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kitaman27
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On November 25 2012 02:01 marvellosity wrote: what toad? kita will have guessed the lynch, but he's putting on a show for us deciding who he wants to lynch with his vote... Right, I'm clearly spending my afternoon looking through filters to entertain you all. It has nothing to do with wanting to make the correct decision. | ||
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kitaman27
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On November 25 2012 02:13 Dienosore wrote: HOWEVER, I remember kita saying that if he guesses wrong, he will die. For a towny whose head is on the chopping block, he seems rather content with just taking his pick to the grave with him and not trying to survive. You misread. If I guess wrong I do not die. | ||
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kitaman27
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The thing that stands out to me from reading his filter is that he focuses on commenting on safe topics. He discourages setup speculation, he asks about marv's irrelevant color scheme (multiple times), and he's asking a bunch of questions, similar to nuke. On November 24 2012 06:43 Hopeless1der wrote: you mean you'd lynch for reasons OTHER than being scum? ##Vote: TheChronicler With his post on his vote today, he jumps on what I consider to be a "gotchya" quote. There is little support behind his vote and it looks as if he is looking for a place to put his vote, rather than push his scum reads. On November 24 2012 07:12 Hopeless1der wrote: My problem with sandro's lynch is that I don't think he is scum. My problem with your reasoning to lynch him is that they aren't centered around him being scum. In his defense of sandorba, he provides a town read. I honestly don't see what would lead him to that conclusion unless he has additional knowledge. From my perspective, sandroba could be either afk lazy mafia or null based on the fact that he isn't around. I really feel like there is one piece of information that we need before deciding on the lynch. Prom claims some type of tracking ability on sandro. Where are you prom and what is your role description? Does the fact that you got a result mean that sandroba was lying about his roleblock? | ||
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kitaman27
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The purpose of my candidacy was quite clear; To get elected and to get my preferred team chosen. I provided my list of people I would bring along, explained my thought process, and then attempted to get syllo to reveal his team so I could provide input. As for my scum reads, my initial scum post was 24 hours into the game. It was basically the people I didn't want to come along under any circumstances due to their play. The focus on day one was town hunting, which is what I also focused on. Today I think I've been quite open with my reads. I explained why Cave has to die, I explained why I am on the fence about sandroba, I explained why I have a scum read on nuke (which you don't even bring up). You mention that I haven't been drawing on past games with my drazerk case. I read through pokemafia and aperture yesterday and steamship/one of the normal games today. I could bring up a bunch of examples of how he fake claims and posts nonsense, but that's common knowledge. I am well aware of the fact that he has a history of doing this as town. To me, the difference comes down to motivation. At the current point, I don't see how his post benefits town, rather than personal amusement. He has responded a couple times to my questions and completely dropped off the map. The thing that you are completely overlooking is how open I am being. Every game as town, my number one goal is to share my thought process and hope that other people are seeing the same things. Why do you ignore the 200 damage that I've been targeted with in your case. Do you think this is a town ability or that I'm lying about it? @whoever asked me to reveal my guessing game pick, I picked the player I thought most likely to get lynched. At the point where I had to submit it, I wasn't sure who I'd be pushing and that seemed like the most logical choice. @Acro, I currently have the players in the game ranked and I have TheChronicler in the top 10 for likely scum suspects due to his reactionary playstyle and his focus on his himself. I've devoted my time elsewhere however so I've only read his filter once. | ||
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kitaman27
United States9245 Posts
On November 25 2012 04:01 marvellosity wrote: The thing is, kita, we're like 4 hours from lynch and yet you've never actually pushed to get anyone lynched. I think I've made it quite clear that I would be in favor of a cave, sandroba, or nuke lynch. This becomes only sandroba if prom ever returns to reveal his night interactions. Hope I'm leaning scum, but I don't think there is enough to go by yet. @nuke, again you return to only defend yourself. You brought up that I am scummy. If so, then why are we just learning this now? Who are you going after right now? On November 25 2012 04:08 Dienosore wrote: Ok well, I'll be your first supporter then  ##Vote: GoodKarma I wouldn't want to lynch for GoodKarma today. He has been active enough and seems to have attempted to put a case together on my, but mid way through, realized that his read might not have been as clear as he thought. As mafia, you generally tend to pick your target and push them, regardless of if there is enough evidence because whoever you choose, there isn't going to be any legit proof. | ||
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kitaman27
United States9245 Posts
On November 25 2012 04:10 TheChronicler wrote: Why do you feel this way? I've been paying attention to you and you were one of my strongest town reads until you just started helping Marv get off his failed case. "Failed case"? Do you have knowledge of my alignment? | ||
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kitaman27
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On November 25 2012 04:18 TheChronicler wrote: Lol. Failed case = alignment confirmed since when? I must have misunderstood then. You're calling his case failed because you think its bad? | ||
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kitaman27
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On November 25 2012 04:15 marvellosity wrote: there is a massive difference between being 'in favour' of a lynch and pushing a lynch candidate. You are 'in favour' of a sandroba lynch yet you say you are on the fence. You are 'in favour' of nuke yet you do not push him. You are 'in favour' of a Cave lynch yet you have not in any way demonstrated how his play makes him scum rather than just a troll. Silly Brit spells favor wrong  I am on the fence on sandroba. I don't see how you couldn't be considering how little content he has given us. However, due to my thoughts about the claimed kp and roleblock and his disinterest, yes I would be fine with seeing him lynched. I don't see how you can criticize me for my position, when you're in the exact same spot. I've brought up my case against nuke, explained why his response is inadequate, and asked you to take a look at my case. I considered voting for him, but there is still the prom thing I'd like to hear back on. Cave is getting a lot of push back, which shouldn't be happening when he goes incognito after gaining the spotlight. I shot him last night. I received no damage in return. His story about trying to bring out the chef is nonsense. Furthermore, he was protected last night. He received only half damage from my shot. Either he has a defensive role, which doesn't fit in with his reflective damage claim or another player is protecting him, which seems ludicrous unless he was scum. | ||
