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iamperfection

United States9647 Posts

November 23 2012 15:21 GMT

#1911

On November 24 2012 00:19 Oatsmaster wrote:
@Iamp
Why are you asking Marv that? how does this help town in ANY WAY?
Isnt better to ask marv how he is important to town?

was i talking to you? shush me and marv are talking

iamperfection

United States9647 Posts

November 23 2012 15:25 GMT

#1912

On November 24 2012 00:19 Oatsmaster wrote:
@Iamp
Why are you asking Marv that? how does this help town in ANY WAY?
Isnt better to ask marv how he is important to town?

also i am not interested on how he is important

iamperfection

United States9647 Posts

November 23 2012 15:33 GMT

#1915

On November 24 2012 00:25 marvellosity wrote:

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I'm always important to town, dear. Your question has a bunch of hidden implications that I'd much rather you came straight out with

Also for anyone having douubts this is town marv again his hearts in it oncce again

right marv??

iamperfection

United States9647 Posts

November 23 2012 15:39 GMT

#1916

On November 24 2012 00:04 Clarity_nl wrote:
I'm not sure. If I had to pick I'd lean Bio.

I still don't really buy Hapa's townread on GK though. I would like someone else who's played with GK to confirm he's playing to his town meta.

did you go look at bios other games?

iamperfection

United States9647 Posts

November 23 2012 15:42 GMT

#1918

On November 24 2012 00:41 Clarity_nl wrote:

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Can't say that I have, no. That's why I said "if I had to pick"

really all we have against him at this point is that his marv read (at the time) was bs

iamperfection

United States9647 Posts

November 24 2012 01:40 GMT

#2180

On November 24 2012 10:39 Dienosore wrote:
Also, who is this VE guy, and why do you all immediately start calling him by a nickname? Should I be concerned?

yes

iamperfection

United States9647 Posts

November 24 2012 01:46 GMT

#2182

I like that i somewhat predicted that would happen in regards to bio however i dont think it tells us anything about his alignment unfortunately.

iamperfection

United States9647 Posts

November 24 2012 05:44 GMT

#2255

On November 24 2012 14:33 goodkarma wrote:

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On November 24 2012 14:29 TheChronicler wrote:

On November 24 2012 14:15 Z-BosoN wrote:

On November 24 2012 14:11 Djodref wrote:

On November 24 2012 14:02 Z-BosoN wrote:
@TheChronicle

You keep saying I'm not reading, that people are not reading, that people are stupid, or whatever, but you fail to supply evidence. I've searched your filter yet again and couldn't see where you responded to this:

http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/viewmessage.php?topic_id=382922&currentpage=102#2037

At least in a way in which I could recognize it as an attempt.

Can you please quote the part where you replied specifically to the post I linked?

@Z-BosoN

He has already addressed it. His plan was not based on the fact that people were going to chose other people based on their townreads, but based on "certain reads". So there is no apparent contradiction but it reinforces my conviction that he made this plan to not be elected with. I'm not saying that the plan is necessarily bad, in fact I'm quite interested with his idea, but what I'm sure is that his plan was not well thought through, it doesn't look like he really believes in it and it's was made with the goal to not be elected.

This makes zero sense to me. Why would he pick three people if not people based on his own town reads? What the hell do you/him mean by "certain reads". What other reads are there when choosing the "team pickers"?

Lol, you have to be scum. There's absolutely no way I can see you as town. I sat here for like five minutes trying to find the contradiction, then I realized this was just so much easier to explain if you/acro were scum together.

On November 24 2012 05:22 Z-BosoN wrote:

On November 24 2012 05:12 TheChronicler wrote:
Again there's no contradiction and I have a hard time believing acro is that bad. Where do I say I'm convinced my plan was bad acro? I still think its what we should have done and what we should do. However, I'm not so blind as to stick to my plan if everyone else thinks its horrible. Do you expect me to scream and shout shitting up the thread? No one liked my plan, I gave it up because shitting up the thread with discussion about it is stupid. Kind of like what you're doing right now...

Where did I say the people I chose would be my town reads? You're grasping at straws here trying to make me look bad. I can't help but look at the person who I think started this and then dipped from the thread, Z-Bo

On November 24 2012 04:02 Acrofales wrote:
Oh jesus. This feels like finding Drazak (not Drazerk) was scum in Acme. The contradictions just keep piling up.

Plan:

On November 21 2012 12:25 TheChronicler wrote:

On November 21 2012 11:59 Oatsmaster wrote:
random fluff post,
Lotta Brazilians :O

Useless. Don't post like this.

On November 21 2012 12:14 Clarity_nl wrote:
I do not have any kind of read on anyone yet. He would be a good choice because if he's scum it'll show comparatively to his town play.

Who is he? I'm assuming Hapa.

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I'd like to be the party leader. I'm an unknown (hopefully) and no one will make stupid bullshit meta reads on the leader that would probably be worse than a coin flip. That's pretty much the only reason I want to lead. I don't even want to pick who will be the three on my team, which takes me to the next part of my pitch, and something I hope whoever is leader uses.

If I'm leader I don't want to choose the three people with me. I want to choose three people to choose three people who will be on the team. They can choose themselves if they'd like. Why do this? Because it gets us more information. If I'm not chosen leader I'd like the person who IS chosen to implement this system.

We still get information from who the leader chooses, AND we get information based upon who the three chosen people choose.

