Whose Line Is It Anyway? Mafia! - Page 4

On November 04 2012 14:20 Blazinghand wrote:


I've re-evaluated, and my re-evaluation is that Hopeless is still totally town. I suppose we can agree to disagree, but any vote for Hopeless1 is a vote to lynch a townie, and a vote I cannot abide.

On November 04 2012 14:39 Blazinghand wrote:
yeah you gotta explore all corners. can't just like get blinded by a townread, dude

On November 04 2012 11:28 Keirathi wrote:

I...uh...okay?

Do I need to explain why that's scummy as hell?

Nothing MMToss has done today makes me think that he is town, but you just moved way up my possible scum list.

On November 04 2012 18:12 Keirathi wrote:

Wat?

On November 04 2012 10:06 Chezinu wrote:

Just maybe I didn't finish painting.

On November 04 2012 10:59 Hopeless1der wrote:

Yes. However, I wouldn't act on them tomorrow unless you did nothing to help town. Being apathetic today doesn't count because we're all looking a little limp, if you know what I'm saying.

On November 04 2012 10:07 Adam4167 wrote:
No worries. My painting is finished, it looks very similar to yours, would you like to see it?

On November 04 2012 10:16 Keirathi wrote:

Maybe you could respond to S&B's post?

On November 04 2012 06:07 Blazinghand wrote:
but i'm not a rocket scientist

On November 04 2012 04:22 strongandbig wrote:


If you're town, right about now is when you should be trying to show it off.

(no not like that you sick fuck)

Post cases or analysis. Do you still think Keirathi is scum? Persuade me.

What is your interpretation of how Gonzaw was voting for you last night?

On November 05 2012 00:34 strongandbig wrote:
Wow. Literally a whole page of bull shit, if you know what I mean.

+ Show Spoiler [hint] +

On November 05 2012 03:18 Blazinghand wrote:
I don't get how there was every any doubt that Mementoss = sexy and Hopeless = town

On November 05 2012 01:55 strongandbig wrote:


I'm not sure if this is intended as a compliment, but I appreciate the sentiment I guess? Anyway, it is both strong and big (+ Show Spoiler +). Very strong, and very big indeed.

On November 05 2012 01:46 strongandbig wrote:
So it appears that Mementoss has decided to claim scum, and it looks like we're falling into the trap of letting a pretty-much-decided lynch keep us away from actually doing any scumhunting. That's not a good thing for town - just look at Liquid City, where town got handed two scum lynches by good blue play, but let its momentum die out and still lost the game. So let's try and get this thread moving a bit.

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First a few questions:
- Stutters: I get that plowing through day1 is hard because of the rhyme game, but you've had some time so I would really like something from you other than the mementoss-Adam connection stuff and complaining about Chezinu. Believe me, we all feel the same way about Chezinu, but since he won't actually provide his reasoning for stuff like his claim plan or his D1 ninja vote on Mementoss I don't really know what to do about him. Chezinu actually plays like this all the time, regardless of alignment. So do you have any other potential scum reads? Or do you want to build up a case on Adam based on his posting or his actions, rather than the connection theory with Mementoss?

- Hopeless: You've been rocking the innuendo game, but I don't see much coming out of you yet today (not that anyone has seen much coming out of you, if you know what I mean) besides the innuendos and your Keirathi thing. Yesterday you attacked crossfire for voting then afk'ing (or at least, I assume that's what you meant by + Show Spoiler +). How do you feel about crossfire right now based on his posting? Additionally, do you think he could be Mementoss's buddy if Mementoss flips scum?

- Chezinu: If you don't want to explain why you ninja voted Mementoss yesterday, then how about this - who do you think could be his scum partner? I'd appreciate it if you provided some reasoning other than your colored list.

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Now, some of my own thoughts:

- I was reading through Crossfire's filter to think about asking him a question, but I found some stuff in there that I very much don't like.

For one thing, there's the overall fluffiness or what people have been calling his "poetry" - I think it was perfectly possible to play within the minigame restriction while still making total sense and expressing ideas in a clear and concise manner.


