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Promethelax
Profile Joined February 2012
Canada7089 Posts
November 26 2012 12:14 GMT
#3582
it is like you don't even read my posts Syllo. As if asking for reasons for your scum reads and reasons for the reasons for your town reads on scummy or lurking players is totally unreasonable.
TL Mafia. Love it. Play it. http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/index.php?show_part=31 I find Kennigit really attractive. If anyone has a picture of him please feel free to PM it to me.
Promethelax
Profile Joined February 2012
Canada7089 Posts
November 26 2012 12:15 GMT
#3585
welcome to all of my interactions with Syllo this whole game Acro. Make yourself comfortable, you'll be here a while.
TL Mafia. Love it. Play it. http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/index.php?show_part=31 I find Kennigit really attractive. If anyone has a picture of him please feel free to PM it to me.
Promethelax
Profile Joined February 2012
Canada7089 Posts
November 26 2012 12:34 GMT
#3591
On November 24 2012 18:10 syllogism wrote:
If you agree with me, I would rather not. I can give one example

Show nested quote +
The first part: can you honestly say that? I'm never one to give very precise reasoning for reads and it's more of a gut feeling most of the time, about a certain post or timing or w/e. I don't even understand how you came up with this one. Second part: fair enough, I didn't bother with this day1. I'm pretty sure prom and kita are scum at this point and almost sure on clarity. I'll try to provide proof in another post.

First of all, I'm not sure if I even made this argument (my problem is mostly content/wording/tone of his posts). He hasn't given any reads whatsoever besides maybe stating that Clarity_nl is "smelly". Our reads are usually precise and not gut based; definitely not "most of the time". I discuss reads and mafia lot with him and this is a complete misrepresentation of our usual thought process. Occasionally the reads can be based on a more general feeling, but it's always based on content, so for instance we may find certain sentence or post disingenuous, but it is almost always something that can be explained in more detail. There is no way sandroba believes that he is a gut based rather than reasoning based player.



Syllo on how he finds scum.
Syllo finding 'scum'
On November 26 2012 20:56 syllogism wrote:
If I had to name a five person mafia team on the spot without reading any of the filters. I would probably go with

sandro toad acro prom and maaaybe risk

The above risk-prom conversation feels off, as does the fact that risk decided to run today for election. He also supported sandro early and the post in which he declared his vote is suspicious in more ways than one. Anyway, this isn't relevant right now.


conclusion: Syllo disagrees with himself. I need these reads elaborated on. Right now, as I understand it, toad is cum ebcause of the two checks, I am red because my play feels 'off, Rik is red for his connection with me and Acro is red because he isn't the same as Iamp/Clar/Djo. Is that an accurate summery? Can you please, pretty please, fuccking cherries all over, make a case instead of just hemorrhaging confirmation basis into the thread.
TL Mafia. Love it. Play it. http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/index.php?show_part=31 I find Kennigit really attractive. If anyone has a picture of him please feel free to PM it to me.
Promethelax
Profile Joined February 2012
Canada7089 Posts
November 26 2012 12:38 GMT
#3593
I was a lot more before his three cycle tunnel of me and anyone who seems to interact with me in a positive way. At this point not very. Though I have a hard time seeing what he gains by tunneling me of all people, there are better players present in this game at least some of whom must be town.
I'm stuck because I don't see good motivation for scum or town to do what he is doing but he is a good player. I dunno.