Summary: leader dishes out TOWN reads and then each town read dishes out town reads.

On November 24 2012 02:50 TheChronicler wrote:
1) I think I said this, but I don't believe in ever giving town reads because that just says to scum "shoot these people"

Really, no contradiction? At all?

Really? Two people jumping on the same thing and both being equally wrong? I've given a lot of leeway with reading for this, but I can't find anything in my posts that say I would choose town reads. Why try and make something so easily checked like that up? Something so purposefully misleading only has scum motivation.

Association based scum read on two unflipped players? Even a scrub like me knows that's sloppy play... -_-

Sloppy but is it scummy?

Go look at the orginal plan that chronicle thought was good in his mind. He believed that it would give the most information to town for whatever reason and now he has people saying he was scum for just coming up with. I dont see how he could manipulate the process in his orginal plan if everyone was dumping reads all over the place what would be the scum motivation for that in day 1 i dont see it. People being as open as possible is basically what he advocated and plan.

Now the contradiction comes from nothing to do with the plan. I dropped the town read not in any part of a plan or for the election of any kind and i didn't advocate dino being on the team to a little later. that what it looks like to me that chronicle was getting all worked up to me was that i just dropped the read with small reasoning like i usally do and it upset him. So i think the situation is being misrepresented.

iamperfection

United States9647 Posts

November 24 2012 05:44 GMT

#2256

but maybe its best to ask chronicle to explain but thats what it looks like to me

iamperfection

United States9647 Posts

November 24 2012 05:46 GMT

#2257

On November 24 2012 14:40 TheChronicler wrote:

1) anyone saying they have a strong read d1 is lying. I made a decision based on small things, yup.

thats bs though i get very strong reads on day 1 all the time. your just wrong here.

iamperfection

United States9647 Posts

November 24 2012 05:52 GMT

#2262

zbos

i think we already been through that it was a shit plan. he thought it would give him a bunch of information for whatever reason the question is does it make him scum.

I think his somewhat stubbornness revolving around the plan is the better tell as he pushed it somewhat early on and even tried to modify to get it to work. He clearly thought it was good and somewhat still good in his mind. I think if he was scum he would more of just went with the flow

I think that he is more likely to be town.

iamperfection

United States9647 Posts

November 24 2012 05:53 GMT

#2263

On November 24 2012 14:49 TheChronicler wrote:

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You're lucky with your day 1 reads then. It's either horrible scum or pure luck. With nothing to go on and no real interactions no scum should slip up that early. Strongly disagree.

your an idiot

iamperfection

United States9647 Posts

November 24 2012 05:54 GMT

#2265

wasnt able to figure out dino was pro town herp derp cool story bro

iamperfection

United States9647 Posts

November 24 2012 05:56 GMT

#2266

On November 24 2012 14:49 TheChronicler wrote:

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You're lucky with your day 1 reads then. It's either horrible scum or pure luck. With nothing to go on and no real interactions no scum should slip up that early. Strongly disagree.

i was able to catch hapa in two diffrent games from basically the sum of like 5 total posts from him so your just wrong.

iamperfection

United States9647 Posts

November 24 2012 05:57 GMT

#2267

also i caught yourharry with 0 posts once but thats a bad example.

iamperfection

United States9647 Posts

November 24 2012 06:01 GMT

#2269

On November 24 2012 14:59 Djodref wrote:

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I disagree. As scum, I would have come with a bad plan and tried to push for it.

Does his plan have any sense from a town perspective ?

His plan doesn't help us to assure the event success.
His plan doesn't help us to find town players.
His plan doesn't really help us to find mafia players.
The only thing is plan does is giving us some irrelevant information.

His plan was made so he couldn't be elected and so he looked like this bad guy with poor ideas and poor logic. Or he is just a guy with poor ideas and poor logic with one year experience on mafia forums. Not buying it.

im pretty sure your not him

Im looking more at his tone and his agression in it. He clearly thinks it was good in his mind. Does that make him scum?
i dont think so

iamperfection

United States9647 Posts

November 24 2012 06:02 GMT

#2271

On November 24 2012 14:59 Djodref wrote:

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his pushing of it and aggression in it suggests he actually did want to be elected

iamperfection

United States9647 Posts

November 24 2012 06:23 GMT

#2277

On November 24 2012 15:02 goodkarma wrote:

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There will be plenty of time to show off your e-peen post game.

Who is your top scum read right now, and why?

i would probably just sheep the sandroba lynch at this point. I dont feel real good about it but ill take a closer look tomorrow before i cast a vote and can dive through more filters as well as his past games.

pass my bed time now.

iamperfection

United States9647 Posts

November 24 2012 21:33 GMT

#2593

sandroba should be mixing it up with everyone with this much suspicion on him and dropping reads. He is a position to help town if he is town and he is not doing it which tells me he is scum.

## Vote sandroba

iamperfection

United States9647 Posts

November 24 2012 21:45 GMT

#2598

On November 25 2012 06:40 kitaman27 wrote:
An option we have is to put the lynch on someone like cave, nuke, hopeless or thechronicler, switch back to sandroba if he shows up within the last hour, or nuke him tonight if the switch back is unsuccessful.

Are people willing to switch?

im always up for shenanigans.

I would be against lynching thechronicler and hopeless though

Cronicler for reasons i have stated earlier

Hopeless has been fairly active for himself i would have to take more closer look at his actual content

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