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marvellosity
Profile Joined January 2011
United Kingdom36161 Posts
November 29 2012 23:31 GMT
#197
and he's played in Liar game and maybe like IGCOM as well.

Ace so sneaky.
[15:15] <Palmar> and yes marv, you're a total hottie
marvellosity
Profile Joined January 2011
United Kingdom36161 Posts
November 30 2012 00:20 GMT
#232
On November 30 2012 09:17 DarthPunk wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 30 2012 09:15 Dandel Ion wrote:
On November 30 2012 09:13 DarthPunk wrote:
On November 30 2012 09:10 DoYouHas wrote:
On November 30 2012 09:03 Xatalos wrote:
On November 30 2012 08:59 Blazinghand wrote:
##vote Xatalos

I'm from the government and I'm here to help.


Heheh.. What ever should I do. Clearly I've been found out!


Well that is a suspicious way of responding to BH's vote.

##Vote Xatalos

Wrong. He is a noob. (no offense) you can't read too much into things like that with him.

I'm a noob too, and you already lynched me

So inconsistant

Yeah. But your not as new. Also I am confident in my ability to catch you should you havae had the misfortune to roll scum in this game. So I am not really worried about you.


What I AM worried about is town being all retarded and lynching the noobiest player day one (again, no offense)


Why would you be worried about that with the preponderence of highly experienced players within the game?
[15:15] <Palmar> and yes marv, you're a total hottie
marvellosity
Profile Joined January 2011
United Kingdom36161 Posts
November 30 2012 01:05 GMT
#242
I don't really agree with your analysis of DYH's first post at all.

And you seem to have somewhat mistaken preconceptions of how mafia like to, or do, act.
[15:15] <Palmar> and yes marv, you're a total hottie
marvellosity
Profile Joined January 2011
United Kingdom36161 Posts
November 30 2012 01:22 GMT
#249
i do not
[15:15] <Palmar> and yes marv, you're a total hottie
marvellosity
Profile Joined January 2011
United Kingdom36161 Posts
November 30 2012 01:24 GMT
#252
i'm old, i can't remember which games i played when

just click on games and see if i'm in them, i'm in quite a few
[15:15] <Palmar> and yes marv, you're a total hottie
marvellosity
Profile Joined January 2011
United Kingdom36161 Posts
November 30 2012 01:32 GMT
#260
Let's just abandon the day 1 lynch and vote for favourite and least favourite marv filter.
[15:15] <Palmar> and yes marv, you're a total hottie
marvellosity
Profile Joined January 2011
United Kingdom36161 Posts
November 30 2012 01:41 GMT
#264
debears, you so silly
[15:15] <Palmar> and yes marv, you're a total hottie
marvellosity
Profile Joined January 2011
United Kingdom36161 Posts
November 30 2012 02:08 GMT
#280
On November 30 2012 11:01 austinmcc wrote:
Dandel is discrediting himself. You say it doesn't make sense from a town perspective. However, it doesn't make any more sense from a scum perspective.



Simply untrue. Scum have plenty to gain by being ignored. Just take a gander in Ver's guide for an example (Misder possibly)
[15:15] <Palmar> and yes marv, you're a total hottie
marvellosity
Profile Joined January 2011
United Kingdom36161 Posts
November 30 2012 03:33 GMT
#300
On November 30 2012 12:23 wherebugsgo wrote:
Questions:

Why is Blazinghand so useless?

Why has VE not complained about the lack of scumhunting?

Why did Lazermonkey find the need to vote Ace before telling us all he'd be on later?

Why does Xatalos seem scummy but has received the most attention, but not that many votes?

I find myself questioning a lot in this game.


says the dude not voting him
[15:15] <Palmar> and yes marv, you're a total hottie
marvellosity
Profile Joined January 2011
United Kingdom36161 Posts
November 30 2012 03:44 GMT
#304
On November 30 2012 12:42 wherebugsgo wrote:
There's a stark difference between uselessness due to absence and uselessness due to a deliberate lack of contribution.

And marv, I'm not convinced he's scum. Yet.


right, i'm tossing up forced due to town nerves in a big boy game, or scum forced

to be continued!
[15:15] <Palmar> and yes marv, you're a total hottie
marvellosity
Profile Joined January 2011
United Kingdom36161 Posts
November 30 2012 12:57 GMT
#314
pro-tip Xata, BL does it wrong by actually telling us his townreads. Keep them to yourself unless there's a particularly good reason is generally better.

You sound like you're trying really hard so far. I'm giving you a pass atm just because you're putting so much effort in and most people (including me) haven't yet.

Zealos - why did you misrepresent Xata on questions, he didn't say questions were bad, he said that *only* asking questions and not providing anything yourself is bad. I presume you cannot disagree with this so I'm wondering how you managed to misread what he said.
[15:15] <Palmar> and yes marv, you're a total hottie
marvellosity
Profile Joined January 2011
United Kingdom36161 Posts
November 30 2012 16:04 GMT
#335
austin, what would you say the difference between Zealos and BH was?
[15:15] <Palmar> and yes marv, you're a total hottie
marvellosity
Profile Joined January 2011
United Kingdom36161 Posts
November 30 2012 16:20 GMT
#337
Alright, what I expected

For how long would BH's trolliness have to continue before you started regarding it with suspicion (if at all)?
[15:15] <Palmar> and yes marv, you're a total hottie
marvellosity
Profile Joined January 2011
United Kingdom36161 Posts
November 30 2012 17:11 GMT
#348
On December 01 2012 02:06 debears wrote:


I would say that arguably, players like Marv, BH, and VE have good reputations also. Maybe not quite up to Ace's, but still pretty good.

Also, in a game loaded with veterans, why is DoYou so worried about sheeping?

