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strongandbig
Profile Blog Joined October 2010
United States4858 Posts
November 09 2012 16:10 GMT
#865
that was a lot of unnecessary work then
"It's the torso" "only more so!"
strongandbig
Profile Blog Joined October 2010
United States4858 Posts
November 09 2012 16:21 GMT
#868
sry
rhyming is hard
"It's the torso" "only more so!"
strongandbig
Profile Blog Joined October 2010
United States4858 Posts
November 09 2012 17:16 GMT
#871
huh.
"It's the torso" "only more so!"
strongandbig
Profile Blog Joined October 2010
United States4858 Posts
November 09 2012 17:23 GMT
#873
Well some of you already knew about this, but here's what actually happened night 1

strongandbig
11-02-2012
06:48 PM ET (US)
fuuuuu
TL is down for me right now T_T


strongandbig
11-02-2012
07:05 PM ET (US)

okay i'm down with killing hopeless and keirathi using our factional KP.

edit I hope mementoss comes back soon I am not sure how much longer I will be able to stay awake ...

at least I have tomorrow off work lol



strongandbig
11-02-2012
08:14 PM ET (US)

TL Still down

"TeamLiquid.net is down due to hosting backup generators failing due to hurricane Sandy, sorry everyone, ETA back up not sure " -from TL twitter

so iGrok hopefully we can get an extended night phase or something so people can give me more points.

if not that's okay too hopefully mementoss will come back soon so we can buy a KP

actually wait having a not-extended night phase might be better, then i have a good excuse not to do anything with the points this night and just rack them up


strongandbig
11-02-2012
08:51 PM ET (US)
hey igrok i have enough points now to buy a vigshot even though for whatever reason mementoss didnt give me his points.

i buy a vigshot and will use it to shoot chezinu

i will save the rest of the points that i have




iGrok
11-02-2012
10:03 PM ET (US)
I didn't get any pms from you all about night actions, so I will assume there are no night actions.

Next time, remember to PM them.



Snb
11-02-2012
11:32 PM ET (US)
Man igrok
The fucking site was down

Are you serious?


Scum QT link:
http://www.quicktopic.com/48/H/FqQpNccByRdt/
"It's the torso" "only more so!"
strongandbig
Profile Blog Joined October 2010
United States4858 Posts
November 09 2012 17:24 GMT
#874
On November 10 2012 02:20 Crossfire99 wrote:
I don't understand what just happened, but I do know that I would just like to apologize for getting modkilled and ruining the game like that. I didn't realize that relaying what iGrok told me counted as posting pm's and didn't even think that what I did was wrong because I thought it was like asking a question in the thread. I see now that I shouldn't have done it and just wanted to say how truly sorry I am. I hope you all can forgive me. I will try not to be so asinine in the future.


What happened was, I sent the points to hopeless to shoot Keirathi with. He had previously indicated that he would do this, and was being pressed pretty hard by BH to do so. Keirathi also thought he would do this.

What's more, he had never indicated any suspicion of me until he didn't get the points I sent him. If he had gotten the points, he might have shot Keirathi, and if he had done that I would have won.
"It's the torso" "only more so!"
strongandbig
Profile Blog Joined October 2010
United States4858 Posts
November 09 2012 17:26 GMT
#875
Also here's an interesting fact - I could spend points for powers, but they cost three times as much for me as for anyone else. So when I persuade the town to trust me and give me their points and make me their leader, I get a lot less use out of it than BH or H1 do.
"It's the torso" "only more so!"
strongandbig
Profile Blog Joined October 2010
United States4858 Posts
November 09 2012 17:28 GMT
#877
On November 10 2012 02:23 strongandbig wrote:
Well some of you already knew about this, but here's what actually happened night 1

Show nested quote +
strongandbig
11-02-2012
06:48 PM ET (US)
fuuuuu
TL is down for me right now T_T


Show nested quote +
strongandbig
11-02-2012
07:05 PM ET (US)

okay i'm down with killing hopeless and keirathi using our factional KP.

edit I hope mementoss comes back soon I am not sure how much longer I will be able to stay awake ...

at least I have tomorrow off work lol



Show nested quote +
strongandbig
11-02-2012
08:14 PM ET (US)

TL Still down

"TeamLiquid.net is down due to hosting backup generators failing due to hurricane Sandy, sorry everyone, ETA back up not sure " -from TL twitter

so iGrok hopefully we can get an extended night phase or something so people can give me more points.

if not that's okay too hopefully mementoss will come back soon so we can buy a KP

actually wait having a not-extended night phase might be better, then i have a good excuse not to do anything with the points this night and just rack them up


Show nested quote +
strongandbig
11-02-2012
08:51 PM ET (US)
hey igrok i have enough points now to buy a vigshot even though for whatever reason mementoss didnt give me his points.

i buy a vigshot and will use it to shoot chezinu

i will save the rest of the points that i have




Show nested quote +
iGrok
11-02-2012
10:03 PM ET (US)
I didn't get any pms from you all about night actions, so I will assume there are no night actions.

