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The list of people who are not answering questions asked to them is growing, and it's rather infuriating. Guess I'm gonna go look at some filters and then head to bed. Will be around for a bit longer. | ||
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On November 22 2012 07:40 BioSC wrote: Would you like me to state for the third time why? I said, I agree with his stance on what we should be doing in regards to the Party Election. I agree with his stance on CJ looking back through CJ's filter. I wanted to have 3 people whom I believed to be town in my party, based on early play, so there it is. It's based on him being in my top 3 town reads at the moment. Why is it not ok for marv to be one of my town reads this early, when it's ok for you to sheep him? Because in my sheeping I reasoned that even sheeping a scum marv on that issue would be fine. It says it right there, after the part you bolded. It's fine if marv is one of your town reads, but I don't like/understand your reasoning. The only thing you mention is that he has the same view on how to handle party creation as you, but I don't think there are many people who disagree with that... so why marv? | ||
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On November 22 2012 07:00 iamperfection wrote: well marv you said you can see how he could give you a town read on that. Could you explain that a little better On November 22 2012 07:03 marvellosity wrote: no, iamp, you can wait for Bio to answer himself. Which seems reasonable to me. | ||
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On November 22 2012 08:00 kushm4sta wrote: I (if lynching exists in this game) want to lynch Clarity. 1 He's spamming. It's all asking people questions, promoting more spam. He is someone who is making this game very hard for town to keep up on. 2 Despite all his spam, he has very few ideas of his own. 3 The above quote: why would you call that a "sudden disappearance"? Just because they aren't currently spamming as hard as you? Looks like he is trying to goad suspicion. I really wish we could lynch him, No, it's because we were having a back and forth conversation but when he was talking himself into a corner and I had no idea how he would talk himself out of the giant contradiction he built, he suddenly stopped talking. You don't believe it was a sudden disappearance? | ||
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On November 22 2012 08:06 BioSC wrote: I haven't dissapeared, I'm just tired of responding to the same question over and over. I'm not talking about you. But you still haven't answered properly. Do you believe that with just the reasons you've described, marv deserves to be in your "top 3 townreads"? On November 22 2012 08:06 kushm4sta wrote: As succinctly as possible, please describe his "giant contradiction," I will do it without quotes then, but please do open his filter. He starts by saying he wants newb townies to die, as in, get lynched or killed. When I ask him to elaborate he explains he doesn't want them around at lylo. I point out (although hopeless did this too, and much better) that there might not be such a thing as lylo in this game. Here's where he kind of flip flops and says "yeah maybe I've been going about the newbie thing the wrong way" Then he says he doesn't want newb townies around because they will make us fail missions. When I ask him about this he ignores the question and answers something else, and when it gets pointed out to him that he didn't answer my question, by both hopeless and myself, he stops posting. Then much later he returns with this gem of a post: On November 22 2012 07:03 CaveJohnson wrote: Read my first post and pretty much the last page and a bit of discussion... Anyway I'm gonna sleep I'll probably cast my vote in the morning after I sleep on a few things. If you can figure out what he means I would love to know. | ||
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Kush do you agree with my phrasing "sudden disappearance"? If you do, do you still believe I should be "lynched" for what you call spam? | ||
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On November 22 2012 08:42 kushm4sta wrote: See this is why I haven't been talking, because that does actually seem pretty scummy from CJ. Why didn't you mention Marv in your explanation though? Are you trying to distance yourself from him or what? You mention Hopelessleader twice though. Especially since Marv was the person who was primarily pushing CJ, and you were just sheeping him, it seems a little weird not to even mention marv. Because hopeless was there when I was interacting with CJ, marv wasn't. Yes, marv did lay the groundwork on this, I don't deny that. I was kind of looking into him when I mentioned (much earlier) the fact that he gave an actual hp number though, sure it's just 999 but I figured I could get him out of the woodwork. | ||
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I mean "nirvana strike" isn't exactly the most imaginative, what makes you so sure it's an actual thing, marv? | ||
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On November 22 2012 21:49 marvellosity wrote: where did you get "makes marv so sure it's an actual thing" from me saying "if he's telling the truth"? Kind of because of the order of your post: You get very pissed at him, and you'll never play with him again.... if it's true. I don't know what the point of faking it is, Oats, but from the games I've read if anyone would do such a thing it's Kush. I'll get back to you about the candidates as I'm still reading. | ||
