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Adam4167
Profile Joined June 2011
Australia1426 Posts
November 02 2012 05:22 GMT
#338
Yeah, this'll be good. You seem to be incapable of seeing anything I do from anything but a scum perspective.

Are you so blinded by your own confidence in yourself that you haven't even considered that you might be completely wrong?
Adam4167
Profile Joined June 2011
Australia1426 Posts
November 02 2012 05:53 GMT
#340
So that would be a no to my original question then?
Adam4167
Profile Joined June 2011
Australia1426 Posts
November 02 2012 07:07 GMT
#342
I will be more direct with you then if you insist on dodging.

You think me and Gonzaw scum, who is our third teammate?
Adam4167
Profile Joined June 2011
Australia1426 Posts
November 02 2012 08:43 GMT
#345
And as I have said, if you would like my opinion on a specific player, then simply ask. I do not post my thoughts for the sake of just posting as I find it needlessly inflates the thread.

If I was someone else thinking 'damn this Adam guy is scum' I'd be wrong, since he's not.
Adam4167
Profile Joined June 2011
Australia1426 Posts
November 03 2012 00:20 GMT
#370
On November 03 2012 04:24 strongandbig wrote:

Then there's this post from Adam, which is scummy as all fuck IMO:

Show nested quote +
On November 02 2012 17:43 Adam4167 wrote:
And as I have said, if you would like my opinion on a specific player, then simply ask. I do not post my thoughts for the sake of just posting as I find it needlessly inflates the thread.

If I was someone else thinking 'damn this Adam guy is scum' I'd be wrong, since he's not.


like a few things - "I don't post thoughts for the sake of just posting," if he was Gonzaw then this would be a valid sentiment but from the vast majority of players, more thread presence as a townie makes it easier to establish your innocence and helps the town.

Second, "if you want me to talk about anyone specific then ask" - I could be going against popular opinion here, but I think that while trying to get specific players to talk about each other is a townie thing to do - well, at least if you choose the two players correctly - I don't think just going "If you push me on something then I'll talk about it, but otherwise I'm gonna keep my mouth shut" is a very town thing to do.


This is not scum motivated. I will comment on things in the thread that I feel are worth mentioning, I will respond to direct questions when they are posed to me. I hate reading 15+ page long filters and I hate reading gigantic posts of waffle which contain every single thought that passes through a persons brain.

I will point you to the guide stuck at the top of this forum written by incognito and other exceptional players at this game:

On January 09 2012 15:49 Incognito wrote:

Posting in the Thread


A. General Posting Strategy


Being an obvious innocent is worth a lot more than being an active but confused poster. Don’t babble. If you speak without having a clear goal in mind, you impede the town and decrease everyone else’s productivity. This paralyzes town analysis and decision-making and allows mafia to hide in the chaos. You don’t have to be a super-active poster to prove your innocence or be useful to the town.

You do not need to be useful in an active and eye-popping way. Perhaps due to historical inactivity, TL Mafia players seem to have an unnatural urge to post everything that comes to mind in an attempt to avoid inactivity and keep the ball rolling. However, there are worse things than inactivity, and a game can hardly be called active if it is only the same 8 people repeating themselves in the thread. Your primary goal should be post quality rather than quantity. The game thread is not twitter. You don’t have to reply to every post or question you see with “@PlayerName”.


Don’t try to say everything. Don’t respond to every point. (This means don’t post an analysis quoting all of your target’s posts!) This muddles your agenda and clutters up the thread. Stick to the important points.



Your concern to want me to post more is genuine though, so have my points:

##Give 1000 Points: strongandbig

If this gets me killed, then so be it. Hopefully you reread the thread with my flip in mind and use that information correctly.
Adam4167
Profile Joined June 2011
Australia1426 Posts
November 03 2012 00:47 GMT
#376
To that mess of a post that gonzaw posted:

-Stop making gigantic posts, they are nigh on unreadable and a pain in the ass to quote.

-Yes, I retold exactly what you did with my interpretation of why you did it, that's called behavioural analysis, its an important part of forum mafia.

-You are trying to pin the BKE lynch on me? I was voting in the right direction, for Mementoss. I made my thoughts on both BKE and Mementoss crystal clear.

