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/awaiting-further-signups-to-decide-if-I'd-rather-play-this-or-replace-into-Chrono | ||
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Also hello friends. BH I'm the doctor bish not you. | ||
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Also hi guys I'm town. | ||
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You have a penchant for utilizing vocabulary beyond my reading comprehension dear. I like it. | ||
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For anyone who hasn't played with him before, Ace is going to pop in about twice or thrice a cycle. He's not going to try and lead anyone. He's also not going to FOLLOW anyone. He's going to play Mafia. If he's scum, he's going to fucking own us. If he's town, he's going to be right but will probably lose because he can't stand people not playing on his level and will lose interest. That about sum it up sir? So let's just drop the topic of Ace as he's made all of what...1 one-liner post? We'll resume discussion of the man once he throws some content up in this piece. dabears, I'm more interested in you damning DYH for having an opinion on Ace. The guy doesn't even HAVE any posts to discredit, so why are you so concerned about him trying to do so this early anyway? Do you know something I don't about Ace's alignment? That's the only thing that's jumped out at me so far - everything else is chaff and while I don't necessarily mind it, it's certainly not helping anyone find scum (happy Bugs?) I'm going to bed guys. | ||
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On December 01 2012 02:33 Lazermonkey wrote: To be frank, I do think almost everyone are more willingly to sheep players who are considered to be stronger rather than newbies even if they deny it. At least to some extent. I think it's a part of your subconscious. Truth. Something to do with pack mentality, wanting to fit in, etc. etc. Reading what I've missed y'all, hopefully there's more than discussing whether or not people are going to sheep Ace. :/ | ||
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Everyone scared or something? Ace care to share with the class? | ||
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Frankly I don't care about further explanation from dabears regarding this whole mess. I think he's said enough. The whole exchange between dabears and DYH is ridiculous in my opinion. People don't SHEEP Ace because he's known almost exclusively for his SCUM play. I've seen him really fucking own as town, but people don't know or care about that. Ace is known as a top-tier SCUM player, and so that's the image Ace conjures. The fact that dabears is all up in arms about DYH "discrediting" Ace is nonsense...not only had Ace barely posted anything at the time, but DYH explained his motivation TWICE and dabears still didn't relent, or verily even acknowledge said explanations. Also this post rings scumbells for me. On November 30 2012 10:39 debears wrote: Actually marv I have a slight town read on you Ok guys I looked up Marv's previous games for games where he says he is town early on. He has not done in his last few games as scum. He has done it twice as town What does this mean? Something so small as saying you are town is most likely a subconscious thing. Sure, marv could have decided to do it this game, but it was right at game start. No one else had said anything like it Boom look at that pro analysis. Links in the spoiler + Show Spoiler + http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/viewmessage.php?topic_id=381440&user=140487 Town. Here is Mario Mini Mafia, Marv does not make any mention of being town http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/postmessage.php?quote=239&topic_id=382922 Town. Here marv states his posting is pro town, but does not call himself town in chrono trigger http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/viewmessage.php?topic_id=376602&user=140487 Scum. Here marv does not state town in his scum game is GSL http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/viewmessage.php?topic_id=363625&user=140487 Scum. Death note- no mention of being town when marv is scum http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/viewmessage.php?topic_id=352668&user=140487 Town. States he is outright town Like...I don't know if it was meant to be a joke, but I think I know EXACTLY when marv started saying he's town at the outset of games, and it had nothing to do with his alignment at the time. Yet he's trying to pass off this post as some sort of actual analysis of marv's play? Simply by calling it analysis? Give me a break. Let's just kill it with fire, yeah? | ||
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Dabears, meta isn't about people making specific posts as specific alignments, that shit is so fucking easy to fake. How about YOU read up on meta and then come and talk to me about it. | ||
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Since Xata's stance on me has gone from "nothing decisive" to decisive enough to vote, I suppose I should respond to the accusations. + Show Spoiler + On December 01 2012 03:51 Xatalos wrote: One player I find suspicious is VisceraEyes. He hasn't been merely trolling or lurking, but rather posting pseudo-productive posts that make him look somewhat active - without actually accomplishing anything. This playstyle in between useless and useful is the one I'm always suspicious of. This post does actually have a point about debears... But VisceraEyes doesn't pursue it anyhow, just points it out (like some other players did) and never speaks of it again. The rest is pretty much safe-to-say meaningless fluff. A quite unnecessary and forgettable post. Actually an "original" topic, but yet again safe to say and not really that productive. Feels like something Mafia might say to look like they're doing something, while actually not doing anything. I also dislike how none of his posts are connected... It's like he's posting the minimum required amount and avoiding commitment to anything. Overall, nothing decisive, but all of this leaves an uneasy feeling about VE for me. His major problem with my play is that he thinks that I'm being productive but not really? That's pretty meaningless coming from a guy who's only act is to vote for someone based on outdated (I ninja'd him, not really his fault) information and defending himself. Considering the fact that this is D1, and considering the amount of content that is (not) in the thread, I think I've done a fair amount of scumhunting. He cites my questioning Ace as "something Mafia might say to appear helpful without really accomplishing anything." Except, it's only that way because Ace hasn't responded to my inquiry, so that's really out of my control. Further, it discounts the (true) motivation of "Maybe he's just curious about a suspicious vote with no reasoning and wants clarification" Also, I'd like to hear what's "bandwagon-y" about my vote on debears. First of all, I'm like...the second vote on the guy? Third? I'd argue that marv's no-reason vote is more "bandwagon-y", but whatever. I define "bandwagon-y" in a different way I guess. Bandwagon-y wouldn't include reasoning. Bandwagon-y would be like "Welp, everyone else is voting this guy, guess I better hop on the bandwagon." You know....as the made-up word implies? But it wasn't. I gave reasoning for my vote. | ||
