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Clarity_nl
Profile Joined November 2011
Netherlands6826 Posts
November 27 2012 14:28 GMT
#4135
On November 27 2012 23:26 iamperfection wrote:
and i healed you this cycle


Ah, that does make sense. But I didn't know about you healing marv so...
FIGHT THE GOOD FIGHT AGAINST STUPIDITY CLARITY, I BELIEVE IN YOU! - Palmar
Clarity_nl
Profile Joined November 2011
Netherlands6826 Posts
November 27 2012 14:29 GMT
#4137
Does anyone want to counter-claim iamp healing me?
FIGHT THE GOOD FIGHT AGAINST STUPIDITY CLARITY, I BELIEVE IN YOU! - Palmar
Clarity_nl
Profile Joined November 2011
Netherlands6826 Posts
November 27 2012 14:31 GMT
#4141
I healed him this cycle and he didn't mention it.
On November 27 2012 23:12 Hapahauli wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 27 2012 17:51 Clarity_nl wrote:
Hapa can you confirm that you took 100 damage last cycle, and 50 this cycle, please?


Confirmed. Toad claimed he hit me the first time. I'm not sure where the second bit came from.


What do you think of that?
FIGHT THE GOOD FIGHT AGAINST STUPIDITY CLARITY, I BELIEVE IN YOU! - Palmar
Clarity_nl
Profile Joined November 2011
Netherlands6826 Posts
November 27 2012 14:39 GMT
#4145
I asked the host if you still get notified of your heal or not, waiting for a response.

I'm all out of heals now though, guys, so you're on your own TT
FIGHT THE GOOD FIGHT AGAINST STUPIDITY CLARITY, I BELIEVE IN YOU! - Palmar
Clarity_nl
Profile Joined November 2011
Netherlands6826 Posts
November 27 2012 14:40 GMT
#4146
On November 27 2012 23:38 iamperfection wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 27 2012 23:31 Clarity_nl wrote:
I healed him this cycle and he didn't mention it.
On November 27 2012 23:12 Hapahauli wrote:
On November 27 2012 17:51 Clarity_nl wrote:
Hapa can you confirm that you took 100 damage last cycle, and 50 this cycle, please?


Confirmed. Toad claimed he hit me the first time. I'm not sure where the second bit came from.


What do you think of that?

you would have to ask him i thought your heal was 1 shot?


Yeah I had a couple of 1 shots.
FIGHT THE GOOD FIGHT AGAINST STUPIDITY CLARITY, I BELIEVE IN YOU! - Palmar
Clarity_nl
Profile Joined November 2011
Netherlands6826 Posts
November 27 2012 14:43 GMT
#4149
You mind telling me how much you healed me for?
FIGHT THE GOOD FIGHT AGAINST STUPIDITY CLARITY, I BELIEVE IN YOU! - Palmar
Clarity_nl
Profile Joined November 2011
Netherlands6826 Posts
November 27 2012 14:48 GMT
#4154
Okay that's fair.

Hapa if you really were thankful you'd vote me!
Anyway, I'll be around today but I won't be reading much filters and such, will mainly just answer questions and reply to stuff if I feel like it. This is a rest day
FIGHT THE GOOD FIGHT AGAINST STUPIDITY CLARITY, I BELIEVE IN YOU! - Palmar
Clarity_nl
Profile Joined November 2011
Netherlands6826 Posts
November 27 2012 14:49 GMT
#4155
On November 27 2012 23:48 iamperfection wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 27 2012 23:47 Hapahauli wrote:
On November 27 2012 23:42 iamperfection wrote:
which means hapa wasn't dmg cycle 1


I assure you I was. If you don't believe me, I claimed 100 damage pretty early on in the cycle and Toad mentioned he shot me as a "+EV shot" or something (before he was confirmed scum to the thread). So where's the theory here? That Toad and I are scumbuddies? That he didn't just shoot me in self-preservation after I was one of the few to press for his lynch D2?

then why didn't you report my heal?


Either he's lying, or it's the same with me where he gets damaged more than the heal heals, so he doesn't get notified (but the damage lowers.

I find the latter more likely atm but we'll see
FIGHT THE GOOD FIGHT AGAINST STUPIDITY CLARITY, I BELIEVE IN YOU! - Palmar
Clarity_nl
Profile Joined November 2011
Netherlands6826 Posts
November 27 2012 14:54 GMT
#4160
LOL I bet you liked that one Mementoss
FIGHT THE GOOD FIGHT AGAINST STUPIDITY CLARITY, I BELIEVE IN YOU! - Palmar
Clarity_nl
Profile Joined November 2011
Netherlands6826 Posts
November 27 2012 14:55 GMT
#4161
He was like fuck it, 6 minutes early, this is good timing
FIGHT THE GOOD FIGHT AGAINST STUPIDITY CLARITY, I BELIEVE IN YOU! - Palmar
Clarity_nl
Profile Joined November 2011
Netherlands6826 Posts
November 27 2012 15:34 GMT
#4167
Mementoss told me as far as he's concerned that's how it is. He did say he's not 100% sure and I should check with greymist, so I'm waiting on a reply.