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kitaman27
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On November 25 2012 04:32 marvellosity wrote: Your shot was only worth 50 HP? Do you have multiple? Not saying. | ||
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kitaman27
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On November 25 2012 04:30 marvellosity wrote: Interesting. I will have to cogitate because my first inclination is to believe this. Where do you stand with Cave now. Do you still see him as null and someone who should be left alone? | ||
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kitaman27
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I suggest a full role claim from him upon his return. Still quite annoyed that prom hasn't showed up. | ||
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kitaman27
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On November 25 2012 05:44 Acrofales wrote: I am so far not seeing the scum in Prom. However, I am not seeing the town in Prom either, and that alone is causing me to be very cautious with him. His absence after that claim, though, bugs me too. I still have a town read on prom. As for toad, I'm haven't looked into him and I just started a game of LoL. I'll reread his filter afterwards, though I probably wouldn't lynch him today. | ||
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kitaman27
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Are people willing to switch? | ||
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kitaman27
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I took 50 damage last night. I picked sandroba from my guessing game and avoided the damage. I'm also part of a fun new game, which I won't reveal yet -_- Considering Sandroba never returned, I think we should be looking for players that show signs of frustration towards his absence. On November 25 2012 09:36 marvellosity wrote: I'm basically a medic type role. I reduce incoming HP by half on the target player (or in 600 AD, 2 players). So Cave trolls it up to attract kp, syllo is bussed with cave, and syllo takes my hit, while cave gets protected. | ||
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kitaman27
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On November 25 2012 09:42 Promethelax wrote: the roleblocks buddy, the roleblocks. Neither of those things went through. Ah guess so. So there is a second 50% damage medic running around, possibly on the mafia team? Also, I guess it does make sense to reveal the mechanics for this cycle's game. If hapahauli, oatsmaster, or phagga vote for me, I have to choose between damaging them for a small amount or myself for a large amount. | ||
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kitaman27
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On November 25 2012 10:32 TheChronicler wrote: 200 gold Popcorn You target 2 players. You will be told if they are the same alignment or different. Night Results: toadesstern and sandroba, same.  Dieno in my opinion would be the best person to elect leader. He was the target of most of the damage and makes the most sense to lead this mission. The fact that you guys don't trust his abilities is irrelevant. We want a townie as leader and as town, we will come up with the best party for him to select. As for who those should be, I'll come up with a list of my preference tomorrow. | ||
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kitaman27
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On November 25 2012 10:38 Oatsmaster wrote: Kita wants a puppet leader. I do not agree with Kita. Scum could convince Dieno to vote them and there is no onus on the party leader to find out who is town. What makes you think any other person isn't less open to manipulation? Don't attack his experience when he is the best choice we have right now. Your puppet accusation is nonsense. In my opinion there are plenty of good town selections to choose from. I'll post my list tomorrow. If you think I'm manipulating him, you will have you chance to attack my choices, but that doesn't mean we shouldn't be selecting our best option. | ||
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kitaman27
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Dienosore - Target of the bulk of the day one kp, sucessful on day one. Oats - Successful on day one, role matches the era, claims to have bused sandroba and syllo, which explains the damage that wasn't making sense to me on sandroba. Kitaman27 - I was the first person to oppose sandroba's election. I brought up my experience with sandroba in a previous election game to show how he can change his scum meta when he has something he wants. When syllo and sandroba were intent on bringing each other along, I brought up how the mafia would be content with either selection. I've been the target of 3 different anti-town roles. There was some amount of push to get me lynched yesterday with sandroba on the block. Prom - After the day post, he votes sandroba right off the bat, which matches up with the knowledge he would have that sandroba visited syllo. While his role claim came later in the cycle when sandroba was going to likely be lynched, it probably sealed his fate. As far as I can tell, his mass roleblock role was only one use. If this is the case, I disagree with syllo's assessment that the role would be overpowered for town. Prom, if this isn't the case, please claim. I don't think Marv should be selected. We know that he visited syllo, but we don't have a confirmation of his healing role. Yesterday, he came out looking quite poor leading the opposition lynch on myself, while switching to sandroba only when it was clear he wasn't returning. I don't see how he is considered one of the top four players in terms of towniness so far this game. | ||
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kitaman27
United States9245 Posts
On November 26 2012 08:05 Clarity_nl wrote: The moment you try to explain why you're towny you're in major wifom territory. I think prom is an odd choice. At least I'm not one of these players that's insisting that they don't want to be part of a party, which is incredibly strange. I feel I've done enough to warrant a selection. | ||
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kitaman27
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On November 26 2012 08:07 marvellosity wrote: so what do you think of Acro, kita? (the one today who said he didn't want to be in a party) If he's town and he says he doesn't want to be selected, then we shouldn't select him. If he's scum, then we shouldn't select him. Therefore, we shouldn't select him I had a town read on him day one and didn't consider him as a lynch candidate day two. There are plenty of people I'd go after before him going forward. | ||
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