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On December 03 2012 10:32 Hapahauli wrote:Show nested quote +On December 03 2012 10:29 Promethelax wrote:
Keir: you and I agree on Hapa I see. I still think that the hos error makes him look scummy but I do not belive that he is lying about it and, like you, would probably choose to not play with him again if he is.
Hapa: in an hp game shooting someone for a little is not a bad way of distancing scum from scu. I don't se that as a town tell and I see you not seeing that as slightly scummy. I'm having trouble reading you here because of the contradiction in my gut read on you and my reading read. (scum / null, respectively).
Clarity: the night you claimed 125 damage after my sheild was on you you took 325 but my shield blocked 200. Roleblocks please claim. Ok ignore the Toad shooting - why would I put such heavy suspicion on Toad and visibly want to lynch him on D2, when Sandroba was an easy bussing option? You're saying that myself (as hypothetical scum), would have turned down an easy lynch in favor of putting suspicion on ANOTHER of my scumbuddies? That makes no sense from a scum-perspective.
in a normal mafia game that makes no sense. In this one I'm not so sure, getting major distance from each other and leading/getting into parties seems like the way for mafia to win.
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On December 03 2012 10:38 iamperfection wrote:Show nested quote +On December 03 2012 10:34 Promethelax wrote:On December 03 2012 10:32 Hapahauli wrote:On December 03 2012 10:29 Promethelax wrote:
Keir: you and I agree on Hapa I see. I still think that the hos error makes him look scummy but I do not belive that he is lying about it and, like you, would probably choose to not play with him again if he is.
Hapa: in an hp game shooting someone for a little is not a bad way of distancing scum from scu. I don't se that as a town tell and I see you not seeing that as slightly scummy. I'm having trouble reading you here because of the contradiction in my gut read on you and my reading read. (scum / null, respectively).
Clarity: the night you claimed 125 damage after my sheild was on you you took 325 but my shield blocked 200. Roleblocks please claim. Ok ignore the Toad shooting - why would I put such heavy suspicion on Toad and visibly want to lynch him on D2, when Sandroba was an easy bussing option? You're saying that myself (as hypothetical scum), would have turned down an easy lynch in favor of putting suspicion on ANOTHER of my scumbuddies? That makes no sense from a scum-perspective. in a normal mafia game that makes no sense. In this one I'm not so sure, getting major distance from each other and leading/getting into parties seems like the way for mafia to win. so which one is it?
those aren't two different things. I think that one player selling two others under the bus could benefit mafia due to failing missions. Not real sure.
Hapa: I always have my conspiracy hat on and yes, I always guy read you as scum. But having a null read on you when I look only at your filter isn't something I've experienced before.
Kier: you have a good meta sense of Hapa, your full read?
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I just said?
gut = scum
brain = null
and that is getting to me. My gut always says scum on Hapa but my brain usually figures him as town. He is not a scum read but he is not a town read either. Which is mindfucking me.
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On December 03 2012 10:54 Keirathi wrote:Show nested quote +On December 03 2012 10:40 Promethelax wrote:
Kier: you have a good meta sense of Hapa, your full read? Sorry I'm watching IPL. I don't really know Hapa's meta. This and GSL 3 are the only games I've played with him, and I haven't followed his other games very closely.
Do me a favour. When you have time do a little meta on him.
What are your thoughts on SnB? I've only played with him once before (mtg) and this feels...different now that I go re read that game. That was heavily themed like this and SnB was all up in everyone's face doing his thign. Here he is too back seet to be the same guy but look at WLIIA he was just as in your face but was scum. This, to me, is a new SnB. Also he hit me. I don't like that.
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On December 03 2012 11:02 iamperfection wrote:Show nested quote +On December 03 2012 10:59 Promethelax wrote:On December 03 2012 10:54 Keirathi wrote:On December 03 2012 10:40 Promethelax wrote:
Kier: you have a good meta sense of Hapa, your full read? Sorry I'm watching IPL. I don't really know Hapa's meta. This and GSL 3 are the only games I've played with him, and I haven't followed his other games very closely. Do me a favour. When you have time do a little meta on him. What are your thoughts on SnB? I've only played with him once before (mtg) and this feels...different now that I go re read that game. That was heavily themed like this and SnB was all up in everyone's face doing his thign. Here he is too back seet to be the same guy but look at WLIIA he was just as in your face but was scum. This, to me, is a new SnB. Also he hit me. I don't like that. he only has 2.5 games as scum you obs'd the last one and where in one is he that hard for you?
wat? Man, write that again but in English this time. I have no idea what you are asking. Ask Syllo about your roleblock, wasn't me.
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On December 03 2012 11:06 iamperfection wrote:Show nested quote +On December 03 2012 11:04 Promethelax wrote:On December 03 2012 11:02 iamperfection wrote:On December 03 2012 10:59 Promethelax wrote:On December 03 2012 10:54 Keirathi wrote:On December 03 2012 10:40 Promethelax wrote:
Kier: you have a good meta sense of Hapa, your full read? Sorry I'm watching IPL. I don't really know Hapa's meta. This and GSL 3 are the only games I've played with him, and I haven't followed his other games very closely. Do me a favour. When you have time do a little meta on him. What are your thoughts on SnB? I've only played with him once before (mtg) and this feels...different now that I go re read that game. That was heavily themed like this and SnB was all up in everyone's face doing his thign. Here he is too back seet to be the same guy but look at WLIIA he was just as in your face but was scum. This, to me, is a new SnB. Also he hit me. I don't like that. he only has 2.5 games as scum you obs'd the last one and where in one is he that hard for you? wat? Man, write that again but in English this time. I have no idea what you are asking. Ask Syllo about your roleblock, wasn't me. im talking about hapa
No, I got that, I just have no idea what you are asking? Have I ever had this hard a time reading him? No. I have not.
