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On December 02 2012 05:29 Xatalos wrote:Show nested quote +On December 02 2012 05:25 marvellosity wrote:
because I think DP has a higher chance of flipping scum than any of those players for reasons i just gave. I think you're putting too much weight into metagames. I'd say it's better to lynch someone who is acting scummy in the thread than someone who might be playing according to his scum meta (or not). You guessed my alignment correctly once when I was Mafia and you were observing based on meta, but meta shouldn't be the only or even primary tool of playing.
don't tell me how to play.
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On December 02 2012 05:31 wherebugsgo wrote:Show nested quote +On December 02 2012 05:30 marvellosity wrote:On December 02 2012 05:27 wherebugsgo wrote:
Explain why DP is scummier than Zealos.
Also everything you just said is not backed up by any evidence. I took a completely different interpretation from my reading of DP's posts in past games. Why don't you actually provide some evidence for your claims, since the burden of proof is on you to establish why DP is scum? ?? the only thing that isn't apparent from reading his filter or the thread is what I consider his town/scum tells to be. Come up with some comparisons of his play here to play in past games that actually show what you're saying. So far you just seem like you're full of shit, since I can't see what you're talking about. Prove me wrong or I'll start gunning to kill you, since your reasons so far all game have been god awful.
coming from the cesspool of shite that is you, that's rich.
fuck off, bugs.
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On December 02 2012 05:35 wherebugsgo wrote:Show nested quote +On December 02 2012 05:32 marvellosity wrote:On December 02 2012 05:31 wherebugsgo wrote:On December 02 2012 05:30 marvellosity wrote:On December 02 2012 05:27 wherebugsgo wrote:
Explain why DP is scummier than Zealos.
Also everything you just said is not backed up by any evidence. I took a completely different interpretation from my reading of DP's posts in past games. Why don't you actually provide some evidence for your claims, since the burden of proof is on you to establish why DP is scum? ?? the only thing that isn't apparent from reading his filter or the thread is what I consider his town/scum tells to be. Come up with some comparisons of his play here to play in past games that actually show what you're saying. So far you just seem like you're full of shit, since I can't see what you're talking about. Prove me wrong or I'll start gunning to kill you, since your reasons so far all game have been god awful. coming from the cesspool of shite that is you, that's rich. fuck off, bugs. so your response to me questioning your case is to get pissy and tell me to fuck off? Cool, you went from "probably town" to "probably scum" in a matter of 5 minutes. Prepare your anus for the tunneling you're about to receive.
bring it...
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On December 02 2012 06:11 debears wrote:
##Unvote Dandel
##Vote Marv
I want to see your meta read marv. I've played with DP twice and the times he is town he goes aggro on someone. I found him scum d1 in Acme because of how uninvolved he was
It's very hard to explain a feel meta-read on a guy. Bear in mind I've pretty much coached/hosted/played in every single game he's played in if I recall.
Town tells I pick up on his play are when he's lighthearted in the middle of otherwise serious discussions.
+ Show Spoiler +On November 13 2012 11:33 DarthPunk wrote:
Lol marv scolding me is super cute. On November 13 2012 15:57 DarthPunk wrote:
Holy shit after reading BH's case on ZB I thought he was Austin for a moment. 0_o On November 13 2012 09:44 DarthPunk wrote:
HI ZB <3.
Yeah ZB will figure me out If I am scum, and Vice Versa. Hapa will figure marv out and marv will figure everyone out.
GG scummers On October 22 2012 00:36 DarthPunk wrote:Show nested quote +On October 22 2012 00:33 Z-BosoN wrote:
@DP
I have to go with marv here. This is something he is usually very strong on, from my talks with him - and he's generally right. He will also make this assessment as both town and scum, so it's pretty sure he means it (unless for some 0.005% ungodly reason they are both scum and marv told him to say something like that or w/e).
Scum are 10x more careful about what they say, even if they are new. Remember XXVIII? Almost everyone had some sort of flip-flop looking scummy relation with kush, except for the actual scum.
