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On November 02 2012 09:28 Mementoss wrote:
F keirathi made that huge discussion vote but still didn't commit to anyone, hes actually set to be modkilled/replaced at this point.
Give me a little credit. Had something come up right at the end of my time out, and I had to leave for a while longer. I'll consolidate onto BKE, because I believe that the case against him is stronger than the "case" against you. Just to be clear, though, that whole post was me committing to my reads.
##Vote: BroodKingExe
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lol @ gonzaw
What did you expect me to do? I said 3 hours ago that I was going to vote for BKE unless people would consolidate onto you. Yea, my vote was at the end of the day, but its not like I didn't say I wasn't going to consolidate if I needed to. The only other option was to just not vote and get modkilled; is that what you wanted? I don't understand the faux anger.
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On November 02 2012 10:16 Adam4167 wrote:Show nested quote +On November 02 2012 10:12 Keirathi wrote:
lol @ gonzaw
What did you expect me to do? I said 3 hours ago that I was going to vote for BKE unless people would consolidate onto you. Yea, my vote was at the end of the day, but its not like I didn't say I wasn't going to consolidate if I needed to. The only other option was to just not vote and get modkilled; is that what you wanted? I don't understand the faux anger. You did exactly what he expected you to do, you came in, followed your read on BKE, giving him the opportunity to throw away his vote on Mementoss, without risk of having his teammate killed.
That might actually be a reasonably explanation. If he wasn't restricted from voting during his timeout, why didn't he vote Mementoss earlier when it would have actually ensured Mementoss's lynch? He only waited until after I had already voted.
Hmm...
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##GivePoints: Strongandbig
I mean, its not like the points matter anyways, right!?
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On November 03 2012 01:53 Blazinghand wrote:
if i give you my points can you use them to kill Adam
Maybe you could lay out why you think he's scum in a well laid out case post? I'm just not seeing it, reading through his filter.
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On November 03 2012 04:09 gonzaw wrote:Show nested quote +On November 02 2012 10:12 Keirathi wrote:
lol @ gonzaw
What did you expect me to do? I said 3 hours ago that I was going to vote for BKE unless people would consolidate onto you. Yea, my vote was at the end of the day, but its not like I didn't say I wasn't going to consolidate if I needed to. The only other option was to just not vote and get modkilled; is that what you wanted? I don't understand the faux anger. How about not coming with a "ninja-vote" right before the deadline and vote before that? When I was skimming the thread I was too busy trying to figure out the Mementos/BKE issue so I didn't pay much attention to it, but I kind of thought you were getting modkilled/replaced like that Djingu guy. Why didn't you vote BKE when you made that huge post saying you wanted to lynch BKE for instance? Why did you wait until the last second to vote?
Because I wanted to see if there was any support for lynching you instead.
You still haven't responded to BH's case (or my addition points), btw.
Why did you spent so much time tunneling day 1, when your townie meta is to be suspicious of EVERYONE while gradually making town reads?
Also, I suggest you read http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/viewmessage.php?topic_id=376602&user=265522
Hell, you should probably read Aperture again too, and compare it to Liquid City which was running at the EXACT SAME TIME. Aperture was an anomaly in my play style, not the norm.
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Okay, I gave S&B 500 points.
I can't do anything with them, and I think S&B is probably town. Or at least, nothing he has said this game has made me think otherwise.
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On November 03 2012 04:53 gonzaw wrote:
I also clearly am not "tunneling" you if you read my posts correctly. Saying that is a lie, I never tunnel anybody as town(i may be biased though, but I seriously don't think I've tunneled people for the sake of it, unless they were scum), just find them scummy as fuck and want peoples opinions on said player to make up my mind, and post my thoughts on said player and vote the player most likely to flip scum.
Maybe tunneling is a bit strong of a word. But, the only person you questioned/accused for 90% of the day was me. Looking back through Not Themed, and Aperture, you were suspicious of everyone and questioning them constantly. You did finally settle on town reads on people and left them alone, but you didn't focus 90% of your attention onto one person at any point of day 1 in those games.
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Finally, a game that I can really dig in to, if you know what I mean.
Also, huge night plays, if you know what I'm saying.
I'd be pretty down with a Mementoss lynch today. The situation around the deadline was pretty fishy, if you know what I mean.
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On November 03 2012 23:11 Mementoss wrote:
ask me anything maybe I can clear shit up for you
Maybe you could tell us who you think is dirty, if you catch my drift.
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[b]If a vet gets roleblocked, can he still take a shot?{/b]
I ask because some hosts allow passive powers to work through roleblock, and some don't.
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On November 04 2012 04:58 Mementoss wrote:
case is bad apparently
Lol.
##vote: mementoss
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On November 04 2012 05:06 Mementoss wrote:Show nested quote +On November 04 2012 05:00 Keirathi wrote:On November 04 2012 04:58 Mementoss wrote:
case is bad apparently Lol. ##vote: mementoss classic keirathi
How about you answer the questions that you were so willing to be asked?
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So Mementoss, you said that you still think I am scum. For the same reasons as your day 1 case?
What about the fact that gonzaw was pressuring me all day? Or that, in turn, I wanted to get him lynched? Or that I was willing to hammer BKE, when I could have just voted gonzaw and not cared about which of you two died?
There are a lot of things that happened since you made that case, and you literally haven't commented on any of them.
Anyone else you find scummy besides me?
