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JacobStrangelove
Profile Joined August 2012
Australia1572 Posts
December 02 2012 01:34 GMT
#1440
And they would agree easier knowing his alignment ^^
JacobStrangelove
Profile Joined August 2012
Australia1572 Posts
December 02 2012 01:42 GMT
#1446
There is no way oats can be scum (funny you mention it right after I call you out for not mentioning it) the logic doesn't allow it.

JacobStrangelove
Profile Joined August 2012
Australia1572 Posts
December 02 2012 01:45 GMT
#1448
Either way we shouldn't lynch CC today, their is too much variable and if yamato is town he might get confused. I would still say no lynch but with no cop that just means I die. (or oats) (also funny how kick says cop should claim now when there is likely no cop)

I would lynch kick his counter argument all game has been meta is a bad read. No it isn't if you post good cases on people with solid thought one game as town you don't just stop posting good cases next game.
JacobStrangelove
Profile Joined August 2012
Australia1572 Posts
December 02 2012 01:48 GMT
#1449
But the logic doesn't allow him to be scummy anymore so why bother?

Here is a test 1+1= ? If I told you the answer was 2 would you believe me?

It's black and white logic in this scenario. I think kick and helos are praying on yamatos mind to get the only lynch they can get.

JacobStrangelove
Profile Joined August 2012
Australia1572 Posts
December 02 2012 01:50 GMT
#1452
From kicks filter on his initial defence

"And so what if I have only pushed my Oats and Yamato scum reads, they are who I found most scummy. Oats not anymore but still Yamato. "

and just then
"I would not want to chance lynching him now without something extremely solid saying he is scum" <-- referring to oats

Is this a contradiction?
JacobStrangelove
Profile Joined August 2012
Australia1572 Posts
December 02 2012 01:52 GMT
#1455
Hey I was the one who said it ended up being good play. Even after the lynch went green it was good play. Because it confirmed oats and we didn't lose two confirmed town (sdm and oats) I went with aqua because the bigger risk was on oats who felt town and claimed doc and has been playing bad enough to not leave a breadcrumb.

JacobStrangelove
Profile Joined August 2012
Australia1572 Posts
December 02 2012 01:54 GMT
#1456
On December 02 2012 10:52 Kickstart wrote:
Are you daft, they say the exact same thing. Can you please make serious posts with so much riding on this day period.




Can you please stop insulting me for no reason? What I meant was you said oats wasn't a scum read then you said he was a possibility. (not 100% town) unless....
JacobStrangelove
Profile Joined August 2012
Australia1572 Posts
December 02 2012 01:58 GMT
#1459
Ok the only possible teams are yamato helos and kick helos. All you guys are against CC. Which means mafia picked up on one town being confused and are going hard core with it. There is only one options for mafia to survive and that is a mislynch. Oats is impossible if you think though the logic. I have nobody on me and the only possible mislynch is CC.

But in both these teams helos is mafia. I think yamato is the confused town. So a helos vote would be safest.
JacobStrangelove
Profile Joined August 2012
Australia1572 Posts
December 02 2012 01:59 GMT
#1460
On December 02 2012 10:55 Kickstart wrote:
I really don't need to say anything else. You thought that that was a good play AND that Oats is/was 100% confirmed.... really?


he WAS more valuable alive and seemed MORE town and he IS 100% confirmed now.
JacobStrangelove
Profile Joined August 2012
Australia1572 Posts
December 02 2012 02:05 GMT
#1466
Seems we do. Amazing defense the crowd bows trumpets blow.

Look I am good at this sort of thing. First newbie game (playing as town) it got down to the last lynch I realized everything and saved the game. My second game (playing as mafia) I was confused up until the last lynch of course and thought everything was wrong.

Either way I am lynching helos town needs to lynch the same person or we lose. I will force the lynch on helos if I must. I did this in my first town game forcing the lynch on sonic and I will do it again if I must.


