On December 08 2012 01:23 ShiaoPi wrote:
Can you pkease switch off austin??? Seriously he is town as fuck. Get over the fact that ge did not crumb and pkay the way you would play tracker.

I get the impression that ShiaoPi has in fact given up trying to convince us that his town instead trying to convince us that he is too stupid to be scum...

Lazermonkey

Sweden2176 Posts

December 07 2012 17:32 GMT

#1871

On December 08 2012 02:09 debears wrote:

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Wait what?

What's your read on shiaopi? scum or town?

I have had him as scum since D1

Lazermonkey

Sweden2176 Posts

December 07 2012 17:40 GMT

#1875

On December 08 2012 02:07 debears wrote:

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Why is it more likely because of the claim?

If you believed before the claim that austin was not too scummy, then you believe that his actions through the whole game have had some sort of town motivation.

So, now that he claimed, you disregard his actions through the whole game based on the fact that him and sandroba can't both be town, especially when you believe sandroba's posting has scum motivation in it?

I'm not understanding this thought

Like I said, the way Austin played with his scum check makes very little sense to me if he were to be town. Is he however scum it makes quite alot of sense. Trading 1 on 1 with someone most players had a town read on, especially since there were quite a few persons claiming to have a town read on Sandroba seems like a quuite good idea also.

Yes, I am not voting him because of his play in the past. I did think his interaction with ShiaoPi were abit scummy but not lynchable really. The reason why I want him dead is indeed the way he used his check.

Lazermonkey

Sweden2176 Posts

December 07 2012 17:41 GMT

#1876

On December 08 2012 02:37 debears wrote:

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So what happens if
1) Austin flips watcher or
2) Austin flips scum?

What's your read on ShiaoPi in both situations?

1.He is scum
2.he is scum

I don't see why it would change anything. His interactions with Sandroba have been so insanely silly today.

Lazermonkey

Sweden2176 Posts

December 07 2012 17:42 GMT

#1877

On December 08 2012 02:28 ShiaoPi wrote:

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On December 08 2012 02:23 austinmcc wrote:

On December 08 2012 02:14 Xatalos wrote:

On December 08 2012 01:48 austinmcc wrote:

On December 08 2012 01:46 Xatalos wrote:
I'm leaning on austinmcc+ShiaoPi+Lazermonkey making the most sense right now. Although austinmcc has played relatively townish (except some things like not reacting to the supposed redcheck, lack of breadcrumbs, etcetc)... And I don't really see debears as Mafia at this point, but he'd have to be Mafia if austinmcc was town.

I didn't "not react" to my watch.

I reacted, but in a way that nobody likes. I decided to be sneaky, but don't seem to have done that well, and didn't get anything for it really.

And no, I didn't crumb. But I generally haven't crumbed my roles, and I didn't crumb when I found a message in Bureaucracy, and didn't crumb when I shot someone in LVII.

Hmmm. I can somehow accept that you don't usually crumb, although it's stupid. But being "sneaky" (passive) after getting a redcheck is just too much to believe. I think your way of defending yourself today is townish, I really do... more townish than Sandroba's play today definitely... still, it's not enough to change my vote. I can't bring myself to believe you actually got a redcheck on Sandroba and didn't actively pursue that.

So I was playing townish on D1. I'm playing townish today. But you disagree with what I did D2.

That's fine.

But if I've mainly been playing townish, and Sandroba doesn't seem to be playing townish (and bee tee dubs, is supposedly lazy as scum), then I'm not entirely clear why the vote's on me.

If we kill sandroba today, he'll flip red. You guys will almost certainly see me flip tonight, because sandroba would be gone and scum would be taking a risk trying to kill someone without getting watched. They could try and be tricksy with targeting, but even that confirms me somewhat - a less-than-optimal NK shows that they're playing around a watch.

You may not believe I have a redcheck, fine. But that entirely overpowers the fact that I was playing townie on D1, townie today, that Sandroba isn't raelly playing townie? When I've got a history of being somewhat retarded with my roles (although less so than this I guess) and Sandroba has a history of being lazy scum?

Thats ehst I have been trying to say all day, they dont lisren...

Also lazer, you shoild learn to read

¿Qué?

Lazermonkey

Sweden2176 Posts

December 07 2012 17:47 GMT

#1879

On December 08 2012 02:10 austinmcc wrote:

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My point there is that from your conduct today, I think that you're probably mafia. You're up at the top of my list now.

My problem with not checking Sandroba is...well, it's partially shown again by your comment here.

(1) You say you're going to check dude x
(2) Dude x and dude y are lynch candidates the next day. Serious lynch candidate, vote is x or y
(3) You vote dude y, without even checking dude x, who you were going to check anyway and were suspicious of
(4) "you cannot both be town and I find you more likely to be scum" --> You admitted that you didn't go check up on Sandroba when you voted me. You "find me more likely to be scum," yet you didn't even look at the other candidate. Silliness. Scumminess.

Well, I vote you with about 30 hours left to lynch so I had alot of time to reconsider. Also, I did look into Sandroba today, so what are you smoking?

Lazermonkey

Sweden2176 Posts

December 08 2012 15:11 GMT

#1989

Yhea, GG town.

Scum stuff: http://www.quicktopic.com/48/H/tdiAiTVe45p

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