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iamperfection
Profile Blog Joined February 2011
United States9642 Posts
November 16 2012 14:07 GMT
#2074
On November 16 2012 19:18 Djodref wrote:
But would yOu agree thatwe have to lynch him sooner or later?
Would he be a good lynch for d3 or d4 ?

no
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iamperfection
Profile Blog Joined February 2011
United States9642 Posts
November 16 2012 14:09 GMT
#2076
On November 16 2012 22:59 debears wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 16 2012 18:09 Djodref wrote:
I don't think it is as unlikely as it seems. I have good arguments to support this but I'm phone posting from my car so I'm not in the best position to explain them in details but here are a few hints.
First things first, BH play is not town-like. Could we at least agree on this one ?
Secondly, when you look at C9++, from which the setup of our game is derived from, the roles of the mafia team are given after that the roles for the town are decided. So the mafia team have more info than us about the roles. My point is that for a goon, goon, GF scumteam, it is not so risky for a troll goon to claim JK, as it is less likely to have a real JK.
Thirdly, voting against Hapa could have been a soft bus vote rather than a real bus vote because a Hapa lynch was unlikely to happen. Nobody could have foresaw it, especially with the Kickstart switch coming from nowhere.


Does the type of roles on one side affect the roles on the other side in this setup type? Or are they independent of each other?

They do wish marv was still here hes good at that stuff ill see what i can dig up.
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iamperfection
Profile Blog Joined February 2011
United States9642 Posts
November 16 2012 14:11 GMT
#2077
http://wiki.mafiascum.net/index.php?title=C9++

for reference by the way if anyone wants to figure stuff out with me. I think keri changes some things around though.
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iamperfection
Profile Blog Joined February 2011
United States9642 Posts
November 16 2012 14:21 GMT
#2083
im not gonna try to setup speculate i cant do it.

Bh i delegate this job to you if you so desire.
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iamperfection
Profile Blog Joined February 2011
United States9642 Posts
November 16 2012 14:37 GMT
#2089
On November 16 2012 23:30 Clarity_nl wrote:
Like I said. Scum could have jumped on hapa, not expecting anyone to follow.
For the same reason I said the last ones to jump on are most likely town.

You don't have to use all caps to get your point across.

it doesn't make any sense and if scum where smart they would have realized that several players had suspicions of hapa. Just because he didn't have votes on him doesn't mean people were suspicions. myself,Marv,dabars,Kickstart,Bh, dp?? and if i dont remember anyone else sorry but thats good sizable chunk of people as well as people that can make shit happen.
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iamperfection
Profile Blog Joined February 2011
United States9642 Posts
November 16 2012 14:43 GMT
#2093
On November 16 2012 23:39 Clarity_nl wrote:
I think saying "everyone who was on hapa is confirmed town" is bad. You guys can't possibly disagree with that...?

im not using the word confirmed im just saying its stupid to look at them over other players at this point.
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iamperfection
Profile Blog Joined February 2011
United States9642 Posts
November 16 2012 14:46 GMT
#2095
There is rarely anything ever confirmed in mafia games. Masons being the one exception really. Marv when he was jk in rockband. There are always possibilities. you have to look at things as what is most likely and who is acting in a scum way. Do their actions make sense from a scum perspective or they make more sense from a town perspective.
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iamperfection
Profile Blog Joined February 2011
United States9642 Posts
November 16 2012 14:48 GMT
#2097
says it right in the model op

"Mafia is an educated guessing game of epic proportions"
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iamperfection
Profile Blog Joined February 2011
United States9642 Posts
November 16 2012 14:50 GMT
#2099
i wouldn't say hes being unreasonable more misguided i would say.
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iamperfection
Profile Blog Joined February 2011
United States9642 Posts
November 16 2012 15:04 GMT
#2103
http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/viewmessage.php?topic_id=355874

sometime you catch the mafia with their pants down.

