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Keirathi
Profile Joined May 2012
United States4679 Posts
December 04 2012 22:05 GMT
#1481
On December 05 2012 07:03 debears wrote:
I want the legit crumbs from you guys

I don't crumb as mason.

I just leave a Will for my partner to share if/when I die. Check Newbie XXII.
My dear friend if I have gone pants on head, you have gone socks on ears!!! -ShiaoPi
DoYouHas
Profile Joined November 2008
United States1140 Posts
December 04 2012 22:05 GMT
#1482
They are both believable claims.
Guts? Determination? $5?
Lazermonkey
Profile Joined June 2011
Sweden2176 Posts
December 04 2012 22:06 GMT
#1483
Maybe we should just kill ShaioPi then?
Keirathi
Profile Joined May 2012
United States4679 Posts
December 04 2012 22:06 GMT
#1484
On December 05 2012 07:04 Blazinghand wrote:
also yes I briefly forgot mrz wad my madon d1

So you made a case against your own mason partner?
My dear friend if I have gone pants on head, you have gone socks on ears!!! -ShiaoPi
debears
Profile Joined September 2012
United States2516 Posts
December 04 2012 22:06 GMT
#1485
This whole situation is fucked lol
Keirathi
Profile Joined May 2012
United States4679 Posts
December 04 2012 22:06 GMT
#1486
On December 01 2012 10:06 Blazinghand wrote:
WBG and Gentlemen, we have our first obvious scum in the thread. That fellow is MrZ. I'm about to show you how not only is he scum from the perspective of a reasonable townie, but how he is in fact not playing as he always does as town.

Here's my analysis of MrZ's town play:
In DMM after his admittedly initial troll post (link) he's questioning aggressive (even towards Palmar (link)) and does NOT back down due to Palmar's responses (link). He doesn't waste posts on fluff or really anything except pushing his Palmar read. Town MrZ also has strong opinions about how to read trolling-- he thinks it's not null, but can in fact be scum motivated (link) which is in contradiction to his attitude this game (link).

In EMM he begins again without making a case, focusing on the VE claim that game (link), but within 24 hours has voted for ghost (link) and is bull-headed about his read, trying to pull other people onto his wagon (link), and interacting with his town-reads in an attempt to find a better wagon (link)

What do we know about MrZ?
Well, he's utterly unafraid of calling out players for being scummy, or for trolling. His only use for other people is to bully them to get onto his wagons, unless he develops a strong townread on one. He's aggressive, but focused, and although he's not super convincing he has conviction and as soon as he really shows up in the thread (beyond an opening post) he comes out with strong reads and a case. He will call people out, defend strong town reads (occasionally) and he really only listens to others when he has a strong town read on them. MrZ is not a player who trolls, takes the game lightly, or really does anything other than push his scum reads. He looks down on trolling and says it can be scummy.

MrZ is scum
This is nothing like the MrZ we've seen this game, who has in fact been in the thread for at least an hour and a half (over a day ago) and has failed to produce typical MrZ results. Now, I know MrZ likes to fool around a bit before his initial case, but he rarely bases his initial case on more than a couple posts from his target. He doesn't afraid of anyone, not even Vets. So where has he been this game? Why is MrZ acting so unlike himself?

It'd be one thing if MrZ wasn't in the thread-- he's notable for being absent from the thread for decent amounts of time. But when MrZ does show up, he makes cases, and he backs the shit up out of them. He defends his cases, even when they're brief-- and his cases always EXIST. Even in EMM, his pre-case posts are focused on the town discussion and are attempting to give a read.

His posts in this game show none of his aggressive stands against trolling, and the amount of time he spent in this thread would be spent by a town MrZ to make a case, or at least contribute to the discussion, even in its infancy.

Contrast his stance on trolling in DMM:
Show nested quote +
On September 01 2012 08:27 MrZentor wrote:
On September 01 2012 08:20 HiroPro wrote:
On September 01 2012 08:18 Risen wrote:
On September 01 2012 08:15 HiroPro wrote:
On September 01 2012 08:14 strongandbig wrote:
On September 01 2012 08:03 Palmar wrote:
##vote mementoss


##vote palmar

Like, the number of times people have told me that "being lazy" is palmar's scum meta...

I can't really accept missing the whole first day and then jumping back in with the most random freaking unreasoned explicit sheep vote I've ever seen.

I'm not really concerned at the moment with "viable candidates". I don't think any of the main cases are stronger than my gut reaction to what palmar just did.

If this is "a trap" palmar, then consider yourself successful, you caught me. By playing as scummy as possible, you trapped me and convinced me that you are scum. Huzzah.

Now, I'm going to bed. See you guys tomorrow if I live.


town Palmar.....

LIV


Hiro read what I just posted. Scum Palmar would want you to think just that. Then again, maybe it's town Palmar being town Palmar. Who knows?

He's doing it because he can, because in the past he's been able to get away with bad play like this. People like you enable him to have free reign in games, regardless of alignment.


I am not lynching the best scumhunter in this game because he likes to troll d1. We lynch him later if he doesn't find scum, not because we don't like the way he plays.