Next time, remember to PM them.



Show nested quote +
Snb
11-02-2012
11:32 PM ET (US)
Man igrok
The fucking site was down

Are you serious?


Scum QT link:
http://www.quicktopic.com/48/H/FqQpNccByRdt/


After this I had like three people tell me I should just leave the game instanter :/
"It's the torso" "only more so!"
strongandbig
Profile Blog Joined October 2010
United States4858 Posts
November 09 2012 17:29 GMT
#879
On November 10 2012 02:28 Keirathi wrote:
So many things to complain about, but I guess I'll hold my tongue.

GG S&B. You deserved to win.


lol. We should do a poll on if townies want me to win, and then I can win :/

anyway iGrok can we get the obs qt link?
"It's the torso" "only more so!"
strongandbig
Profile Blog Joined October 2010
United States4858 Posts
November 09 2012 17:35 GMT
#881
On November 10 2012 02:33 syllogism wrote:
Blues should have realized earlier that there is no way the setup has 4 confirmed town super blues when there is even an anonymous point trading mechanic

Also s&b's claimed actions here were rather hilarious

http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/viewpost.php?post_id=16822226

None of his many, many actions produced any results and he even claimed having visited both dead players, presumably because he was afraid of being tracked to them


They should have, but they didn't.

and yeah that claim post was a little bit ridiculous
I wasn't afraid of being tracked, I was just having a hard time coming up with a large enough sheer bulk of actions that I could claim without results after I found out that powers cost 1/3 as much for H1 and BH as they did for me
"It's the torso" "only more so!"
strongandbig
Profile Blog Joined October 2010
United States4858 Posts
November 09 2012 17:43 GMT
#886
oh yeah the game would probably also have been easier to win for me if crossfire hadn't been modkilled, or at least I think it would've because there would've been additional people to put blame on and it wouldn't have just been 1v1 me vs an actual VT.
"It's the torso" "only more so!"
strongandbig
Profile Blog Joined October 2010
United States4858 Posts
November 09 2012 17:44 GMT
#887
yeah lol they can both buy vet+mirror each night, just using the points they get themselves.
"It's the torso" "only more so!"
strongandbig
Profile Blog Joined October 2010
United States4858 Posts
November 09 2012 17:46 GMT
#888
yeah you know what fuck it I'm going to declare myself the winner of this game. no night actions N1 + modkill on the most suspicious townie + not giving points to the guy who probably would've shot the last VT = enough.

Self-declared Scum Victory!
"It's the torso" "only more so!"
strongandbig
Profile Blog Joined October 2010
United States4858 Posts
November 09 2012 17:59 GMT
#902
Votesteal costs 3000 for me (remember the completely imbalanced setup? For example, ##earn double points gains H1 and BH a free extra vet or mirror power, it earns me 1/6 of a vet or mirror power). I was planning on vote stealing and I would have had enough if we'd gotten 1000 on the last day, but the troll $100 game fucked me up.

If I had the votesteal I would have won straight up, no need for these draw shenanigans.

@BH yeah I wasn't sure about asking that but I was flipping out in the scum QT when I found out about your ridiculous guaranteed day-DT check and the possibility that H1 could also use it.
Also I told you I had vet, I bought it day 2 and it stays until it gets used up.

@hopeless - wtf are you talking about, "town should have won" - first, the sheer size of the mod actions in your favor was ludicrous and I still managed to get to lylo, and second I still could have won straight up if I could've persuaded BH to vote keirathi (or keirathi to vote BH, but keirathi already knew I was scum from talking to someone outside the game so that wouldn't have worked).
"It's the torso" "only more so!"
strongandbig
Profile Blog Joined October 2010
United States4858 Posts
November 09 2012 18:01 GMT
#904
I already had purchased the extra KP on the night before, but I decided at the last minute not to use it

an extra KP cost me 3750 points

like, this game was incredibly hard for scum to win IMO even without losing three KP night one and having the most suspicious townie get modkilled day2.
"It's the torso" "only more so!"
strongandbig
Profile Blog Joined October 2010
United States4858 Posts
November 09 2012 18:03 GMT
#906
On November 10 2012 03:01 gonzaw wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 10 2012 02:47 Blazinghand wrote:
You could just RB+Shoot us or double-shoot us if we pulled a stunt like that right


RB doesn't affect the vet ability if I remember correctly.
Also if you have mirror it wouldn't have any effect right? The RB is done back at scum who are RBed and can't shoot you.

Again, yes we could double-shoot you but:
1-We wouldn't know if you had enough points to get vet status..since remember we needed 1500 points to do so and had no idea it costed 500 instead for you guys
2-If you get mirror then we suicide into you basically. We can double-stack 1 of you guys, but in that case one of us dies as well and there's still another confirmed super invincible townie left, and since we have 1 less scum we can never use 2 KP again basically (and if nobody gives us points we could never afford the 3750 points for a new KP either)


Also you guys could get a RB as well (you could get like 3-4 RB if you wanted) and RB who you think is scum who will give out the scum kills.