##unvote
##Vote: HeloKnight
JacobStrangelove
Profile Joined August 2012
Australia1572 Posts
December 02 2012 02:07 GMT
#1470
On December 02 2012 11:02 Oatsmaster wrote:
I want to shout at yamato so much.
Kickstart, why would CC try to gain support for the Aqua lynch then?
You said that scum would want to lynch a probable blue,
Also If we no lynch today, I die so thats not so good.
##Unvote
##Vote: HeloKnight


I want to shout at both of you so much but that won't help the game move forward.
JacobStrangelove
Profile Joined August 2012
Australia1572 Posts
December 02 2012 02:09 GMT
#1473
On December 02 2012 11:05 Mr. Cheesecake wrote:
I'm just confused who my scumbuddy is supposed to be. Kick/yamato/ and Helo are against me. None of them are candidates. Oats is doctor, and we've been attacking each other forever. Jacob I thought was cop, lol.

One of Yamato or Kickstart is confused as hell right now. I can't help but think it's Yamato, he's had it out for me ever since I nearly lynched him.



This is something I fall into a lot was playing along minding my own business in my first game suddenly this guy called killing makes one case on me and I explode. Tunnel him for like 3 days a week at least actual time. Thankfully I didn't lynch him but...
JacobStrangelove
Profile Joined August 2012
Australia1572 Posts
December 02 2012 02:10 GMT
#1475
On December 02 2012 11:09 Kickstart wrote:
I can't be 100% certain why he would do that. I can only come up with theories. What seems most likely to me at the moment is that he is going for town cred and trying to push a lynch with his new "cred". He switches off of you, lynching Aqua. Right there he has secured your vote and gotten rid of a vote that may not go his way, now all he needs is one more vote, and with a scum partner he has all the votes he needs.
This is even more evident to me because after the Aqua lynch he immediately goes into how much of a good play it was and how town he is - and then tries to push a course of action for day 3. So right now I think Cheese is scum and tried to gain some quick town cred and push his agenda with it.



Actually I think I pushed the agenda day 3. Just sayin'
JacobStrangelove
Profile Joined August 2012
Australia1572 Posts
December 02 2012 02:15 GMT
#1479
On December 02 2012 11:12 Mr. Cheesecake wrote:
He wanted a no-lynch when we thought there was a cop.


This is true. I pushed the agenda of who was town with the logic regarding oats I would like someone to actually try and refute that logic anyone?

I pushed who I thought were scum based on this.

JacobStrangelove
Profile Joined August 2012
Australia1572 Posts
December 02 2012 02:18 GMT
#1481
On December 02 2012 11:16 Kickstart wrote:
This is so shit. I don't feel comfortable with anyone and if I get this wrong we lose the game.


This was exactly my scum strategy last game. Being indecisive. if you are actually indecisive vote helos. You know why? Because if you are scum or town he is still scum. I mentioned this before.
JacobStrangelove
Profile Joined August 2012
Australia1572 Posts
December 02 2012 02:21 GMT
#1483
I have to be, if I wasn't I could be swayed easy.
JacobStrangelove
Profile Joined August 2012
Australia1572 Posts
December 02 2012 02:31 GMT
#1487
^ This, read this twice at least.
JacobStrangelove
Profile Joined August 2012
Australia1572 Posts
December 02 2012 03:00 GMT
#1501
If you still have doubts there is a thought experiment to get rid of bias. If you are town hear me out. Re-read CC's filter pretending he is town. Then after that think about if he is town or scum.

Look at the way he is acting, it is so town like.

But to convince you oats is doc.

Nobody died night one. We have to have a doc or a jk or else someone would have died.

We still have no claim on a day where you have to claim.

We can't have a jk instead of a doc anyway because sonic died night 2 where doc can't save the same person.

Oats has played bad enough to not have made a breadcrumb.

if oats was scum fake claiming why did nobody die night one? One possibility they wanted to fake claim doc. but if they did a tactic that advanced they would have make a breadcrumb.

This is why oats is doc 100% if you are not happy with this what part is wrong?
JacobStrangelove
Profile Joined August 2012
Australia1572 Posts
December 02 2012 03:01 GMT
#1502
There are no other possibility's. try think of one.
JacobStrangelove
Profile Joined August 2012
Australia1572 Posts
December 02 2012 03:04 GMT
#1506
On December 02 2012 12:03 yamato77 wrote:
JK misplayed Night 2 or got roleblocked by mafia.


No claim. Checkmate.
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