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Promethelax
Profile Joined February 2012
Canada7089 Posts
November 27 2012 03:32 GMT
#3985
watch out Kier, you've been passively accusing him all game. That probably makes you scum and stuff.
TL Mafia. Love it. Play it. http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/index.php?show_part=31 I find Kennigit really attractive. If anyone has a picture of him please feel free to PM it to me.
Promethelax
Profile Joined February 2012
Canada7089 Posts
November 27 2012 03:38 GMT
#3988
On November 27 2012 12:35 Hapahauli wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 27 2012 12:32 Promethelax wrote:
watch out Kier, you've been passively accusing him all game. That probably makes you scum and stuff.


If he'd been doing it for 12 pages, and called me his top scumread w/out making a case, I'd agree.


man, definite article and indefinite article mean totally different things. You were one of my top scum reads (ergo: "a top scumread). Looking back through your filter instead of looking at how your play feels I have more of a null read on you. As I mentioned there are good reasons to point to your scumminess and good reasons which point towards your townieness.
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Promethelax
Profile Joined February 2012
Canada7089 Posts
November 27 2012 04:09 GMT
#4001
On November 27 2012 12:47 Djodref wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 27 2012 12:13 Promethelax wrote:
well now that I go look at it objectively yes. Through the whole game I've felt that he was scummy. There are a few things I can point out and say they are super scummy (trying to take leader position over 'confirmed' town) but there are a few that I can point to and go 'oooooooooooh so townie' (opposition to Toad early).

Now I'm null, or go back and forth wanting to hang him and hug him my heart and my head can't agree, but want to look deeper into him after some more flips give me some context.


@Prom

Trying to take the leader position over a "confirmed" town is not super scummy at all. The "confirmed" town is never 100% confirmed. The only thing town players know are their own alignment so it's natural for them to propose themselves as a party leader. I trust myself more than anyone esle here. The fact you consider this a super scummy lead me to think that you didn't think this candidature issue with a town mentality.
Also, even if you were confidant than sandro was scum during our second cycle, nothing was preventing you from building a case and put some heavy pressure on Hapa, something you didn't do.



I disagree with you totally. Wanting it and thinking that others should vote you aren't the same. I want to be in the party. I know it won't happen so I support the guy who I think should be and detract from the guy who shouldn't.
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Promethelax
Profile Joined February 2012
Canada7089 Posts
November 27 2012 07:25 GMT
#4047
On November 27 2012 15:28 syllogism wrote:
Wait, Prom now says his ability only roleblocks the first person who targets the player he targets and it doesn't block mafia KP?


just popping in but no. It roleblocks everyone who targets my target and it does not block mafia kp. The confusion you are having is when I used 'first' to differentiate the target from the targeter. My ability is used on one dude. All the other dudes who target that dude get RB'd. Factional kp can still target that dude. Sorry for the confusion.
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Promethelax
Profile Joined February 2012
Canada7089 Posts
November 27 2012 07:48 GMT
#4052
On November 27 2012 16:40 syllogism wrote:
Prom why did you only take 25 damage when I hit you for 75?


nothing to do with my role. Someone must have protected me. .
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Promethelax
Profile Joined February 2012
Canada7089 Posts
November 27 2012 08:02 GMT
#4061
umm...Djo, please, let me defend myself. I have that ability and am quite willing to keep answering Syllo and Hapa's bullshit. Though Hapa at least has a case which seems to be based on thinking.

Please remove Djo from the party. I do not trust him and neither should you. He is defending one of the guys with the most pressure on him (me) and answering for me. The only reason for this is to gain town cred. Kier has a town read on me which he explains the reasoning for. Djo has an "I am promethelax" read on himself. He has been hard defending me this whole time based on my claimed actions and the fact that they makes sense. No idea why he does this but it reads as a sucm attempt to gain credit with town while leaving himself open for a switch by not looking at my play.