Also from my coaching in that game bh had stated that mafia typically do not bus a godfather they may have been in the end but they would likely not lead a charge. This wagon was even more sudden than that one so i think it leads to more likely conclusion that the members of it are more likely to be town.
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iamperfection
Profile Blog Joined February 2011
United States9642 Posts
November 16 2012 15:08 GMT
#2108
On November 17 2012 00:08 Clarity_nl wrote:
Yes, likely. But the fact that debears repeats it a whole lot is weird to me.
I'm not disagreeing with you, but I don't want people to get it into their heads that they can ignore everyone who was on hapa and take their word as gospel.

of course not
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iamperfection
Profile Blog Joined February 2011
United States9642 Posts
November 16 2012 15:11 GMT
#2110
by the way the acme game is almost about the the train that is this game about to run them over in terms of activity
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iamperfection
Profile Blog Joined February 2011
United States9642 Posts
November 16 2012 15:11 GMT
#2111
On November 17 2012 00:11 iamperfection wrote:
by the way the acme game is almost about the the train that is this game about to run them over in terms of activity

ebwop
by the way the acme game is almost about hear the train that is this game about to run them over in terms of activity
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iamperfection
Profile Blog Joined February 2011
United States9642 Posts
November 16 2012 15:18 GMT
#2116
On November 17 2012 00:14 Clarity_nl wrote:
Your logic is all over the fucking place debears, and I don't like it at all.

does that make him scum or does it simply displease you.

If you want to say something to him in regards to him being scum or not then say it otherwise stop wasting time.
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iamperfection
Profile Blog Joined February 2011
United States9642 Posts
November 16 2012 15:31 GMT
#2120
On November 15 2012 10:55 thrawn2112 wrote:
how does this

Show nested quote +
On November 15 2012 10:54 debears wrote:
Wait DP and Z-Bo think hapa is scum?

lead to this

Show nested quote +
On November 15 2012 10:54 debears wrote:##Unvote
##Vote Hopeless

Thrawn was around the lynch deadline.
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iamperfection
Profile Blog Joined February 2011
United States9642 Posts
November 16 2012 15:37 GMT
#2123
On November 17 2012 00:26 Hopeless1der wrote:
I think we're at 9v1 with no SK, and setup speculation says there's at least 1 more blue besides myself, Z-bo and BH (assuming we're all telling the truth). Yes, I count miller as a blue.

Unless a townie claims the block on BH, it means scum have Kamek remaining and C9++ requires 0, 1, or 2 "T's" to have Goon, Roleblocker, Godfather (and possible SK). That means 5 'rolls' went towards blue's. I don't know how that ends up working out since Vig's are all one-shot and doctors are JK's instead, but I think there is at least 1 unclaimed blue.

I don't want to mass claim because its not likely to get us much more to work with. I'm pissed that I can't ask thrawn why he was being un-thrawny. He specifically referenced the fact that Hapa and Marv should have been on his case and now they're all gone. I need djo to get off of BH for a moment and find scum elsewhere. He seems to be barking at clarity for the moment, so I'll see how that goes.

Sk is still possible isn't it?

Double stack or holding shots.
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iamperfection
Profile Blog Joined February 2011
United States9642 Posts
November 16 2012 15:41 GMT
#2125
On November 17 2012 00:40 Clarity_nl wrote:
If there is an SK and it's not hopeless then it would be weird for him to withhold a shot, seeing as we lynched scum D1. Double stack is possible, but would an SK shoot cross?

i have never played sk so i dont really know how they think. I was killed by one once didnt really know what in that instance either.
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iamperfection
Profile Blog Joined February 2011
United States9642 Posts
November 16 2012 15:42 GMT
#2126
On November 17 2012 00:41 iamperfection wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 17 2012 00:40 Clarity_nl wrote:
If there is an SK and it's not hopeless then it would be weird for him to withhold a shot, seeing as we lynched scum D1. Double stack is possible, but would an SK shoot cross?

i have never played sk so i dont really know how they think. I was killed by one once didnt really know what in that instance either.

ebwop didn't know why in that instance
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iamperfection
Profile Blog Joined February 2011
United States9642 Posts
November 16 2012 15:44 GMT
#2128
On November 17 2012 00:42 Clarity_nl wrote:
I think that if you're playing to your win condition and town lynches scum D1 you'll try to shoot a townie. Could be wrong.
I actually didn't consider an SK trying to shoot marv, that's an interesting thought.

well yeah that would be the general idea i would think. There not pro town or pro scum
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iamperfection
Profile Blog Joined February 2011
United States9642 Posts
November 16 2012 15:51 GMT
#2135
On November 17 2012 00:47 Clarity_nl wrote:
Ehhhh, crazy thought, how certain are we that there are 3 scum? I don't see it in the OP.

http://wiki.mafiascum.net/index.php?title=C9++

There cant be more than 3 scum. Also if we take the blues word there isn't two scum.
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