So hapa, I healed you for 100. So you're saying you took 150 damage and I healed you for 100 so your PM said you took 50 damage?
FIGHT THE GOOD FIGHT AGAINST STUPIDITY CLARITY, I BELIEVE IN YOU! - Palmar
Clarity_nl
Profile Joined November 2011
Netherlands6826 Posts
November 27 2012 15:36 GMT
#4169
On November 28 2012 00:35 Djodref wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 28 2012 00:28 iamperfection wrote:
On November 28 2012 00:26 Hapahauli wrote:
On November 27 2012 23:48 iamperfection wrote:
On November 27 2012 23:47 Hapahauli wrote:
On November 27 2012 23:42 iamperfection wrote:
which means hapa wasn't dmg cycle 1


I assure you I was. If you don't believe me, I claimed 100 damage pretty early on in the cycle and Toad mentioned he shot me as a "+EV shot" or something (before he was confirmed scum to the thread). So where's the theory here? That Toad and I are scumbuddies? That he didn't just shoot me in self-preservation after I was one of the few to press for his lynch D2?

then why didn't you report my heal?


Because I didn't receive notification of a heal >>

So either
a) You didn't heal me (but I don't know why you'd lie about that)
b) I took more than 100 damage

uh let me go check something.

From my understanding you receive a notification as long as the heal does actual healing.


Healing and damage prevention are different things imo.
Do you know if a targeted players dies after or before damage prevention ? Do you see my point ?


I already asked this, I got told that all healing/damage/damage prevention happens at the same time. So if someone at 50 hp is being damage for 50 and healed for 1 the person would live.
FIGHT THE GOOD FIGHT AGAINST STUPIDITY CLARITY, I BELIEVE IN YOU! - Palmar
Clarity_nl
Profile Joined November 2011
Netherlands6826 Posts
November 27 2012 19:37 GMT
#4253
On November 28 2012 02:26 TheChronicler wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 28 2012 01:31 Acrofales wrote:
Shit. You people, can't you keep your conclusions about survivors to yourselves?

Seeing as the cat's pretty much out of the bag, I confirm I'm 3rd party. My wincon is to survive and do some stuff that I am not telling anybody about. I promise that the extra stuff is in town's best interest. Not saying anything more, because I suspect there are other people out there who have to kill me. Otherwise Drazerk's solution to playing a survivor will always work: claim D1 and go AFK (or in this case, claim D1 and help town to figure out how to fulfill the other part of my wincon, THEN go AFK).

This is also immediately the reason I don't want to be on a party. I asked Greymist whether my influence counts with town or scum, or whether I could choose. He told me that I cannot choose and that he's not saying what my influence counts as. I have no way of knowing my hidden influence factor. So.. no. There is no contradiction between my not wanting to be on the party and being really surprised at Keirathi's claim.

Think about it, though: scum was probably not feeling too comfortable on D3. D1 went town's way, D2 went further town's way. Why would they NOT want to take any opportunity to get on the party? Claiming not wanting to be on the party would be a ridiculously stupid move, unless you think scum is so afraid of being caught out through the party mechanic that they are going to hide all game while town figures them out and kills them one by one on the few lynch days we get?

Oh, I can claim some other stuff: I have a load of one-shot abilities, but don't know what they do. Part of my suspicions of Drazerk are founded on this: he claims to be able to figure out what his abilities do before using them. I am unable and have to use them and pray. I can make an educated guess using common sense and some help from the chronopedia to figure out what is likely, but I cannot know for certain. Not giving ability names either, as they are 100% linked to my character name.

On D1 I used an ability that I thought would mason me with 3 other people. Instead it did 75 damage to each of them. I hit Sandroba, Dienosore and BioSC with it. I wanted to chat with Sandroba and BioSC to figure out if they were scum or not. I wanted to chat with Dienosore about setup-related stuff that largely got resolved in the thread.

I already said what I did D2.

D3 I cannot reveal, as it says too much about me. This is the only one I breadcrumbed, though, so if I ever feel safe in claiming my name in full, you will be able to check it.