Wait.....#involve only costs 500?
Why didn't both of you use involve on D2 for instance? You either confirm scum or get 2000 instead which you can use to use #involve again on D3 like 4 times (both of you each) to basically out the whole scumteam. Or was it only one-shot?


Also double points was only 250? Like....here:
On N1 both of you:
-Use 500 to buy vet
-Use 500 to buy 2 double points
-As soon as D2 starts both of you use 2 double points

Then you'd get four times as many points! Both of you would get 4000 points in the D2 game and with 8000 points you can do whatever the fuck you want!


Is it me or did BH and H1 like severely underperformed with their powers? At least considering all the possibilities they could have gotten.


If I hadn't claimed out of the gate and started getting people to give me points, we would have been uberfucked instead of just superfucked like we actually were.

BIG PLAYS
"It's the torso" "only more so!"
strongandbig
Profile Blog Joined October 2010
United States4858 Posts
November 09 2012 18:06 GMT
#910
On November 10 2012 03:02 Hopeless1der wrote:
mod actions aside, do you really think you could convince BH to switch? I don't, and as a result I think town would have successfully lynched you to win the game.


I don't think you can put mod actions aside, since they changed the game so much. I also think that maybe I could have - keirathi didn't play a super townie game either, if I could have gotten BH to actually look at filters I'm pretty confident mine looked decent.

I also think that part of the reason everyone was all of a sudden so sure I was scum (despite me being basically "confirmed town" up until then) was that the point-give didn't actually go through.

Anyway, we'll never know now, will we?
"It's the torso" "only more so!"
strongandbig
Profile Blog Joined October 2010
United States4858 Posts
November 09 2012 18:08 GMT
#917
On November 10 2012 03:07 Crossfire99 wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 10 2012 03:06 strongandbig wrote:
On November 10 2012 03:02 Hopeless1der wrote:
mod actions aside, do you really think you could convince BH to switch? I don't, and as a result I think town would have successfully lynched you to win the game.


I don't think you can put mod actions aside, since they changed the game so much. I also think that maybe I could have - keirathi didn't play a super townie game either, if I could have gotten BH to actually look at filters I'm pretty confident mine looked decent.

I also think that part of the reason everyone was all of a sudden so sure I was scum (despite me being basically "confirmed town" up until then) was that the point-give didn't actually go through.

Anyway, we'll never know now, will we?

Your filter didn't look townie in the least bit. Lol.


only because you read it knowing I was scum. confirmation bias.

otherwise presumably someone would have read it and called me scum? Maybe?
"It's the torso" "only more so!"
strongandbig
Profile Blog Joined October 2010
United States4858 Posts
November 09 2012 18:12 GMT
#923
well yeah
I meant up until the last day, at that point we weren't even talking about filters anymore

I admit you got me with the mason qt thing but at that point I was so flipped out about the night actions and mod actions that I'd stopped really even trying to look townie and was just figuring out how to claim things that couldn't be disproven

I mean when I first was mason'd I didn't even know that you guys could buy powers for 1/3 of the cost
"It's the torso" "only more so!"
strongandbig
Profile Blog Joined October 2010
United States4858 Posts
November 09 2012 18:18 GMT
#929
Well okay whatever. This game was ridiculous, maybe I should have just quit after no night actions N1.

I made it to a point where even despite no night actions N1, I could have won the game if a number of different things hadn't happened. I'm confident that I could have pushed back sufficiently against crossfire's case, and if he hadn't been modkilled I wouldn't have flipped out and slipped in my mason QT with BH. Even though I did that, if we'd gotten 1000 points on day 3 instead of 100 I could have vote-stolen today and won. And how the actual final day plays out is only speculation.

So yeah, despite being massively behind, I managed to get into a position where a win was not only possible but the most probable outcome.

I'm still declaring this a win so screw all y'all
"It's the torso" "only more so!"
strongandbig
Profile Blog Joined October 2010
United States4858 Posts
November 09 2012 18:27 GMT
#936
On November 10 2012 03:19 Blazinghand wrote:
How were you gonna win? Keirathi and I were voting for you? Just explain to me how you were going to win.


oh, I'm not arguing that I was in a bad spot as it played out.

What I mean is that if the RNG had given a game where we got 1000 points, I would have won.
If crossfire hadn't been modkilled, I wouldn't have freaked out and slipped in mason, there would've been an extra suspicious townie, and we'll never know what would've happened but I think I would have won that.

I'm not saying "oh I would certainly have won if the game continued", or even "oh I would probably won if the game had continued" - I was in a bad spot. I'm saying "there was a point in the game where, given the more probable outcomes of mod actions (we all get 1000 points, or crossfire doesn't get modkilled), I would more likely than not have won the game." That's all.
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