How about you?
TL Mafia. Love it. Play it. http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/index.php?show_part=31 I find Kennigit really attractive. If anyone has a picture of him please feel free to PM it to me.
Promethelax
Profile Joined February 2012
Canada7089 Posts
November 26 2012 12:53 GMT
#3597
because, though I had a town read on him at the time, the ability used on him by scum was a fram bus. Now I thought that was to try to frame him to come up red but it could be to frame him to come up green. Essentially one of the two guys targeted by that frame bus was scum and one was town.
TL Mafia. Love it. Play it. http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/index.php?show_part=31 I find Kennigit really attractive. If anyone has a picture of him please feel free to PM it to me.
Promethelax
Profile Joined February 2012
Canada7089 Posts
November 26 2012 12:54 GMT
#3598
okay so 10, 12, 14
TL Mafia. Love it. Play it. http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/index.php?show_part=31 I find Kennigit really attractive. If anyone has a picture of him please feel free to PM it to me.
Promethelax
Profile Joined February 2012
Canada7089 Posts
November 26 2012 13:00 GMT
#3602
and Acro, scum will have to claim RB because I am not the only player with a RB ability so if they don't laim it and someone else rb'd them that person will know that they are claiming scum.
TL Mafia. Love it. Play it. http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/index.php?show_part=31 I find Kennigit really attractive. If anyone has a picture of him please feel free to PM it to me.
Promethelax
Profile Joined February 2012
Canada7089 Posts
November 26 2012 13:09 GMT
#3608
oh, no, you misunderstand. I get it now.

What I meant is that assuming I target a player whom mafia is targeting and who is town my ability is great but if, for instance I target scum player whom town is targeting with a bunch of abilities (like say I have super major town read on you and I protect you but everyone else in town thinks you are scum and is shooting/DTing/whatever'ing you but you are scum I prot you from all that and RB a bunch of townies).
My ability functions the same no matter who I target. Sorry for the confusion. I didn't even think about the possibility of a dreamflower-esque ability. I've never been in a game with one.
TL Mafia. Love it. Play it. http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/index.php?show_part=31 I find Kennigit really attractive. If anyone has a picture of him please feel free to PM it to me.
Promethelax
Profile Joined February 2012
Canada7089 Posts
November 26 2012 13:10 GMT
#3610
On November 26 2012 22:07 Clarity_nl wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 26 2012 22:00 Promethelax wrote:
and Acro, scum will have to claim RB because I am not the only player with a RB ability so if they don't laim it and someone else rb'd them that person will know that they are claiming scum.


When you were "bluffing" that marv and whoever else (I forget) got roleblocked because they targetted syllo, weren't you working under the assumption that you were the only roleblock ability?


I was. But I didn't use that ability d2 and Risk claimed RB. Ergo I am not the only RBer. I mentioned this already.
TL Mafia. Love it. Play it. http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/index.php?show_part=31 I find Kennigit really attractive. If anyone has a picture of him please feel free to PM it to me.
Promethelax
Profile Joined February 2012
Canada7089 Posts
November 26 2012 13:13 GMT
#3612
Clarity, you forget that this is how we found out what ability Sand used on Syllo? And that it was Sand who I bluffed into telling us that he had targeted Syllo.

Acro: do you understand now with my explanation? There is no alignment revealing aspect of my ability.

Could we please know the order of role resolution? Thank you
TL Mafia. Love it. Play it. http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/index.php?show_part=31 I find Kennigit really attractive. If anyone has a picture of him please feel free to PM it to me.
Promethelax
Profile Joined February 2012
Canada7089 Posts
November 26 2012 13:14 GMT
#3613
On November 26 2012 22:11 syllogism wrote:
Oh so you RBed me today


wat? Nope.
TL Mafia. Love it. Play it. http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/index.php?show_part=31 I find Kennigit really attractive. If anyone has a picture of him please feel free to PM it to me.
Promethelax
Profile Joined February 2012
Canada7089 Posts
November 26 2012 13:16 GMT
#3616
On November 26 2012 22:15 Clarity_nl wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 26 2012 22:13 Promethelax wrote:
Clarity, you forget that this is how we found out what ability Sand used on Syllo? And that it was Sand who I bluffed into telling us that he had targeted Syllo.

Acro: do you understand now with my explanation? There is no alignment revealing aspect of my ability.