No.

If somebody acts like mafia, they get lynched.

I'm not going to delay the lynching of a mafia, just because you're afraid of lynching a veteran.


To his stance here:

Show nested quote +
On November 30 2012 08:54 MrZentor wrote:
On November 30 2012 08:47 Xatalos wrote:
The beginning of this game is quite... different... from newbie games Trolling seems to be the norm. Somehow I just don't like making yourself artificially harder to read. It's kind of like a selfish metagame plan to confuse other players - not to help your team. What's the point in establishing yourself as a null read? Except denying meaningful information from scumhunting?


People assume that if you're too uptight, you're mafia, so the first few pages are always just spam created by people trying to out-relax each other.

So have some fun!!


Something is different-- and that something is MrZ. He rolled scum this game.

It's not in the lurking, for MrZ is if nothing else is a lurker. It is in how he has spent his time in-thread. This is unlike any MrZ I've ever known.

##unvote
##vote MrZentor


come at me bro



Remember this, guys?
My dear friend if I have gone pants on head, you have gone socks on ears!!! -ShiaoPi
MrZentor
Profile Joined December 2010
United States1648 Posts
December 04 2012 22:07 GMT
#1487
Yeah we're masons.

Ever wondered BH was my top read or why my opinions suddenly changed?

That's right; we're masons buddies, and I love BH.

<3 Now kill Bugs and Keirathi
Falling’s just like flying, except there’s a more permanent destination.
debears
Profile Joined September 2012
United States2516 Posts
December 04 2012 22:07 GMT
#1488
I find 4 masons so unlikely. I mean come on, we have to lynch one out of the four.....otherwise we have 4 guys with unverified claims

And that would make 5 power roles if DYH is SK, 6 is DYH is Vig

D:
Lazermonkey
Profile Joined June 2011
Sweden2176 Posts
December 04 2012 22:07 GMT
#1489
On December 05 2012 07:06 Keirathi wrote:
Show nested quote +
On December 05 2012 07:04 Blazinghand wrote:
also yes I briefly forgot mrz wad my madon d1

So you made a case against your own mason partner?
WTF this does not make sense, explain yourself BH?
debears
Profile Joined September 2012
United States2516 Posts
December 04 2012 22:07 GMT
#1490
##Vote WBG
MrZentor
Profile Joined December 2010
United States1648 Posts
December 04 2012 22:08 GMT
#1491
Remember how BH made a case against me then retracted it instantly?

That was him being stupid, then after posting it realizing I was masoned with him.

XD
Falling’s just like flying, except there’s a more permanent destination.
debears
Profile Joined September 2012
United States2516 Posts
December 04 2012 22:08 GMT
#1492
Shit. I guess I never actually unvoted WBG correctly anyways
debears
Profile Joined September 2012
United States2516 Posts
December 04 2012 22:08 GMT
#1493
It would also explain why BH didn't want to lynch uncontested claims d1
Xatalos
Profile Joined January 2011
Finland9675 Posts
December 04 2012 22:08 GMT
#1494
WHAT. THE. HECK. This game gets crazier every passing moment. Seriously, Blazinghand, how could you try to get your Mason partner lynched? There isn't even a shred of logic in that.
"The opportunity to secure ourselves against defeat lies in our own hands, but the opportunity of defeating the enemy is provided by the enemy himself." - Sun Tzu
Lazermonkey
Profile Joined June 2011
Sweden2176 Posts
December 04 2012 22:09 GMT
#1495
On December 05 2012 07:08 MrZentor wrote:
Remember how BH made a case against me then retracted it instantly?

That was him being stupid, then after posting it realizing I was masoned with him.

XD
I'm not sure I'm buying this...
Keirathi
Profile Joined May 2012
United States4679 Posts
December 04 2012 22:09 GMT
#1496
So when WBG flips mason, can we please lynch BH tomorrow?
My dear friend if I have gone pants on head, you have gone socks on ears!!! -ShiaoPi
MrZentor
Profile Joined December 2010
United States1648 Posts
December 04 2012 22:09 GMT
#1497
Once we kill Bugs, we'll win. WOOT WOOT GO TOWN
Falling’s just like flying, except there’s a more permanent destination.
debears
Profile Joined September 2012
United States2516 Posts
December 04 2012 22:10 GMT
#1498
The way I see it at this point. We are gonna either trade

2 masons for 2 scum
1 mason for 2 scum

I don't really mind those trades
debears
Profile Joined September 2012
United States2516 Posts
December 04 2012 22:10 GMT
#1499
Considering we already got 1 scum
MrZentor
Profile Joined December 2010
United States1648 Posts
December 04 2012 22:10 GMT
#1500
On December 05 2012 07:05 Keirathi wrote:
Show nested quote +
On December 05 2012 07:03 debears wrote:
I want the legit crumbs from you guys

I don't crumb as mason.

I just leave a Will for my partner to share if/when I die. Check Newbie XXII.


lolololololol I was right about you and Bugs being scum partners. XD

WOOT WOOT WOOT
Falling’s just like flying, except there’s a more permanent destination.
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