Anyways, I'm null leaning townie on drazak, and I don't think we should be voting for him, at least right now. If I am right I am going to obnoxiously ungraceful about it. ^_^ On October 22 2012 00:47 DarthPunk wrote:Show nested quote +On October 22 2012 00:41 marvellosity wrote:
Z-Bo, I love that you're wary of me and then you conclude your post with the two reads I had. Woe is me ^_^ If your alive day 2 we'll all be more than wary. Or scum could have been retarded and not shot you. But yeah. Better lynch you then anyway just to be safe. ROFL..
Other than the initial phase of trolling, I've not seen that here.
On Day 1s DP is also less aggressive than he's inclined to be as scum. More constructive, like I said. Look at his attitude here as town:
+ Show Spoiler +On October 21 2012 09:11 DarthPunk wrote:
OK. It was a passing comment. Not a plan. And the reasoning I gave was not the primary motive for the comment. The primary motive was to just throw something out there and stimulate discussion. Mission Successful I guess. The reasoning I gave was the motive behind asking Role over just alignment.
People say that my reasoning is bad/ illogical. Fine. I disagree. But either way that you look at it, it was clearly town motivated.
That being said I, like others, Tend to believe at least one scum used that situation to hide and fake contribute in. Hapa's meta read aside. I find Drazak's actions difficult to reconcile with a townie mind set.
He jumped all to easily on perfections wagon and seemed to actually believe I was scum. Then when pressured, played it off as meaningless and stimulating discussion. Then when the pressure was back on me I am scum again.
He is all too obvious in moving with the sway of the thread rather than having his own beliefs and sticking to them/trying to convince others.
Furthermore. He dropped a vote that may/ may not have been in order to stimulate discussion parks it there and disappears. which is VERY silly in light of the lynch mechanics.
On October 21 2012 21:26 DarthPunk wrote:
Wow. I really suck at constructing sentences this late/ always. I hope you can understand WTF I am saying. On October 21 2012 21:28 DarthPunk wrote:
For clarity.
Keirs play this game is similar to his early Liquid City play.
If his play doesn't improve as it did in that game I would take a closer look at him.
If I had to pick between a Keir Lynch and a V7 lynch I would lynch V7. On October 21 2012 22:02 DarthPunk wrote:
Heh. I guess I should take another look. On October 21 2012 23:36 DarthPunk wrote:Show nested quote +On October 21 2012 23:30 marvellosity wrote:
Your vote on drazak is predicated on something I don't think is lynchable for though, DP.
austin explained it well enough earlier. Really? I think voting for someone you think is town is a lynchable offense, The only reason that he is not getting lynched is that he is new and people are giving him the benefit of the doubt IMO. I think Drazak is scum. I am not sure Keir is. On October 21 2012 23:53 DarthPunk wrote:
I apologise if my posting is bad/unclear I am pulling an all nighter to get my assignment in on time. And I am super tired.
Also remember in Mario he was quite apologetic for quite a while about being absent and busy, and was only later in the day he started getting aggressive as he felt he might get lynched.
Here he viciously attacks Lazermonkey (oh by the way, also in the quotes above are how he deals with scumreads day 1 - he's not sure!). Having treeated Xatalos 'protectively' he lays into Lazer and after shouting at him a lot finally says that he's not going to bother dealing with him anymore.
DP feels much more confident unilaterally calling things shit or retarded day 1 as scum because he knows people's alignments and he knows how the game is running and he has some sense of control. Unlike when he's town when on one hand he firmly believes in his reads but at the same time recognises that his reads are often wrong, and so he interacts with the town more on them.
Town DP I know doesn't call the whole town retarded when town is actually working to try to get somewhere.
