On December 02 2012 05:02 Dienosore wrote:
Concerning the most recent nights action, all I was told was that I was once again saved from death and masamune was restored. I followed up with a PM, asking a few questions that would help me cut through the vagueness. All questions about dmg taken and hp stuff were ignored.

Strongandbig claims that he targeted you on n1 with an ability that does 250 damage to you, but at the same time increases your max hp by 300 and "heals" you by 300 (so +50 net heal). He claims that the healing aspect doesn't count as a normal heal, so you aren't informed about that.

If you assume you took 300 less damage on n1, would the damage you received on n4 been enough to kill you

syllogism

Finland5948 Posts

December 01 2012 20:30 GMT

#5509

If there was a host error that went unnoticed for 2+ cycles even though host was there reading our conversations, I think Greymist should confirm. If you aren't lying about the error, what I said does not apply. You do not have to be angry, because it was all based on false assumptions.

Not confirming a mod error isn't any better than confirming it, in fact it is worse.

syllogism

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December 01 2012 20:38 GMT

#5510

The point is, mafia shouldn't be able to hide behind false claims about host making an error. There is no way for us, the players, to determine whether that is true or not (not exactly accurate, but close enough). That is not playing mafia and it should not be allowed.

syllogism

Finland5948 Posts

December 01 2012 20:41 GMT

#5512

And that was a completely unwarranted response to what I said.

syllogism

Finland5948 Posts

December 02 2012 09:34 GMT

#5590

No, risk recruited dieno last cycle and he isn't playing anymore. Presumably he will recruit someone new this cycle. No point discussing things in the QT instead of the thread and there isn't anything to discuss anyway.

Hapa and S&B can you two full claim? S&B feels more like a third party to me, but there seem to be so many of those already.

syllogism

Finland5948 Posts

December 02 2012 10:53 GMT

#5592

It would be informative, but at the same time I don't think we can do anything with the information right now, so it's probably safer not to have everyone claim.

syllogism

Finland5948 Posts

December 02 2012 11:37 GMT

#5595

Djodref why did you want Dieno on the party even though you couldn't actually guarantee his safety?

syllogism

Finland5948 Posts

December 02 2012 11:39 GMT

#5596

Oh Djodref hasn't been on a successful party yet, I was under impression that he had been. Maybe it's time to finally read your filter

syllogism

Finland5948 Posts

December 02 2012 11:42 GMT

#5597

You have been pushing the idea of you being on the party every day and it seems to me way more than you should have

syllogism

Finland5948 Posts

December 02 2012 11:50 GMT

#5598

It seems Hapa isn't the only player who matches how I would expect mafia to have played. Also, all your mafia reads so far have been bad and your defense of Prom reeks of too much information. I think this mission is going to fail.

syllogism

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December 02 2012 12:02 GMT

#5599

You also claimed that me and marv had a town read on you and that's why you should be on the team. I've actually only mentioned you once in a context that could be interpreted as that and even then I said I was uncertain. It appears to me you misinterpreted something that I said to push the idea of you being on the team. There is no reason for a town aligned person to be this eager to be on the team. Can you explain your motivation?

syllogism

Finland5948 Posts

December 02 2012 12:04 GMT

#5601

Cliff notes version: Djodref is mafia

syllogism

Finland5948 Posts

December 02 2012 12:09 GMT

#5603

You? I thought they targeted me. What makes you say that?

syllogism

Finland5948 Posts

December 02 2012 12:17 GMT

#5604

Prom why did Clarity take damage despite the seed shield?

syllogism

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December 02 2012 12:20 GMT

#5609

On December 02 2012 21:18 Clarity_nl wrote:

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Eh, I think it's town djo being overzealous, he does that. The protection would also seem like a weird ability for scum.
I heard no objections from anyone when I gave him a townread and when he said him and Dieno should be on the party.

I've been thinking about the setup and mafia must have either healing or protection roles, otherwise it's too easy for confirmed townies to get out of control. It's also weird that Dieno was hit for the second time even though Djodref claimed that he would keep him alive again. Also, why isn't mafia attempting to get rid of Djodref?

syllogism

Finland5948 Posts

December 02 2012 12:22 GMT

#5610

On December 02 2012 21:19 Clarity_nl wrote:

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I think the most logical answer is that the damage shown includes the 100 damage done to the shield.

Is it? But Djodref claims taking only 100 and he also "forgot" to claim it initially. Doesn't that seem a lot of damage anyway from an event?