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 Sowwy. | ||
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What do you make of Xata's case on me? How did he go from "nothing decisive" to a vote after his statement about me not following up on debears was proven patently false the moment he hit submit on the first post? | ||
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You got anything other than "Yeah what Ace said"....which is nothing btdubz. | ||
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SCUM WON LI BY THE WAY | ||
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Did you find nothing in the debears/Shaoi/DYH interaction? | ||
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On December 01 2012 11:50 debears wrote: only 4 posts in day 1 though....none of quality :/ Depends on your definition of quality. His observation of Lazer was pretty accurate, if a little hypocritical. However, town and scum are hypocritical in equal measure, so that's pretty null imo. | ||
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Which was my point. | ||
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On December 01 2012 11:48 VisceraEyes wrote: Verily, simply sheeped in the case of Bugs...pushing the blame/credit onto Marv. And this is where his vote remains. Did you find nothing in the debears/Shaoi/DYH interaction? To be fair, I assumed you knew I was talking to you, considering the context. I know Shaoi disappeared yesterday, but the debears/DYH thing ended up drawing in marv and resulted in a vote - whom you'd said you were watching later on in the post I was referring to. I also voted for dabears (based on other stuff) who you also mentioned. | ||
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##Unvote ##Vote: Xatalos Enough is enough. Xatalos is either scum hiding inside a tunnel or really really bad town. Considering the way he posts, I'm ruling out town. | ||
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And instead of posting about my other suspicions as I wanted to do, now I'm forced to ARGUE WITH YOU ABOUT WHY I'M NOT FUCKING VOTING FOR YOU! | ||
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:/ MARV COME HERE I WANT YOU | ||
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On December 02 2012 05:12 austinmcc wrote: Why exactly are you voting Xatalos? He's scum hiding inside a tunnel = he's doing nothing but tunneling someone as a way to look active when he's doing nothing? That's the idea, but honestly I concede that it could just be emotion clouding my judgement. Having gone over some filters, I'm less inclined to lynch Xata because A) he's more active than over half the game, and B) in spite of his primary target being a townie, he's saying other things I agree with. I'm MORE inclined to lynch Dandel, as his posting has been terrible, and he's done literally nothing. And he's not even like, absent - he's got about a page of filter inside the game (non-pre-game) and I don't like any of it. Shiao is.......I want to wait on Shiao. At least a day. Maybe tomorrow. I'm not really reading Shiao as scum right now. debears is doing enough and contributing enough to earn a day as well. Blazinghand is....very Blazinghand this game. Honestly, I don't like what I'm seeing. The whole "Here's a case...NEVERMIND IT'S BAD" doesn't read very scum-like, but the rest of his filter does. I could lynch Blazinghand today. I did NOT filter DP, as his activity rang town to me for some reason. I'll go take a look. As it stands, I'm willing to lynch inside [Zealos, Dandel, Blazinghand] today. In that order. ##Unvote ##Vote: Zealos | ||
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I'm gonna go do a votecount real quick hold up | ||
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Ace, are you switching to marv? Because I'll join you on BH if not. Regardless, I'm going to read up on DP right now. | ||
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##Vote: DarthPunk Darth isn't caring about town this game. He's not even coming at anyone, which is like, a DP staple. Marv's claim is....a claim. I don't want to lynch a claimed blue D1...not with my karma. | ||
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##Vote: DoYouHas Let's do this. | ||
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I'm going to play IRL mafia with friends. I'll probably be back later tonight, but I make no promises as to my state of mind. | ||
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2) Blazinghand, why was marv fake-claiming scum when votes were on him, but "gets a check tonight" now that he's not lynched? 3) Bugs and Ace, I'm intrigued by your ideas and I wish to subscribe to your newsletter. | ||
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On December 03 2012 06:51 sandroba wrote: @VE anything would like to add? I must say you didn't make an impact at all in the game and I only noticed you were playing after rereading the thread. What's your stance on DYH/BH after this quick switch and the late claim? On December 02 2012 08:29 VisceraEyes wrote: We should have just lynched Blazinghand. I'm going to play IRL mafia with friends. I'll probably be back later tonight, but I make no promises as to my state of mind. After the day post, we'll see what's up with DYH. Maybe he gets roleblocked. Maybe he gets killed. Maybe he's fakeclaiming scum. Blue claims tend to work themselves out. Same goes for marv in that respect. If he's still alive, we should lynch BH tomorrow hands down. | ||
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I was one of the people involved in the final vote-switch shenanigans, and I've been pretty vocal about my opinions all game. My activity might not be as high as many are used to, but verily that's a common theme in all of my recent games. Either he's lying and didn't read as closely as he lets on, or he's genuinely missed my part in this game so far. Either way, I'm excited to see A) if he's still alive after the daypost and B) what he has to contribute if he lives. So far regurgitating what's been said about BH and calling me out for activity isn't floating my boat, so I'm keeping an eye on him. For what it's worth, I believe Marv's claim. I think Bugs is town, and I think Zealos is scum. If for whatever reason BH isn't the lynch tomorrow, I agree with Zealos as a target. | ||
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