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On November 22 2012 21:55 Acrofales wrote: It's an ability that Cyrus has in Chrono Trigger (yes, I looked that shit up in the chronopedia). Kush claims Cyrus and Nirvana Strikes marv. I can see no reason for Kush, who is playing a lousy game (even lousier than usual), to jump out of nowhere, fakeclaim and fake-ability Marv. It just makes way more sense for this to be real. And given the way he did it, he is expecting to suicide with it. It is pathetic, but I see no reason to mistrust its authenticity. Yeah I'm not planning to let it affect me until we get flip information but marv's post just seemed oddly made. I guess I should keep stuff like that to myself until it actually tells me something. As for the candidates, since you asked Oats, I see no reason to switch from syllo. I'm glad Kita became active again but I don't like his "I am back, let's make a big fuss and make jokes!" It's really good he's making reads though, or at least giving reasons to not take people. If I were to switch it would be goodkarma and I might do that if syllo doesn't come back and add some more of his thoughts. | ||
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On November 22 2012 22:06 marvellosity wrote: Clarity, you know very well I have an extremely low tolerance threshold for stupidity. You and me both, although the difference is I say stupid things myself sometimes. Like I said, never mind, it's just the ordering that turned me off. | ||
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On November 22 2012 23:19 marvellosity wrote: All my questions have a point, I'm always somewhat spammy, and I never get mislynched. Why did you even say that? On November 22 2012 23:19 Oatsmaster wrote: Stop posting 1 liners Clarity or you'll be deemed useless/spammy/scummy. :D which you already are kinda on the verge of :D Oats answered for me. Hence the bitter part. | ||
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My goal for today is to scumhunt. I think the election thing is important but I don't have to post much for it, just have to find my biggest townread who is running and look at their reads and see if I agree. If I do, that's great, back to scumhunting. I haven't been as succesful, or I guess felt as succesful, as I did last game. I'll definitely have some reads ready before resolution period though. I'm just bitter that you get away with playing the way I want to play, but I don't, I guess. | ||
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On November 22 2012 23:46 Acrofales wrote: <coaching mode> I think the main difference between Marv's questions and your questions is that Marv's always seem to lead somewhere. They are poignant things that, when read, make one think "hey, I would like to know that". For instance, his questioning me just now made me actually think MORE about my own posts and Kita, and analyze my own thought process. Me being forced to post that, gives everybody an insight into how I think and that is an incredibly important tool for scumhunting. However, your questions seem to be more sidetracks. Something like this: Questions like this are not scumhunting, they are questions about setup, and Sandro's thought process will not be laid bare in this way. A couple of questions like this is fine. Too many and people get tired and label you as unproductive. Questions/statements like this: are somewhere between meaningless and stating the obvious. There seems to be quite a lot of that in your filter. In general, going through your filter it is hard to find what you are trying to accomplish with your questions. That is not a good thing. The disconnectedness and one-liners make your filter hard to read and seem very fluffy. I think that is probably what Marv is getting at when he asks what you are trying to accomplish. </coaching mode> I have no clue what to think of you atm, Clarity, which is why I'm bothering with the coaching. If I thought you were scum that would be pointless. Okay let me address this. I do actually believe you are trying to help me. First quote of me, it was a follow up to my first question. On November 21 2012 11:58 Clarity_nl wrote: Do you know something we don't about scum kp system? This question should clear up what sand means, because he seemed to talk like he knew how mafia kp worked (note this was super early in the game). The second quote is criticizing iamp's logic. He says we should put the towniest player as leader, and then he talks about how we will get a strong read on said person, which seems contradictory. The "your filter will look like crap and fluff" is a valid one and one I didn't really think about it that way. The reason I don't give reasoning with my questioning is because I'd be providing a convenient answer to whoever I'm questioning. Perhaps I should give my reasoning after the fact. When my questioning leads to a dead end or a reasonable defense then there's generally no point in talking about it more. I guess at the end of the process I feel like I learned something about someone, and I kind of figured others would too. In about 2 hours I'll be around again, and I'll try to contribute/get information in a way that is more pleasing to others, I guess. | ||
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On November 23 2012 02:11 Dienosore wrote: @phagga I identified them as scum early game due to their posturing and grammar. I didn't have much to go on then, so I had to make some advanced reads based on 1-2 pages of filter. I wasn't entirely sure. Since then, however, there has been so many indicators that if I were to compile them all here it would take up too many hours of my Thanksgiving. Dieno you've used this comment about grammar before, could you please give us an example of where someone's grammar is alignment indicative? | ||
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