I don't like this comment. Why should you be worried about staying in your "meta" - for one thing, you have like 200 posts, so how much meta can there be? For another thing I would expect anyone doing a meta read to take into account the unique circumstances of this game. It's weird that you call attention to and excuse a difference from an imagined "meta".

Then from earlier in his filter there's

- more being all like "guys i'ma post so much!" - but his filter is really not very long. (You know what else of his isn't very long?) Like, there was no need to draw everyone's attention to the fact that he was posting a lot unless he's worried that people would accuse him of not posting enough.

then later on there's this:

This is a really weird thing to do. In the exact same breath, tell someone their plan is bad, and also go along with it.
That said, this may well have been an optimal scum response to Chezinu's plan - we all agreed that scum would have to claim VT, but by doing it early he fits in and his claim gets cred if people follow Chezinu's plan, while simultaneously he comes out against it so he's on the right side of popular opinion if everyone else says "wtf chezinu your plan is scummy and terrible". (scummy and terrible - just like "the game" right?) (+ Show Spoiler +)

Finally, there's one less significant thing that I still want to call attention to. (well, less significant than the rest of my case. Still more significant than crossfire's success with the opposite gender.)




The interesting thing here is that in the first post, he "proposed" the idea that in the future he might play without reading his role PM (which, by the way, is a really weird thing to write a post about in the first place - more fluff, I guess?) but then after I yell at him about it, he claims that he just checked his role PM for the first time. I don't believe for a second that he actually played that far into the game without checking his role PM, but why would he phrase his response to me like that? I think it's because he was trying to be super-conciliatory after I yelled at him; he probably guessed that saying "okay I checked it" was the most direct way to get me off his back, when he should have said "I didn't try that this game, in the future I will not play like that."

Again, this last point is less significant, but it is a discrepancy and I think there is a scum motivation for it.

The main counterpoint to this case, that I can see, is (if Mementoss flips scum) the fact that crossfire voted for Mementoss yesterday. However, I'm not convinced that means very much. Don't forget, Gonzaw made sure that Mementoss wouldn't be lynched yesterday with his weird voting behavior. I could totally see a scum team tripping itself up like that if two of the players voted early (or committed early to voting, in Gonzaw's case) for their teammate, and then had to backpedal furiously when it turned out that he might actually get lynched. Anyway, this is only relevant if Mementoss flips scum.

On November 05 2012 03:39 Hopeless1der wrote:

Sometimes people just want to see a 'good performance'
.

On November 05 2012 03:39 Hopeless1der wrote:

Sometimes people just want to see a 'good performance'

@SnB - I was actually attacking Crossfire because I thought he was BKE's scumbuddy at that point.
When you say MMT has claimed scum, you mean the way he's given up and is just spamming in-your-endo's?


I almost 100% agree with Chezinu's painting, its very lifelike.

We presumably know the number of scum = 3

3 Scum (1 confirmed)
4 Performers (1 confirmed)
3 Audience
1 Host
=11 Players Total
Potential for 4 Audience/No Host based on setup speculation
That means its currently 7v2 or 6v2v1.

Chezinu thinks he's got all the audience. I'm not convinced on Crossfire in that list but I am confident that MMT is either Black or Red. gonzaw's shenanigans makes him being red far more likely.
Then again, what to make of this:


MMT, don't pull a BKE if you don't have to. Open up a little more. I promise it won't hurt, much.

On November 05 2012 03:39 Hopeless1der wrote:

Sometimes people just want to see a 'good performance'

@SnB - I was actually attacking Crossfire because I thought he was BKE's scumbuddy at that point.
When you say MMT has claimed scum, you mean the way he's given up and is just spamming in-your-endo's?


I almost 100% agree with Chezinu's painting, its very lifelike.

We presumably know the number of scum = 3

3 Scum (1 confirmed)
4 Performers (1 confirmed)
3 Audience
1 Host
=11 Players Total
Potential for 4 Audience/No Host based on setup speculation
That means its currently 7v2 or 6v2v1.

Chezinu thinks he's got all the audience. I'm not convinced on Crossfire in that list but I am confident that MMT is either Black or Red. gonzaw's shenanigans makes him being red far more likely.
Then again, what to make of this:


MMT, don't pull a BKE if you don't have to. Open up a little more. I promise it won't hurt, much.