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On November 04 2012 07:00 Mementoss wrote:
But I already half gave up on this game, because everyone has the mentality come in and make 1 post the whole day saying im voting mementoss, like that is going to catch a scum :S. Its basically some bullshit WIFOM that was probably placed purposely. It only takes 1 wolf in sheeps clothing to lead the herd, if you know what I mean
Then fucking do something that makes people think that you are town. You're not doing a good job at it at this point.
But since you're here, maybe you can comment on this, since you didn't the first time I mentioned it:
On November 02 2012 02:13 Keirathi wrote:Show nested quote +On November 02 2012 01:52 Mementoss wrote:
Part II - Doesn't fit the meta
Every game I have played with Keirathi he has been very active and has been a major part in pushing discussion. Even if hes not scumhunting hes pushing discussion in strategic ways. This game has been the very opposite. He is a commentator, active, without pushing discussion to actually find scum. That is all I have to say on this, because meta should just be a supportable part not the main part of a case.
Part 2) *EVERY* game you've played with me? So...just Liquid City and Aperture 2? Two games that were going on at the exact same time and I had vastly different playstyles and time commitments. Hell, the ONLY thing I did in LC on day 1 was yell at kush a bunch, and throw some weak arguments onto kingjames, then afk for 24+ hours.
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On November 04 2012 07:21 Mementoss wrote:Show nested quote +On November 04 2012 07:17 Blazinghand wrote:
I'm saying you should hunt scum. im gunna need a better gun
Are....are you claiming vig? And that you shot gonzaw?
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Stutters:
Care to comment on anything? Between you and your predecessor, you have a total of 4 posts in 96 hours of game time.
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On November 04 2012 09:32 Stutters695 wrote:Show nested quote +On November 04 2012 07:23 Adam4167 wrote:On November 04 2012 06:55 Mementoss wrote:On November 04 2012 06:41 Keirathi wrote:
So Mementoss, you said that you still think I am scum. For the same reasons as your day 1 case?
What about the fact that gonzaw was pressuring me all day? Or that, in turn, I wanted to get him lynched? Or that I was willing to hammer BKE, when I could have just voted gonzaw and not cared about which of you two died?
There are a lot of things that happened since you made that case, and you literally haven't commented on any of them.
Anyone else you find scummy besides me? Because you had 1 fucking good post all day, right now you are trying to make yourself look good about talking abotu gonzaw. But like everything else you didn't do fucking shit about it. It took you a year to commit to a vote, you hammered a townie congrats. Your 1 good post focused on putting the whole town to either lynch me or BKE, so you forced the whole town into that mentality of BKE vs me, 2 townies. That is scum motivation to cut down everyones view, and to give yourself cred for not committing to jack shit when it came to gonzaw. You honestly believe the events in the twilight of day 1 would have occurred the way they did if both yourself and BKE were town? Not a chance. Additionally if you do somehow flip town that'll put a bunch of suspicion on Adam. You haven't really given me any reason to think that you'll flip town though. I'd like to turn my attention to Chezinu though. Care to do something this game other than useless one liners? As an aside, I suck at this, if you know what I mean. (For clarity "this" means the innuendo game.)
Why does Mementoss flipping town incriminate Adam? I'm not saying I agree or disagree, I just want to know your thought process behind that statement.
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On November 04 2012 09:39 Keirathi wrote:Show nested quote +On November 04 2012 09:32 Stutters695 wrote:On November 04 2012 07:23 Adam4167 wrote:On November 04 2012 06:55 Mementoss wrote:On November 04 2012 06:41 Keirathi wrote:
So Mementoss, you said that you still think I am scum. For the same reasons as your day 1 case?
What about the fact that gonzaw was pressuring me all day? Or that, in turn, I wanted to get him lynched? Or that I was willing to hammer BKE, when I could have just voted gonzaw and not cared about which of you two died?
There are a lot of things that happened since you made that case, and you literally haven't commented on any of them.
Anyone else you find scummy besides me? Because you had 1 fucking good post all day, right now you are trying to make yourself look good about talking abotu gonzaw. But like everything else you didn't do fucking shit about it. It took you a year to commit to a vote, you hammered a townie congrats. Your 1 good post focused on putting the whole town to either lynch me or BKE, so you forced the whole town into that mentality of BKE vs me, 2 townies. That is scum motivation to cut down everyones view, and to give yourself cred for not committing to jack shit when it came to gonzaw. You honestly believe the events in the twilight of day 1 would have occurred the way they did if both yourself and BKE were town? Not a chance. Additionally if you do somehow flip town that'll put a bunch of suspicion on Adam. You haven't really given me any reason to think that you'll flip town though. I'd like to turn my attention to Chezinu though. Care to do something this game other than useless one liners? As an aside, I suck at this, if you know what I mean. (For clarity "this" means the innuendo game.) Why does Mementoss flipping town incriminate Adam? I'm not saying I agree or disagree, I just want to know your thought process behind that statement.
EBWOP: Also, why did you ninja vote Mementoss without talking about it here in the thread? Especially considering your only post during the night was talking about Adam vs gonzaw, and that you would vote gonzaw over Adam. Now, Mementoss flipping town would make you suspicious of him?
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On November 04 2012 09:32 Stutters695 wrote:
Additionally if you do somehow flip town that'll put a bunch of suspicion on Adam. You haven't really given me any reason to think that you'll flip town though.
On November 04 2012 09:59 Stutters695 wrote:
I'm not saying a Mementoss town flip incriminates Adam however Mementoss' defense of himself was saying that Adam was forcing a vote between two townies will be evident if Mementoss flips town.
I really don't understand what you're saying here. Am I the only one?
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