-That giant post of your 'thought process' stinks of insincerity. You clearly see that yesterdays lynch is to be decided by whoever is going to put down the next vote between you and kierathi, you say as much in the 4th line, but rather than take the lead and wear the consequences you sit on your vote for an hour and do nothing with it. Your posting restriction did not prevent you from being active in the voting thread and putting your vote on Mementoss, in line with YOUR OWN READS. At the time I thought it unnecessary to try and convince you to follow your own reads because they're your own freaking reads, and I expected you to follow them.
Adam4167
Profile Joined June 2011
Australia1426 Posts
November 03 2012 02:10 GMT
#383
Oh, shock horror.

Thankyou whoever did that.

So Mementoss today?
Adam4167
Profile Joined June 2011
Australia1426 Posts
November 03 2012 22:23 GMT
#448
On November 04 2012 06:55 Mementoss wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 04 2012 06:41 Keirathi wrote:
So Mementoss, you said that you still think I am scum. For the same reasons as your day 1 case?

What about the fact that gonzaw was pressuring me all day? Or that, in turn, I wanted to get him lynched? Or that I was willing to hammer BKE, when I could have just voted gonzaw and not cared about which of you two died?

There are a lot of things that happened since you made that case, and you literally haven't commented on any of them.

Anyone else you find scummy besides me?


Because you had 1 fucking good post all day, right now you are trying to make yourself look good about talking abotu gonzaw. But like everything else you didn't do fucking shit about it. It took you a year to commit to a vote, you hammered a townie congrats. Your 1 good post focused on putting the whole town to either lynch me or BKE, so you forced the whole town into that mentality of BKE vs me, 2 townies. That is scum motivation to cut down everyones view, and to give yourself cred for not committing to jack shit when it came to gonzaw.



You honestly believe the events in the twilight of day 1 would have occurred the way they did if both yourself and BKE were town? Not a chance.



Adam4167
Profile Joined June 2011
Australia1426 Posts
November 04 2012 01:05 GMT
#462
On November 04 2012 09:53 Chezinu wrote:
Just so you guys know, I can paint with pretty colors..

Mementoss
Djagulingu Stutter695
Crossfire99
Hopeless1der
Adam4167
BroodKingEXE
gonzaw
Keirathi
Blazinghand
strongandbig
Chezinu


Chezinu, you thought Mementoss worth your vote yesterday and with everything that has transpired since then, you are now unsure? I kind of don't get that.
Adam4167
Profile Joined June 2011
Australia1426 Posts
November 04 2012 01:07 GMT
#465
No worries. My painting is finished, it looks very similar to yours, would you like to see it?
Adam4167
Profile Joined June 2011
Australia1426 Posts
November 04 2012 01:32 GMT
#475
Except there are 4 audience members chezinu
Adam4167
Profile Joined June 2011
Australia1426 Posts
November 04 2012 01:45 GMT
#480
Trying to look active there Hopeless?

Assuming Mementoss flips scum, which he will, you're my choice for the 3rd scum.
Adam4167
Profile Joined June 2011
Australia1426 Posts
November 04 2012 01:53 GMT
#482
To be honest, I don't have any questions to ask you, as I have you scum as a process of elimination of the day 1 votes.

But you are right, lets not get ahead of ourselves, Ill see Mementoss bleed first.


I'm off to the pub, I can still post via my phone if necessary.
Adam4167
Profile Joined June 2011
Australia1426 Posts
November 04 2012 10:12 GMT
#522
Still here Keirathi?
Adam4167
Profile Joined June 2011
Australia1426 Posts
November 04 2012 23:46 GMT
#586
On November 05 2012 07:56 Crossfire99 wrote:
Yeah, so you think that my interaction with Mementoss in my case against him was weird? He brushed off my earlier comment so I laid down explicitly why he was wrong. Also, if you are saying I'm scum, why would I essentially out my one scum buddy, gonzaw, with my vote on my other scum buddy, Mementoss? That vote forced gonzaw to not vote for mementoss before someone hammered brood. That basically outed gonzaw and got him killed last night. If I was scum, I could have voted brood, thus saving gonzaw from acting crazy at the deadline and keeping him alive last night.