Could we please know the order of role resolution? Thank you


I'm just trying to figure out your thinking when it came to that bluff. What if marv just got roleblocked by scum/town and he said "no I didn't target syllo, you're lying". How do you talk your way out of that? You would call marv a liar in that case? Or explain your ability at that point?


the latter. It was a gamble.
TL Mafia. Love it. Play it. http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/index.php?show_part=31 I find Kennigit really attractive. If anyone has a picture of him please feel free to PM it to me.
Promethelax
Profile Joined February 2012
Canada7089 Posts
November 26 2012 13:18 GMT
#3619
there is some limit to when I can use that ability and I have at least one other, lesser, ability which I can use on those cycles when I can't use my primary ability. I have a kickass role that, if I was a better player, could be exploited in more ways than I have figured out.
TL Mafia. Love it. Play it. http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/index.php?show_part=31 I find Kennigit really attractive. If anyone has a picture of him please feel free to PM it to me.
Promethelax
Profile Joined February 2012
Canada7089 Posts
November 26 2012 13:22 GMT
#3623
Marv: based on the research I just did: http://chrono.wikia.com/wiki/Norstein_Bekkler's_Tent_of_Horrors for kita makes some sense.
TL Mafia. Love it. Play it. http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/index.php?show_part=31 I find Kennigit really attractive. If anyone has a picture of him please feel free to PM it to me.
Promethelax
Profile Joined February 2012
Canada7089 Posts
November 26 2012 13:24 GMT
#3625
On November 26 2012 22:22 Acrofales wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 26 2012 22:18 Promethelax wrote:
there is some limit to when I can use that ability and I have at least one other, lesser, ability which I can use on those cycles when I can't use my primary ability. I have a kickass role that, if I was a better player, could be exploited in more ways than I have figured out.

Oh, ok. Sniped.

So it does have downsides: you cannot use it every cycle.


sometimes I can and sometimes I can't. Ummm...hard to explain without revealing the intricacies of the role to mafia. I couldn't last cycle. I will this cycle.
TL Mafia. Love it. Play it. http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/index.php?show_part=31 I find Kennigit really attractive. If anyone has a picture of him please feel free to PM it to me.
Promethelax
Profile Joined February 2012
Canada7089 Posts
November 26 2012 13:31 GMT
#3632
also this character lists a brother from 1000ad called chef... http://chrono.wikia.com/wiki/Master_of_Kitchens I'm all caught up in the wiki now
TL Mafia. Love it. Play it. http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/index.php?show_part=31 I find Kennigit really attractive. If anyone has a picture of him please feel free to PM it to me.
Promethelax
Profile Joined February 2012
Canada7089 Posts
November 26 2012 13:32 GMT
#3633
err...not a brother. A relation.
TL Mafia. Love it. Play it. http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/index.php?show_part=31 I find Kennigit really attractive. If anyone has a picture of him please feel free to PM it to me.
Promethelax
Profile Joined February 2012
Canada7089 Posts
November 26 2012 13:51 GMT
#3635
Marv: why would scum put up their (presumably) three best players as candidates day 1? That is Sand, Toad and Kita.
TL Mafia. Love it. Play it. http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/index.php?show_part=31 I find Kennigit really attractive. If anyone has a picture of him please feel free to PM it to me.
Promethelax
Profile Joined February 2012
Canada7089 Posts
November 26 2012 14:03 GMT
#3643
On November 26 2012 23:02 marvellosity wrote:
I can see it happening, but on the balance of probability I would presume not. And that's what I usually work with.


so kita=/=scum, Kita=3p in your mind?
TL Mafia. Love it. Play it. http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/index.php?show_part=31 I find Kennigit really attractive. If anyone has a picture of him please feel free to PM it to me.
Promethelax
Profile Joined February 2012
Canada7089 Posts
November 26 2012 14:13 GMT
#3645
On November 26 2012 23:09 marvellosity wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 26 2012 23:03 Promethelax wrote:
On November 26 2012 23:02 marvellosity wrote:
I can see it happening, but on the balance of probability I would presume not. And that's what I usually work with.


so kita=/=scum, Kita=3p in your mind?


yeah, 3rd party is my best guess. And unlike some other people I don't throw it around lightly (too many 3rd party reads in this game). My last two 3rd party reads (rock band, liquid city) have been bang on.



you were scum in LC but you were magical town jailer of doom in Rockband so I'll accept that.

Kita: name claim please?
TL Mafia. Love it. Play it. http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/index.php?show_part=31 I find Kennigit really attractive. If anyone has a picture of him please feel free to PM it to me.
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