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On December 03 2012 11:07 iamperfection wrote:
basically prom for the last two pages you have been" say oh man this is so hard why cant i read hapa poor me". Make A READ
My read is null. Slightly scummy because it is null. Which I have said already. Only reason I've said it so much is you keep asking the same damn question.
Imagine this line
Scum-----------------------------------------:----null---------------------------------------------------------town
Hapa is the colon.
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K-dizzle, I think you are misreading Imp. He asked 'where in one [of those games] is [hapa] this hard for you [to read]. I think.
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in LC Hapa was mod confrimed scum within about an hour of playing. What are you asking?
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Haps, the mechanics in this game are different than in a normal game. We win by defeating lavos, not by lynching all scum. Therefore it does not hurt scum the same way to lose members. I think (though obviously am not sure) that scum could gain a great benefit by busing their teammates super hard early game to get on the party. The fact that you refuse to acknowledge this difference from a regular game is worrying to me, you are a smart guy and the fact that you are not being paranoid about this game doesn't sit well with me.
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On December 03 2012 11:30 Hapahauli wrote:Show nested quote +On December 03 2012 11:20 Promethelax wrote:
Haps, the mechanics in this game are different than in a normal game. We win by defeating lavos, not by lynching all scum. Therefore it does not hurt scum the same way to lose members. I think (though obviously am not sure) that scum could gain a great benefit by busing their teammates super hard early game to get on the party. The fact that you refuse to acknowledge this difference from a regular game is worrying to me, you are a smart guy and the fact that you are not being paranoid about this game doesn't sit well with me.
Oh please. You act like lynching scum isn't a major objective of the game. If you think a double-bus is a viable strategy as scum on day freggin two... I dont' care if it's a heavily themed game - I'm at a loss for words.
double bus when we didn't have another lynch for three cycles and you get to make these arguments...makes sense to me. Sure I'm paranoid because of how I think scum should be played and I usually suspect better players of being scum just by virtue of being better players.
Look, you and Imp and I are shitting up the thread and it is time to stop it. If we are all town (imp is in my town column and you could be town) we need to step it up and instead of chasing each others' tails get back to the business at hand.
Hapa, why is Phag the most scummy player in this game?
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Iamp: I have been giving my null read on Hapa every time you ask but you haven't given an anything read on anyone recently. Who do you want to lynch and why?
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VE is scum. Discuss. (yes I have reasons)
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Phag is null to me at this moment. He was on the townie side of null early but has receded to null. I think I need to read some Phag games to see if he plays like this all the time. I was reading him as more newbie than anything else really.
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thank you for proving my point. We, as a whole, need to stop this. Yes, you are shitting up the thread. Now stop it.
VE=scum.
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On November 29 2012 13:11 iamperfection wrote:Show nested quote +On November 29 2012 13:08 Promethelax wrote:On November 29 2012 13:06 iamperfection wrote:
you have reservations about sylo prom? I do. I've posted them before but yeah, I want some input though because I am made out of paranoia and might just be totally wrong. (if you aren't sure about how paranoid I am go look at ACME where I intentionally got Acro to roleclaim roleblocker so that scum would kill him if he was town). i will have to look at it tomorrow but from my natural reading of the thread i have seen nothing.
How did this look go? You did not follow through at all Imp. Tell me your thinks.
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On December 03 2012 11:47 iamperfection wrote:Show nested quote +On December 03 2012 11:46 Promethelax wrote:
thank you for proving my point. We, as a whole, need to stop this. Yes, you are shitting up the thread. Now stop it.
VE=scum. why he just hasn't been here at all why does that = scum in terms of ve
Because VE has done something no townie VE would do. He has waited for others to make cases and made his own cases to sheep those. He also listens to the cases of the people he thinks are scum. (He had Hapa as scum but Hapa made a case on me so I was scum. I made a case on GK so VE made a case on GK). VE=Scum.
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On December 03 2012 11:51 iamperfection wrote:Show nested quote +On December 03 2012 11:50 Promethelax wrote:On December 03 2012 11:47 iamperfection wrote:On December 03 2012 11:46 Promethelax wrote:
thank you for proving my point. We, as a whole, need to stop this. Yes, you are shitting up the thread. Now stop it.
VE=scum. why he just hasn't been here at all why does that = scum in terms of ve Because VE has done something no townie VE would do. He has waited for others to make cases and made his own cases to sheep those. He also listens to the cases of the people he thinks are scum. (He had Hapa as scum but Hapa made a case on me so I was scum. I made a case on GK so VE made a case on GK). VE=Scum. isnt ve super active as scum?
VE is super active as a player. Inactivity is not a scum/town tell from him.
also going to end of time with Epoch. Sounds cool and we might gain powers.
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No, no no. You don't get it. A town VE would be direct and say lolol no idea whats going on dude over here seems scummy. It is the way he asks to be forgiven for not reading the thread and only makes easy cases on players who already have cases on them which says scum.
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