Honestly I would love being flipped at this point, people seem to be pretty caught up in how scummy I am and having me out of the picture might allow some people (*Cough Syllo) to take their heads out of their asses. Eh, medics: do not protect me. I can't be here in a LYLO situation as town will not trust me. Allow me to use my powers and do my thing while I live but if mafia / town wants to kill me we'll be in a better spot with Syllo being forced to do something instead of just tunneling me.
TL Mafia. Love it. Play it. http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/index.php?show_part=31 I find Kennigit really attractive. If anyone has a picture of him please feel free to PM it to me.
Promethelax
Profile Joined February 2012
Canada7089 Posts
November 27 2012 08:04 GMT
#4063
I was going to, yes. I got RB'd last night though. I wanted to protect him since I figured the weakend player between Oats/Dieno would be hit.
TL Mafia. Love it. Play it. http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/index.php?show_part=31 I find Kennigit really attractive. If anyone has a picture of him please feel free to PM it to me.
Promethelax
Profile Joined February 2012
Canada7089 Posts
November 27 2012 08:04 GMT
#4065
great, that'll help town a lot. Keep it up bud.
TL Mafia. Love it. Play it. http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/index.php?show_part=31 I find Kennigit really attractive. If anyone has a picture of him please feel free to PM it to me.
Promethelax
Profile Joined February 2012
Canada7089 Posts
November 27 2012 08:08 GMT
#4066
how does this sound? Don't RB me and I'll full claim in my first post of next cycle. That way scum can't know what to expect and you'll be able to wifom over what role GreYMisT would or would not put int the game.
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Promethelax
Profile Joined February 2012
Canada7089 Posts
November 27 2012 08:12 GMT
#4068
in what way will that help town? Explain it to me like I'm as retarded as you think I am and I'll consider it.
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Promethelax
Profile Joined February 2012
Canada7089 Posts
November 27 2012 08:20 GMT
#4071
right, good good. Now explain why it benefits town for me to claim. don't tell me you want to know my role just because you want to. I think you summed it up pretty well, I am refusing to provide the information you require. But not information that town requires.
TL Mafia. Love it. Play it. http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/index.php?show_part=31 I find Kennigit really attractive. If anyone has a picture of him please feel free to PM it to me.
Promethelax
Profile Joined February 2012
Canada7089 Posts
November 27 2012 08:27 GMT
#4074
you are in this game. Don't you popcorn me. have an opinion, state it and play the damn game.

should I claim my full ability etc. and why?

Is Syllo being dumb on purpose? (no need for a why here, we'll find out eventually)
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Promethelax
Profile Joined February 2012
Canada7089 Posts
November 27 2012 08:35 GMT
#4076
okay, well I'd like more input before I decide to tell my whole role but I don't think my name is worth protecting.

I am the Zeal Plant Woman and my abilities are all plant related.

name bread crumbs:
On November 21 2012 12:57 Promethelax wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 21 2012 12:53 Clarity_nl wrote:
Sharing is caring?


Sharing is great when votes are made, It is early in the day and allowing everyone to continue to play without knowledge of each others town reads is probably for the best. No need for scum to get a chance to plant seeds of doubt on our town reads or to keep working on rowing themselves as townies if we have green reads on them right now.

You'll know my town read when I am confidant enough in it to place a vote. I'd like to learn Acro's at the same time.


plant seeds, growing and green. because I am a plant woman.

On November 24 2012 15:21 Promethelax wrote:
Hey all, just checked the day post and this page, since the mission was successful and I'm pretty sure one or the other of Sand/Syllo is scum Vote ## Sand, mission success=Town Syllo (According to Ockham's laser)
I'm here and catching up (a million posts for me to read...). I'm all old and shit now.


This refers to antiquity, which is my time.
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Promethelax
Profile Joined February 2012
Canada7089 Posts
November 27 2012 08:40 GMT
#4078
Oats: if Syllo had not been on the mission d1 yes, I would have a huge scum read on him for his play. As it is I know that the razor of truth suggests town but there are some contradictions in his play (saying that people who go on successful quests should not be considered confirmed town/calling himself confirmed town for being on a successful quest)and the general tunnelness of his attacks on me.

Syllo: why did you not RB/damage someone d1? You claim to have a RB/Track ability and a damaging ability and that you used them in the same night (something I believe) so why didn't you use them n1? (as evidenced by only my roleblocks going through).
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Promethelax
Profile Joined February 2012
Canada7089 Posts
November 27 2012 08:46 GMT
#4081
On November 27 2012 17:45 Keirathi wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 27 2012 17:40 Promethelax wrote:
Oats: if Syllo had not been on the mission d1 yes, I would have a huge scum read on him for his play. As it is I know that the razor of truth suggests town but there are some contradictions in his play (saying that people who go on successful quests should not be considered confirmed town/calling himself confirmed town for being on a successful quest)and the general tunnelness of his attacks on me.

Syllo: why did you not RB/damage someone d1? You claim to have a RB/Track ability and a damaging ability and that you used them in the same night (something I believe) so why didn't you use them n1? (as evidenced by only my roleblocks going through).

OH! That's probably what syllo's problem is. He rb'd sandroba night 1. It all makes sense now.


oh, okay, that actually totally makes sense. I hadn't thought of that. And yeah if he does 75 damage that would make sense too as most people seem to hit for 50 and sand claimed 125.
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Promethelax
Profile Joined February 2012
Canada7089 Posts
November 27 2012 08:47 GMT
#4082
Can you confirm that Syllo?
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Promethelax
Profile Joined February 2012
Canada7089 Posts
November 27 2012 08:58 GMT
#4090
Dammit Syllo: I was about to accept that you had a good reason for your crazy tunneling which I could understand and we'd reconcile and wander off into the sunset holding hands or whatever. Now I'm back to thinking that you are crazy.