@Hopeless1derp: I have called you an idiot too many times this game, already, but here goes again. On the offchance you are really town (which I really don't think): you're an idiot. OF COURSE you want Lavos to appear when scum is dead. Fairly certain killing Lavos with scum alive is going to be harder than killing him with scum dead. It doesn't look like there's much opportunity to kill scum, so wasting whatever abilities you have to kill scum on me is beyond ridiculous. I also have rather a lot of HP and things that I really really suspect are heals.

There is 0 point to killing me and I am helping town as best I can. I have done more scumhunting than pretty much anybody except Marv. I was wrong on Sandroba, so /shrug. However, I DID find Toad. If you prefer I shut up and go afk for the rest of the game, say so. I am happy to leave you derps derping it up. This time I don't give a shit if the endgame has Kushes Fubas and Proms in it: I just need to not get killed once I have completed my other condition, which I am fairly confident I can do without your help.

*cough* *cough*

I'm broke. I have no more checks, I can't protect anyone else. There's a reason I didn't check hopeless against Toad. There's a reason I didn't check YOU against Toad.

Clarity between the two of us that means Marv took something greater than or equal to 550 damage if I'm adding correctly?


Ehm, if this was used on marv:
On November 27 2012 10:55 TheChronicler wrote:
I'm going to claim my last night action since it's relevant and why I feel I shouldn't be party leader, but should be on the team.

100 gold Funnel cake You target a player. Places a 100 damage shield on target player (stays on them). You take 100 damage.

Night Results
You used Funnel cake!

You took 150 damage!


And isn't a lie, then yes. Marv took 550 damage last cycle.
FIGHT THE GOOD FIGHT AGAINST STUPIDITY CLARITY, I BELIEVE IN YOU! - Palmar
Clarity_nl
Profile Joined November 2011
Netherlands6826 Posts
November 27 2012 19:38 GMT
#4254
We have to consider the possibility that scum can withhold kp, or they had a 1-shot instakill (which would be weird to hold for so long only to use it on marv anyway)
FIGHT THE GOOD FIGHT AGAINST STUPIDITY CLARITY, I BELIEVE IN YOU! - Palmar
Clarity_nl
Profile Joined November 2011
Netherlands6826 Posts
November 27 2012 19:50 GMT
#4255
I have had time to read up on TC and I agree with Dieno that he would probably be the best 4th pick right now, despite some terrible plays this game.

This makes my party identical to that of Dieno's, unfortunately, so the only thing I have to run on is the fact that iamp more than likely healed me up to full, so any item given to me will be better than having it on Dieno.
If anyone disagrees with this I would love an explanation, but until such time I expect your votes.
FIGHT THE GOOD FIGHT AGAINST STUPIDITY CLARITY, I BELIEVE IN YOU! - Palmar
Clarity_nl
Profile Joined November 2011
Netherlands6826 Posts
November 27 2012 19:56 GMT
#4259
Except for the fact that we know Dieno took a boatload of damage already.
FIGHT THE GOOD FIGHT AGAINST STUPIDITY CLARITY, I BELIEVE IN YOU! - Palmar
Clarity_nl
Profile Joined November 2011
Netherlands6826 Posts
November 27 2012 20:00 GMT
#4264
On November 28 2012 04:58 Acrofales wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 28 2012 04:56 Clarity_nl wrote:
Except for the fact that we know Dieno took a boatload of damage already.

Ok. My vote is on Keir, though.


I realize and I would prefer that over Dieno, although obviously not over myself.
I think the votes on Dieno are misguided. Like people don't want to think about it anymore, laziness
FIGHT THE GOOD FIGHT AGAINST STUPIDITY CLARITY, I BELIEVE IN YOU! - Palmar
Clarity_nl
Profile Joined November 2011
Netherlands6826 Posts
November 27 2012 20:04 GMT
#4267
I'll have to go back and look, but I interpreted it as "I won't be dying this cycle because I got protected"
FIGHT THE GOOD FIGHT AGAINST STUPIDITY CLARITY, I BELIEVE IN YOU! - Palmar
Clarity_nl
Profile Joined November 2011
Netherlands6826 Posts
November 27 2012 20:04 GMT
#4269
Oats also claimed his item had nothing to do with lore...
FIGHT THE GOOD FIGHT AGAINST STUPIDITY CLARITY, I BELIEVE IN YOU! - Palmar
Clarity_nl
Profile Joined November 2011
Netherlands6826 Posts
November 27 2012 20:08 GMT
#4271
I don't see us failing this mission but I'd just like the item to be in the correct place. I'm not gonna fight tooth and nail for it.
FIGHT THE GOOD FIGHT AGAINST STUPIDITY CLARITY, I BELIEVE IN YOU! - Palmar
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