Haven't began to crossreference anyone yet. Probably will only do that on a case by case basis. Nothing pops up as too fishy yet, but I've only just begin to really look deep into the maps.

Dienosore

Brunei Darussalam622 Posts

November 24 2012 00:09 GMT

#2154

Cave is also another person who has not accused anyone as mafia. In fact, my maps tell me he doesn't even really have ANY anger towards anyone. The only outgoing line from him is a secret relationship with Iamp that I spotted early in the game, which i don't really remember why I drew it anymore.

Seems suspicious for a towny to not be hunting for mafia

Dienosore

Brunei Darussalam622 Posts

November 24 2012 01:26 GMT

#2173

On November 24 2012 09:14 TheChronicler wrote:
Is there a reason there's no lines leading away from me? O. Hav to specifically call someone scum? Just trying to make sense of that thing.

If you are on the outside of the bubble, chances are it's because you have been lurking. Some people in this game already have 14 pages of filter, while others have 3. I start by framing the map with who I view as the most influential people in the game. In the middle, put people who are most in the public eye and under the most scrutiny. D1 it was Syllo/Sandro. D2 it was the group; Syllo/Oats/Keir. Then, whenever a new name is introduced, I put it near who introduced it first, and things just kind of spiral out from there. This way you can find out where certain groups exist, people talking about only a certain group of people. Thats why it's fun to cross reference day to day, to see if certain names group up again.

One thing I've found interesting so far is that Sandro and Marv sure do create a lot of concentration, and that GoodKarma hasn't moved AT ALL from day to day.

I have no idea what that means yet, because this whole process is more of an art rather than science, but it is awfully curious.

Dienosore

Brunei Darussalam622 Posts

November 24 2012 01:29 GMT

#2175

Oh and also some of the lines in the second map are pencil, some are pen. Pencil indicates that they are voting to hang that person.

Dienosore

Brunei Darussalam622 Posts

November 24 2012 01:36 GMT

#2177

True, if you have info, I'd rather you shared it. Better than having to guess and worry if you are going to blow someone up or not.

Dienosore

Brunei Darussalam622 Posts

November 24 2012 01:37 GMT

#2178

EXPLOSIVE LASAGNA, blam, oof, BOOM, lol

Dienosore

Brunei Darussalam622 Posts

November 24 2012 01:39 GMT

#2179

Also, who is this VE guy, and why do you all immediately start calling him by a nickname? Should I be concerned?

Dienosore

Brunei Darussalam622 Posts

November 24 2012 01:44 GMT

#2181

well if it helps, I wasn't particularly scared of biosc until he fell off the planet. There was so little info i could collect from him, so I can't say for sure.

Dienosore

Brunei Darussalam622 Posts

November 24 2012 04:06 GMT

#2226

You've got a lot more pandering to do, sandro, if you want to clear your name. My maps say you are the most hated person in the game right now.

Dienosore

Brunei Darussalam622 Posts

November 24 2012 04:37 GMT

#2235

@sandro: Actually, I take that back. Kitaman is in first, with TheChronicler in second, and CaveJohnson/GoodKarma in third. What I mean to say was you are the most accused of being scum.

Dienosore

Brunei Darussalam622 Posts

November 24 2012 16:31 GMT

#2391

On November 24 2012 23:01 Toadesstern wrote:
screw that

##vote Sandro

I mapped you voting for sandro a long time ago. Why do you feel the need to vote him again, and in such a lackadaisical manner?

Here is the updated map for d2. There has been a ton of shit slinging, so it's starting to fill up quite nicely.

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Noteable things:
- Djodref with no incoming lines, nor any negative outgoing lines (other than his vote for TheChronicler). This is wildly different from the day 1 map. Is the only supporter of many other who are catching flak right now.
- Kitaman with no outgoing lines, other than a mutual hate with Risk.Nuke (You'd think someone catching as much negativity as Kita is would try to shift the blame, or at least frame someone else)
- Phagga/Keirathi/Iamp/SnB/Adam/and Hopelessder flying WAY under the radar on d2. Doesn't mean one thing or another, just is suspicious.
- Lots of scum reads from everyone, but they dont really match up with the voting results.

Voting results from d1 and d2 (so far):
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Day 1 Vote Count
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Kitaman27 (4): Kitaman27, Promethelax, strongnbig
Goodkarma (1): risknuke
Hapahauli (4): Hapahauli, Iamperfection, Clarity_nl, CaveJohnson
Dienosore (1): Dienosore
Syllogism (14): Toadesstern, Acrofales, BioSC, djodref, keirathi, goodkarma, Adam4167, Syllogism, Oatsmaster, Marvellosity, TheChronicler, zboson, sandroba, phagga
Hopeless1der (1): Hopeless1der

Day 2 Lynch Count!
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Sandroba (10): Clarity_nl, Oatsmaster, Adam4167, goodkarma, risk.nuke, strongandbig, syllogism, TheChronicler, Promethelax, Toadesstern
CaveJohnson (1): phagga
TheChronicler (2): Djodref, Acrofales, Hopeless1der
Promethelax (1): Hapahauli

Dienosore

Brunei Darussalam622 Posts

November 24 2012 16:52 GMT

#2397

On November 25 2012 01:42 Toadesstern wrote:
I actually haven't understood your map yet, like Marv said I've been mainly mentioning Sand and him d1&d2 so far, maybe Keir a little d1 but I think I made it very clear that that was on purpose to get something going and I don't see arrows between Marv and me.
But than again who knows what arrow belongs to what person

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As you can see, I already have those two connections mapped out. I know it's a bit tough for you guys trying to make sense of it all online

Dienosore

Brunei Darussalam622 Posts

November 24 2012 16:57 GMT

#2401

Have you guys considered that The Guessing Game is the backlash of a scum attack from kita? Like... Kita can shoot someone for 200 dmg, then has to play the guessing game as penance?

Dienosore

Brunei Darussalam622 Posts

November 24 2012 16:58 GMT

#2403

Just seems strange to me that Kita is gathering all this hate, yet no one is backing it up with their lynch vote.

Dienosore

Brunei Darussalam622 Posts

November 24 2012 17:04 GMT

#2412

On November 25 2012 01:59 marvellosity wrote:

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are you going to sit there commentating like a useless buffoon, or actually contribute?

If you're asking me to build a case on someone, I unfortunately don't have the time right now. All I'm trying to do is lay out the facts with my maps and try to catch someone contradicting themselves. Hopefully I can spur some discussion with my revelations, because right now everyone is kind of talking around circles. The same people are calling the same people scum, yet still voting for sandro anyway.

Dienosore

Brunei Darussalam622 Posts

November 24 2012 17:07 GMT

#2414

On November 25 2012 02:05 marvellosity wrote:

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Except you're not providing insight into anything, you're just summarise. Why not give your viewpoint on the arguments going on? you're not laying out any facts except your own interpretations which we're not really party to.

Sure i'll happily share my viewpoints. Which arguments would you like to discuss?

Dienosore

Brunei Darussalam622 Posts

November 24 2012 17:13 GMT

#2422

On November 25 2012 02:08 Toadesstern wrote: But telling people who he picked probably isn't good either, at least not if he's town.

There is always the angle he could play, "Here is who I picked, a vote not for him is a vote against me"

Of course there would be no way to tell a lie here, and no way to tell if he actually took damage. Could be used as a good way for mafia to influence the vote.

HOWEVER, I remember kita saying that if he guesses wrong, he will die. For a towny whose head is on the chopping block, he seems rather content with just taking his pick to the grave with him and not trying to survive.