The final scum was voting BKE yesterday and this paragraph is exactly why. Any one of us on Mementoss could have switched off and prevented two scum from outing themselves, if scum.

About those that were voting BKE yesterday:
Its not Blazinghand, as he gave Gonzaw a lead lobotomy last night. Nor is it S&B, as he absorbed the night shot.

Leaving either Hopeless or Keirathi.

Keirathi was Gonzaw and Mementoss main mislynch target, I am confident that this wasn't some kind of double bus.

Leaving Hopeless by the process of elimination.


And what about our non-voting replacement? Well there's a chance its him, but Mementoss did try and swing attention onto his predecessor, plus right after he replaced in, he made a comment about gonzaw being a better target then myself. I'm willing to kill hopeless first over him .
Adam4167
Profile Joined June 2011
Australia1426 Posts
November 05 2012 00:01 GMT
#592
On November 05 2012 08:51 strongandbig wrote:

Okay so what I'm confused about here is, why would any other mementoss voter switching off mementoss at the last minute have looked any better than what gonzaw did? Maybe I'm missing something but I don't think we can just write off all the mementoss voters like that.


The point is that gonzaw had to act like a lunatic around the vote time because there was no other scum on the Mementoss wagon to switch off.

If Chezinu, for example, had been scum and come back and just switched, he would have copped -some- flack for it, but it wouldn't have incriminated two of his teammates, just brought some heat down on himself.

Adam4167
Profile Joined June 2011
Australia1426 Posts
November 05 2012 00:06 GMT
#594
On November 05 2012 08:54 Crossfire99 wrote:
What do you think of stutter's talk about my meta? Was it just a brain fart or do you think he lied about doing research on me?


Yeah probably just overlooked it, seems like a harmless mistake to me.
Adam4167
Profile Joined June 2011
Australia1426 Posts
November 05 2012 00:29 GMT
#595
Even if you're not convinced by the day 1 votes, lets look at some of Hopeless1der's posts from today.

I flippantly accuse him of being scum. The correct response would have been "Me? why!? You haven't even mentioned me all game, where is this coming from?"

Instead we got:
On November 04 2012 10:47 Hopeless1der wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 04 2012 10:45 Adam4167 wrote:
Trying to look active there Hopeless?

Assuming Mementoss flips scum, which he will, you're my choice for the 3rd scum.

That's fine, we'll get to that later. Let me know what you'd like to question me about in the meantime, if you're so inclined. I've got all the answers you're looking for.


Not only does he not seem surprised that he is drawing attention, but he claims to have all the answers I want, as if he's been thinking about what he's going to say when he gets accused.

His post on Keirathi was just complete piffle, a waste of time to appear active.

And finally:
On November 05 2012 08:52 Hopeless1der wrote:
If I die before Adam, and he doesn't swiftly follow me to the afterlife, I'll be gravely disappointed. If you know what I mean.


So, instead of trying to convince me that he is town, as I did to BH's pressure, he just goes straight to "I really hope you kill this guy". If he were town, why would he want to kill someone that he doesn't even know the alignment of, it could just be a bad tunnel from a townie.


Does not have a townie mind.
Adam4167
Profile Joined June 2011
Australia1426 Posts
November 05 2012 00:46 GMT
#600
On November 05 2012 09:35 Hopeless1der wrote:
Adam, I don't feel the need to convince you. I'm going to be stupidly difficult to lynch, especially today. You're "process" of elimination wouldn't have been that scummy, but it is significantly flawed. You're taking things at face value that should not be so easily accepted for someone with your information. The manner in which you reason things out suggests scum motive to me.


I am not trying to get you lynched today, its Mementoss turn to dance the hempen jig.

Your turn is tomorrow, but I may as well make my thoughts known today, as its a slow news day and someone will most probably die tonight.
Adam4167
Profile Joined June 2011
Australia1426 Posts
November 05 2012 00:49 GMT
#601
On November 05 2012 09:44 Hopeless1der wrote:
EBWOP: Unless he's scum, then yeah, he has special info.


The only 'special information' that I have access to is having your entire team pinned by the end of day 1.

I have my reads, I back them in to be right.
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