Vets seem to be the majority this game, meaning they know better than to mindlessly sheep

See where I'm going?


Where did he say this? He said he was paranoid of Ace's scum abilities.
[15:15] <Palmar> and yes marv, you're a total hottie
marvellosity
Profile Joined January 2011
United Kingdom36161 Posts
November 30 2012 17:21 GMT
#351
oh yeah, oops. I looked at the first post and then stopped.

Given it had to be drawn out of DYH I'm not worried about that.

Regarding your "moving on" comment, I took it to mean he wouldn't answer on it again, so I'm expecting next time he posts to be on something else.
[15:15] <Palmar> and yes marv, you're a total hottie
marvellosity
Profile Joined January 2011
United Kingdom36161 Posts
November 30 2012 17:27 GMT
#353
austin, I agree that I don't like this vote:

On November 30 2012 10:46 debears wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 30 2012 10:38 DoYouHas wrote:
On November 30 2012 10:29 debears wrote:
On November 30 2012 08:25 DoYouHas wrote:
Hi everyone, looking forward to an active game. It's nice to recognize many of the names on the playerlist even though I haven't played in a while.

I'm happy to see Marv/BH/VE in here. With those 3 there is no reason the thread should be inactive.

I'm perhaps overly cautious of Ace. His reputation obviously precedes him. Never having played with him paired with the knowledge that he can be a devastatingly effective scum leader makes me a little paranoid.

As always, I am in favor of lurker lynching on day1 unless a better candidate shows up (which it inevitably will).


DoYouHas

Why are you trying to paint such a picture on ace? Sure, he is a forefather of TL Mafia, and I'm sure all of us are aware of his ability. But why try to focus on his scumplay so much over his town play?

As I recall, he is also a pretty darn good town player. Stating how you are overly cautious of him (implying somewhat to others that they should also be) just because he's a good mafia player doesn't seem like something a townie would do


Because it does the dual job of accurately explaining my feelings towards him to start the game and hopefully stirring up a little fear towards him so that people don't sheep him quite as readily. If he ends up taking a town leader role, I want him to earn it instead of being ushered into it on his reputation.


That doesn't make any sense. I'm not going to sheep someone cuz of their reputation. I'm going to sheep if their case

1) makes sense
2) is good
3) I believe they are town

If he takes a town leader position, it'll be because of those things. Not because of his reputation

##Unvote
##Vote DoYouHas


Just because debears himself won't sheep someone on reputation doesn't mean people don't, and it doesn't make it inherently scummy to think that people do.

I can find various instances of townies basically just sheeping me (e.g. Clarity, iamperfection)
[15:15] <Palmar> and yes marv, you're a total hottie
marvellosity
Profile Joined January 2011
United Kingdom36161 Posts
November 30 2012 17:43 GMT
#358
On December 01 2012 02:35 austinmcc wrote:
marv, how do you feel about some of his followup to that vote?

Were DYH's comments scummy as shit? Do DYH's comments justify swapping a vote from another player you find scummy as shit, when that vote is only 25 minutes or so old?


I've not found DYH's comments scummy, rather I find them quite straightforward and transparent.

Regarding the voteswapping it tells me that he doesn't value his vote particularly, although I'm not sure what conclusions to draw from that yet... but...

On November 30 2012 11:12 debears wrote:
@Austin

Dandel discrediting himself does make sense from a scum perspective. It can make others say "oh he's a noob I shouldn't put too much weight into what he says".

It makes zero sense from a town perspective

Also, on DoYouHas

I'm curious as to why in the fuck he puts such suspicion on Ace and Ace's scumplay when Ace has a higher probability of rolling town than scum (15 players, what 4 scum scum is the norm? so thats 11/15 chance of town, 4/15 for scum). Why does he want to make everyone cautious of him before he even makes any posts?

Also, Marv is good at scum. He's only lost 1 game if I recall correctly. Why not mention marv in there also?

Why is he scared of Ace this early?


That's my reasoning


Handily we have him commenting on both players in the same post. On Dandel, we have something that makes zero sense from a town perspective. Whereas on the whole spiel on DYH there is little/no demonstration of why it's a scum mindset over a town mindset. If DYH is town, he could be scared of a master scum Ace. If DYH is scum, he could be scared of a town Ace figuring him out or whatever. Why is one more likely than the other?

From reading this post alone it seems like his vote should be on Dandel, not DYH.

Over to you, debears.
[15:15] <Palmar> and yes marv, you're a total hottie
marvellosity
Profile Joined January 2011
United Kingdom36161 Posts
November 30 2012 17:46 GMT
#359
Is it a host conspiracy this game that my name is never capitalised correctly? Is this purely intended to make me paranoid?
[15:15] <Palmar> and yes marv, you're a total hottie
marvellosity
Profile Joined January 2011
United Kingdom36161 Posts
November 30 2012 18:00 GMT
#363
you can rethink it all you like, but at the time of your post you believed otherwise.

that doesn't resolve anything as to where your vote was at the time of that post.
[15:15] <Palmar> and yes marv, you're a total hottie
marvellosity
Profile Joined January 2011
United Kingdom36161 Posts
November 30 2012 18:03 GMT
#367
On December 01 2012 03:01 debears wrote:
Show nested quote +
On December 01 2012 03:00 marvellosity wrote:
you can rethink it all you like, but at the time of your post you believed otherwise.

that doesn't resolve anything as to where your vote was at the time of that post.


As I said, I don't like DoYou's post. I found it scummier. Hence the voteswitch


why was it scummier than something you believed had "zero town motivation"

Could you not find even a bit of town motivation in DYH's post?
[15:15] <Palmar> and yes marv, you're a total hottie
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