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marvellosity
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On November 26 2012 12:53 Oatsmaster wrote: Marv its like 5am right? How are you able to be up at this time? :O coming up to 4am, and yes i shall be going to sleep very shortly and i should already be asleep. Distracted by things, ya know. | ||
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marvellosity
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On November 26 2012 13:14 Acrofales wrote: Me. You derp. Start reading the thread. don't pull an s&b read the thread and then comment | ||
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marvellosity
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On November 26 2012 14:08 Acrofales wrote: I read that shit. I fail to see your point. You have some knowledge about what a frame busser does that is before Marv's explanation, because I sure as fuck don't. Marv claims it only busses roles, not damage. Where does he get that info? I'm sure you could work this out yourself, but I asked Greymist :> | ||
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marvellosity
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On November 26 2012 21:53 Promethelax wrote: because, though I had a town read on him at the time, the ability used on him by scum was a fram bus. Now I thought that was to try to frame him to come up red but it could be to frame him to come up green. Essentially one of the two guys targeted by that frame bus was scum and one was town. In this little hypothetical, why would mafia frame the party leader who was unanimously considered townie (by the fact he was party leader, if nothing else) | ||
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His games he plays are an inherent part of his role, and he may get certain rewards for succeeding them Part of his wincon is to be included on a (successful) party ta-da! | ||
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marvellosity
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On November 26 2012 22:16 Acrofales wrote: Okay, so your ability has no downsides. That makes it far more powerful than anything I have seen (or seen claimed) so far. I found Kush's ability pretty damned awesome: a PGO + dayvig? Sign me up! But at least it came with conditionals. I am not sure what to think about this claim. However, I am not making sense of it from a scum point of view either. Must've been a pretty stellar guess to know Marv was targeting Syllo. Either that, or scum has some kind of watcher, which doesn't make much sense at all. I was the only RB claim other than sand, remember | ||
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On November 26 2012 22:21 Clarity_nl wrote: Trying to put the pieces together, could you expand on your thoughts? He fits the typical 3rd party profile. Kinda has town interests at heart, but only ish - for example his stuff on sandroba. But is posting less and is less incisive than I expect to see from town kita. With regards to part of his wincon being in a party, successful or no, he ran for party leader day 1, and his only meaningful post this cycle was insisting he had demonstrated his townieness and should be included in the party, even though absolutely no-one else thinks that. As regards to the games, they seem out of place as a method for anyone to deal damage. Then there is the fact that mysteriously he's had both games now and no-one else has. It makes much more sense that it's part of his role that he has to play these games than they were inflicted upon him. | ||
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marvellosity
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On November 26 2012 22:22 Promethelax wrote: Marv: based on the research I just did: http://chrono.wikia.com/wiki/Norstein_Bekkler's_Tent_of_Horrors for kita makes some sense. also this is awesome and makes sense. Anyway, I don't want to dwell on it too much. I just wanted it out there that it's what I thought (and was worried it was getting buried by you guys arguing  ) | ||
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marvellosity
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On November 26 2012 22:31 Clarity_nl wrote: Yeah, I can see that that is more likely 3rd party than town, but the thing that I'm certain of is that he's not scum at this point.... Meaning we can leave him alone, right? I'm not certain he's not scum, but I like my explanation. Yes, we don't have to worry about him too much right now I think. Possibly. Just don't trust him. | ||
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On November 26 2012 22:51 Promethelax wrote: Marv: why would scum put up their (presumably) three best players as candidates day 1? That is Sand, Toad and Kita. oh yeah. that does sound kinda unlikely. | ||
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I understand running 2, because you can try to consolidate behind the 1 who looks more likely. 3 seems like spreading yourself too thin. | ||
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On November 26 2012 23:03 Promethelax wrote: so kita=/=scum, Kita=3p in your mind? yeah, 3rd party is my best guess. And unlike some other people I don't throw it around lightly (too many 3rd party reads in this game). My last two 3rd party reads (rock band, liquid city) have been bang on. | ||
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On November 26 2012 23:13 Promethelax wrote: you were scum in LC but you were magical town jailer of doom in Rockband so I'll accept that. Kita: name claim please? I was indeed scum in LC, but after BC was protected night 1 (a perfectly natural protect) I still deduced during Day 2 that he was 3rd party from his play ^_^ Also, I like magical town jailer of doom. | ||
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On November 26 2012 23:27 risk.nuke wrote: Theoretically, the more of them that run the higher chances townies will pick one of them up to be elected. And Syllo. I can also write 4 names and point fingers while conveniently claiming that I can change any name anytime I want because I haven't read the thread. If you're going to show up then do it right or don't bother. I actually agree with this. At the moment I trust my judgement over everyone else's including syllo, as he's gone all conspiracy on us. | ||
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On November 26 2012 23:28 Djodref wrote: Ok guys, just a quick comment regarding the last developments of the thread, I find that Prome is getting way too much heat for the all the role-related stuff. Arguments like "your role is imb4 for town, you must be scum" are wrong, just plain wrong. Never trust Grey, right ? Moreover, the events corroborate the story. So I don't see why we should doubt this at this point. Regarding Acro, I personally think that he is taking too much heat, even if not wanting to be in the party seems suspicious at first sight. I would say it's role or ability related (his own ability or targeted by another player). And like, there are players whose behavior is not acceptable at all. For example, let's say that Toad, VE, Adam and S&B are the mafia players left. They would have nothing do to and could just watch the town atmosphere rotten. There are too many damn lurkers and I hate this because we have nothing for or against them ! Anyway, I have decided to step up and I'm going to officially announce that I'm going to inflict some damage tonight, and it's going to be one player among iamp, S&B, VE and Adam. I have not been using this since the beginning of this game so it's gonna hurt. Be warned. I would like anyone who is pissed off by their attitude (seriously Adam, you and your "I'm lurking and I assume" attitude, I hope that you are going to die tonight), to join me and to inflict some damage on these players. I'm on this for real and I would guess that some other players would have no problem to join me as well  Any ability you have to pressure the fucking lurkers (ie not using against the mafia), just use it against them, for the future sake of the town and also to teach them how to play. Who is in ? please don't hit s&b, I've metad him town for the moment. | ||
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On November 26 2012 23:34 syllogism wrote: I've very strong reasons for considering Prom mafia, so how about directing your damage that way. Also you are just plain wrong in saying that whether his role seems ridiculous or not is irrelevant, just like you were yesterday when you were telling everyone how wrong they were about sandroba. If you are town, how about not arguing against me every single day syllo, perhaps you do, but you're not communicating them very effectively to the rest of us, which is kinda important. | ||
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On November 26 2012 23:37 syllogism wrote: As a basically confirmed town with some deserved credibility and as someone who does not make strong statements lightly how about taking my word for it No. You should know by now I do like sheeping you, having done so for practically the entirity of Bureaucracy, voted you first here for party leader, and finally voted sandroba on the basis I trusted you. But if something doesn't make sense to me I'm not gonna blindly follow. You should understand this. | ||
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