteriously jailed no-one? | ||
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On December 16 2012 21:46 thrawn2112 wrote: oh hi palmar, i'm glad you agree On December 16 2012 22:10 thrawn2112 wrote: boson bl and hapa not interested in a jay or vivax lynch, my feelings towards them are sorta similar to how I felt thinking about the tunkeg lynch Firstly thrawn, don't do this. You invoke Palmar to support the Djo lynch, and then in the next post you include two people Palmar thought were town. It's not too important but don't cherrypick to support the idea(s) you currently have. Really though, that's not the interesting thing for today. The two most interesting people today are Hapahauli and jaybrundage. On December 16 2012 10:09 Hapahauli wrote: Way to fight the good fight guys ##Vote VisceraEyes Hurray, let's kill VE! What's the buildup to this? Last time Hapa mentions VE, he was talking to me about it, and at the time we were both agreeing that we were leaning town on VE: On December 14 2012 12:38 Hapahauli wrote: Aw that was too quick =( Nah I thought you were doing the whole "VE is being VE" thing. But good to know we're on the same page. During the resolution period, Palmar and I were dumping our full reads like bosses. What was hapa doing? On December 16 2012 10:02 Hapahauli wrote: I'd read dump, but I don't have much to add to what Palmar had said. I'm still much more hesitant on Djo however. VE will probably be my lynch target of choice if I'm alive. Hapa's just too lazy to bother giving reads to town. And now miraculously VE is hapa's lynch target. So out of nowhere, VE goes from "leaning town" to "primary lynch target". What the fuck? Ask yourselves, what has Hapa been DOING these past few days? He's been townie on Djodref, somewhat town on VE, scummy on BL - and now we have this conjuring trick where VE is #1 lynch choice all of a sudden. Hapa has been coasting along and now he's conveniently changing targets. This dude be scum. On to jaybrundage. Let's have a look here. This guy has been getting along for ages on a pass from players like me and Palmar. As the game goes on, it's looking like a pretty convenient trick: On December 14 2012 06:43 jaybrundage wrote: Hey guys Best Mislynch NA here. (Is it something to brag about? Nope. Do I give a fuck? Nope.) -snip- Hi guys! I'm such an easy mislynch! I'm totally going to be sarcastic about it in brackets though! On December 14 2012 06:44 jaybrundage wrote: ^ These are the kinda posts that make people wanna mislynch me I'm totes an easy mislynch. Don't lynch me guys! <33333 On December 15 2012 09:18 jaybrundage wrote: Sorry guys for not being here. I threw my vote for tunkeg as we already have 7 on it, and to stop a last minute vote change. Im like 250 posts behind catching up now. The whole of day 2 goes by and he votes for Tunkeg... to avoid voting shenannies. We can extrapolate then that he basically doesn't have a firm opinion to give. that's pretty much the whole of day 2 we can wipe off his slate for actually doing something then. Of course jay appreciates that he's done jack shit, but he will definitely help going forwards: On December 15 2012 16:08 jaybrundage wrote: I understand that I didnt help town for yesterday. I had alot of stuff on my plate. I still have some catching up to do threadwise. But ill try to push my reads, and try to be more active. Sorry guys. I'm glad jay is finally making use of his status: On December 16 2012 08:06 jaybrundage wrote: I would be down for a djo lynch. On December 16 2012 14:17 jaybrundage wrote: I support a Djodref lynch. On December 16 2012 14:22 jaybrundage wrote: ##Vote Djodref Nice job there. jay managed to 'look town' to some of us here during day 1, and has basically ridden that all the way through the game. There's constant admissions that he's not doing anything, promises to do more... but we never actually get anything. Scum again. Right now then I'm looking at Djodref, Hapahauli. jaybrundage. Thoughts guys? | ||
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thrawn, can you comment on the relevant shit (i.e. the stuff I've written)? | ||
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Vivax, you're a fucking idiot. | ||
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On December 17 2012 08:17 Hapahauli wrote: Well marv, dunno what to say. I am pretty lazy right now. Final tomorrow, and most of my attention is going to another game. Are you not even going to attempt to explain yourself? | ||
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On December 17 2012 08:24 Hapahauli wrote: Oh, also you're not reading my filter apparently, because you're glossing over some of my posts on VE. You said my vote on VE came out of nowhere, but you missed this: http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/viewmessage.php?topic_id=384953¤tpage=97#1925 That took me 15 seconds to find. What gives marv? You were planning to ask him a question. I'm supposed to extrapolate a read from this? Forgive me. It goes: VE leaning town - gonna ask him a question - primary lynch target. That's much better. ... | ||
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On December 17 2012 08:29 Hapahauli wrote: Leaning town on VE initially Asked him a question about something rather scummy in his filter Change my mind on VE when a) VE doesn't respond and b) Palmar (who knows his meta far more than I do) thinks he's "sure to be scum" Then I voted VE. Don't see what's wrong with that so you're sheeping and abandoning your previous scumread on day 3 based on an unanswered question? ok. | ||
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