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DoYouHas
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##Unvote Shiaopi ##Vote WhereBugsGo This whole situation is stupid. WBG should serve as a better wakeup call than Shiaopi to illustrate my point, sry bugs. | ||
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##Vote Lazermonkey You are going to lynch bugs with or without me, so I'm sticking my vote back on scum. | ||
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DoYouHas
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On December 05 2012 07:50 austinmcc wrote: I am currently not of the mind that there's a "scum pair." I imagine there's more than 0, and less than 4, scum between you guys. How convenient that we would have to kill 3-4 of them in order to confirm your theory. Scumlist: Lazermonkey, austinmcc, zealos/xata | ||
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DoYouHas
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Exempting yourselves, myself, and Keirathi from scum possibilities the remainders are:
Sandroba and debears seem townie to me, you both seem to agree, let's remove them from the list:
If we indeed have 2 pairs of town aligned masons, then it only makes sense that there are at least 4 mafia in the game. That means there should be 3 mafia in the 4 names I just presented. But if that is true, that means that at least one or both of Xatalos/Lazer is scum. And if one or both of them is scum, it drastically reduces the chances that Shiaopi is scum with them. If you don't understand why, then do some time rereading. Take that name off the list.
There is your scumteam. There are two things that could throw my thinking out the window. 1. I could be wrong about sandroba and debears. I don't think I am, but it is possible. 2. You (Mrz & BH) could be mafia in spite of everything. I would much rather confirm my thinking by lynching Lazer, but if you actively oppose me in this, it had better be because you don't agree that keir/sandro/debears are town. Otherwise I am forced to assume that you are scum. | ||
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On December 05 2012 09:29 austinmcc wrote: DYH, I follow you down the rabbit hole. But your conclusion is wrong. Or at least your scumteam is wrong. Please, walk me through your current suspicions. Surely you have it narrowed down a fair bit yourself by now. | ||
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I must say, your points on MrZ are reasonable. Perhaps I should not have excluded him so readily. (Especially since scum don't seem to have a RBer.) | ||
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On December 05 2012 22:19 sandroba wrote: Xatalos is most likely not scum. The random Shiaopi isn't scum makes no sense. If you look carefully of how the day went the most likely scenario is that he is indeed scum, given the counter wagons and the hopping out of his wagon as soon as it became clear that there was a possibility of him not being lynched. I don't agree that debears looks townie. I would put him toghether with lazer and austin as the possible remaining scum (besisdes shiaopi). These mason claims I'm going to look into some more. 4 masons does seem like a lot, but I never before have seen scum claiming it. What I am hearing is that you are behind a Lazer lynch tomorrow, and we can work from there. | ||
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DoYouHas
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This sequence of posts On December 02 2012 08:59 debears wrote: I have a feeling we could confirm most of town right now.........garrrrrrrrrr On December 02 2012 09:01 debears wrote: My role pm is different from the two presented so far On December 02 2012 09:03 debears wrote: Because its different in a way scum would not know On December 02 2012 09:05 debears wrote: Actually nvm. I think we should save it for lylo It could be helpful. EVERYONE WHO IS TOWN. LOOK AT YOUR ROLE PM COMPARED TO MARV'S AND THE ONE REVEALED TO BE DP'S DON'T REVEAL IF IT'S DIFFERENT YET. WAIT UNTIL LYLO IF NEED BE THEN REVEAL On December 02 2012 09:06 debears wrote: No joke I might have won us the game at lylo On December 02 2012 09:29 debears wrote: Ok scratch the role claim idea at lylo. I let jingle know the situation. I don't want to break the game for a stupid role pm play. Let's win this for real :D This seems to me like a genuine sequence of posts. This looks to me like he looked at his role PM, realized it was different than marv's PM and DP's PM, and realized that if we mass claimed all at once it would reveal something that would confirm town. (My first thought was that if mafia got copies of role PM's instead of unique ones then a mass claim would reveal double claims, giving us a bunch of 50/50 lynches. However, I don't know what debears plan actually was, but I believe he did come up with something, and he did interact with host about it.) If you think debears is scum, then you think that this whole sequence was an elaborate lie, because it is certainly townie otherwise. Why I read Shiaopi as town + Show Spoiler + Lazer is scum. If you look at Lazer's filter, he has been going pretty consistantly after Shiaopi from day1. It also doesn't look like your standard distancing play from Lazer. It looks like he is actually pushing Shiaopi. So I ask you, which is more likely. Did Lazer decide early on to go with a bussing strat when there was very little reason to? Or did Lazer go after Shiaopi because Shiaopi's play so far is exactly what inexperienced scum look for in a target? The latter is far more likely. Why Xatalos should seriously be on the table for scum + Show Spoiler + What has Xata actually done since day1? He has played the reasonable middleground this entire game. Nobody else finds that suspicious? Look at his most recent post. He is willing to admit that austin makes sense for a scumteam, but is only willing to push him after we lynch Shiaopi. (Shiaopi flips town, Xata can freely back off his accusation of austin. Then come out with a post saying that as improbable as it is, the only team that makes sense includes BH/MrZ or debears/Sandro. Nicely deflecting at least 2 lynches away from himself, austin, and Lazer.) | ||
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DoYouHas
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GL Town! | ||
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gg | ||
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E: If I had realized early the scum's willingness to bus Shiaopi it would have made my case against Lazer all the more believable and would have made me less blind to Sandro. | ||
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