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On December 02 2012 05:48 wherebugsgo wrote:
Indeed he just tried to use a position of authority on DP ("I got his alignment right before" bullshit) instead of actually furthering his case with evidence. When I asked for evidence that supports his claims, he just told me to fuck off. It's clear he's full of hot air and is just a scum flailing around trying to make accusations stick. His accusation on me clearly didn't stick after his half-assed shitty "contradiction" case. It was clear to anyone who was reading the thread that I am not scum, and only the bandwagon-happy and lazy players actually agreed with him.
bugs, you're so silly. 'clear to everyone'.
Not clear at all, get off your high horse.
Pray tell me, why was it 'clear' you were not scum? What shining beacons of townplay had you brought forth?
Hmm, dear?
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On December 02 2012 06:31 Xatalos wrote:
Now it's between Zealos and marvellosity? Zealos should be the clear choice among these players. marvellosity has been very active, Zealos has not. marvellosity has argued and shared his reads, Zealos has bandwagoned (unconvincingly). I don't get this sudden turnaround. I don't really get marvellosity's complete trust in his meta reads either, but he's been succesful with it in earlier games, so I can't blame him for that. At the very least his active posting style will sooner or later lead to his demise if he is somehow Mafia. That's not the case for someone who stays out of the spotlight like Zealos.
DP has 3 votes, can you read? :/
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if DYH does not come back in time for the lynch, I will be disappointed
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On December 02 2012 06:33 Ace wrote:
So the case on Zealos is inactivity?
what's yours on me?
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On December 02 2012 06:36 MrZentor wrote:
Sorry buddy.
"acting weird" is not a reason.
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I am Detective
now fuck off all of you.
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now can we kill DP and lynch some scum already.
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On December 02 2012 06:40 Blazinghand wrote:
Welp
##unvote
##vote DP
you're fucking awful by the way. fucking awful.
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On December 02 2012 06:41 Blazinghand wrote:Show nested quote +On December 02 2012 06:40 marvellosity wrote:On December 02 2012 06:40 Blazinghand wrote:
Welp
##unvote
##vote DP you're fucking awful by the way. fucking awful. ;_;
just jump on my wagon for no reason at all.
if i hadn't seen you play absolutely atrociously in mario, voting people you said were town, i'd think you were scum
as it is, you're just awful.
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On December 02 2012 06:41 Ace wrote:
You know I was getting a little worried about the quick votes onto you marv.
But with over an hour left and you not even really convincing people not to lynch you but others instead - a last minute detective role claim in that manner is poor. Not buying it.
And to think I was this close to unvoting you.
that's because no-one will make a case on me, idiot
what else am i supposed to do than convince people to vote somone i think is scum?
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On December 02 2012 06:44 Ace wrote:Show nested quote +On December 02 2012 06:42 marvellosity wrote:On December 02 2012 06:41 Ace wrote:
You know I was getting a little worried about the quick votes onto you marv.
But with over an hour left and you not even really convincing people not to lynch you but others instead - a last minute detective role claim in that manner is poor. Not buying it.
And to think I was this close to unvoting you. that's because no-one will make a case on me, idiot what else am i supposed to do than convince people to vote somone i think is scum? try harder
try being better.
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On December 02 2012 06:49 Ace wrote:
Well that attitude along with the attitude you've shown since the start makes my vote stay. I'd think someone that was really a detective knowing people were voting for them would at the very least try to get them on his side. You either don't give a shit about the game or just squirming scum. Either way good riddance. You aren't important.
sorry that you forgot how to play mafia in your absence
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On December 02 2012 06:52 Blazinghand wrote:
yeah a role PM would be nice marv
I do think Ace makes a reasonable case for why Marv's claim is bad and should be punished, but as a rule lynching blue claims D1 is bad. Sorry Ace.
You are Jamie Hyneman. Your love of the scientific method makes it possible for you to find out how shit works. You've also got a cool collection of cameras and stuff, that you can totally use to track people. (Detective)
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On December 02 2012 06:54 Blazinghand wrote:
Actually assuming your claim is true, we're probably not lynching you tomorrow since you're gonna be dead so there is that
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