If I full claim theoretically Syllo will back off and allow me to fully protect dieno from anything coming at him this cycle just as I intended to last cycle. I want dieno as the leader, Oats has confirmed that the reward was role based (I assume since he agreed with me that Deino would get Masamune), Syllo would you confirm/deny this as well please.
TL Mafia. Love it. Play it. http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/index.php?show_part=31 I find Kennigit really attractive. If anyone has a picture of him please feel free to PM it to me.
Promethelax
Profile Joined February 2012
Canada7089 Posts
November 27 2012 08:59 GMT
#4091
On November 27 2012 17:52 goodkarma wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 27 2012 17:45 Oatsmaster wrote:
ITEMS MY BOY, ITEMS.
Other than the fact that Djo defended you, which I think its his meta, is there anything else that makes you think he is scum?
I think that Dien should be leader at least to see if he gets his sword back+if all town's healing is on him, he probably wont die


You sure about that? Keep in mind he's heavily damaged, and Marv's reduce damage by half ability is gone. That's pretty huge...


assuming Syllo isn't lying there are still protective roles since I only took 25 damage last night.
TL Mafia. Love it. Play it. http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/index.php?show_part=31 I find Kennigit really attractive. If anyone has a picture of him please feel free to PM it to me.
Promethelax
Profile Joined February 2012
Canada7089 Posts
November 27 2012 09:06 GMT
#4093
off to sleep. Hopefully you can get something done while I'm away since me and Syllo won't be shit slinging.
TL Mafia. Love it. Play it. http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/index.php?show_part=31 I find Kennigit really attractive. If anyone has a picture of him please feel free to PM it to me.
Promethelax
Profile Joined February 2012
Canada7089 Posts
November 27 2012 20:43 GMT
#4278
On November 27 2012 20:04 Acrofales wrote:
Okay, turns out I didn't find Prom's roleclaim crumbs after all. Weird shit:

Show nested quote +
On November 21 2012 12:35 Promethelax wrote:
On November 21 2012 12:29 TheChronicler wrote:
On November 21 2012 12:27 Clarity_nl wrote:
On November 21 2012 12:25 TheChronicler wrote:
On November 21 2012 11:59 Oatsmaster wrote:
random fluff post,
Lotta Brazilians :O


Useless. Don't post like this.

On November 21 2012 12:14 Clarity_nl wrote:
I do not have any kind of read on anyone yet. He would be a good choice because if he's scum it'll show comparatively to his town play.


Who is he? I'm assuming Hapa.

----------------------------------------------

I'd like to be the party leader. I'm an unknown (hopefully) and no one will make stupid bullshit meta reads on the leader that would probably be worse than a coin flip. That's pretty much the only reason I want to lead. I don't even want to pick who will be the three on my team, which takes me to the next part of my pitch, and something I hope whoever is leader uses.

If I'm leader I don't want to choose the three people with me. I want to choose three people to choose three people who will be on the team. They can choose themselves if they'd like. Why do this? Because it gets us more information. If I'm not chosen leader I'd like the person who IS chosen to implement this system.

We still get information from who the leader chooses, AND we get information based upon who the three chosen people choose.


What in the actual fuck. Sure it's information but it's information impossible to decipher. Odds are you'll hit a scum somewhere in your massive pit of chaos but how will you tell the difference between him and the townie who just happened to get it wrong.


Scum will have to choose another person or risk showing their hand and causing the event to fail. Town can freely choose themselves since they know they'll only help with the event.

Doesn't seem chaotic to me. Why is it seeming chaotic to you?


This is fucking stupid. You are aware of this right? Everyone can and should pick themselves. Town know 100% that they are town and scum know that town 100% know themselves to be town so choosing anyone but themselves is butt fuck backwards. This explanation is well past pants on head.

Marv: while Hapa is a cute little hedgehog he is usually a responsive one. Not getting a scum read from his behavior but I am uncomfortable with him not explaining himself and getting defensive instead.

Why hedgehog? It is not an idiom I am familiar with (such as puppy). I thought this was a crumb for something.


A hedgehog because he was being so prickly. Defensive and a little bit smelly.

Okay, I've been thinking about this for the last few hours. I think I'll claim fully. I doubt this will help you get a town read on me but here goes.

I am "The Zeal Plant Woman" my time is antiquity. I have two active abilities

1) has been described over and over and over, I plant a seed on someone which, if it goes undisturbed for a full cycle it grows into a 200hp shield on the targeted player. If it is disturbed by any other player or players using their abilities on the target it role blocks all players who targeted my target. This ability resolves before other abilities so Sand's frame bus did not work. I can only have one seed planted per night, so if one already exists I cannot plant another until it either grows into a shield or is destroyed.

2) I have an ability which targets a single player and makes all actions done to either of us split evenly between us.

I have a passive mad hatter ability which does damage to a target of my choice when I die. This is part of the reason I asked to be flipped.

My night one action was using the first ability on Syllo
On night two I was going to seed Dieno but was too late sending in my actions
night three I tried to seed Dieno again but was roleblocked by Syllo. I also took 25 damage (meaning someone protected me for at least 50 HP according to Sylo).

As I said I don't think this will clear much up.
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