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On November 04 2012 01:27 drazak wrote:Show nested quote +On November 04 2012 01:09 thrawn2112 wrote:On November 02 2012 20:02 kushm4sta wrote:
Acro Wtf... Why is town fake claiming...
So vts look at your role name. Jessica rabbit does not fit the theme. Kid watching tv kind of does though.
##unvote
##vote acro
Calls Acro town... then votes Acro? I think Kush just didn't think Acro was town at the time, so he's like, "why the fuck are you fake claiming and then saying you fake claimed and then still claim town?" I think it was just incredulity. This just comes from watching a lot of kush's game though and knowing how his troll mind works.
Drazek, what was fluff in my post.
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On November 04 2012 01:36 Acrofales wrote:Show nested quote +On November 04 2012 00:56 risk.nuke wrote:
I'm heading to a Halloween party in a while. If anyone want to talk with me before daypost it's now. I somehow doubt mafia will shoot you, but you never know. How about you give out some reads. You haven't given out any in like... 40 hours. You were critical of prplhz before the crazyness happened, but never switched off Muso. You haven't given out reads on anybody else since. How about you start.
I don't post that during night unless I think I'm going to die or is vastly dissatisfied with the town.
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Acro I think it's safe to assume you were jailed.
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Lets take a step back at day 1 before idiocy occurred.
Prplhz
Prplhz was almost set to be lynched and rightfully so. The pressure gets to much for him and he replaces out. Also a scumtrait any day of the weak.
Promethelax
Promethelax haven't done nearly as much as he is trying to take credit for. And while he claims to have pushed candidates. He's not pushed anyone with a chance of actually dying which to me is the same as nothing.
On November 03 2012 02:11 Promethelax wrote:
Muso: care to give us any history of your Mafia play ever or should I assume you are another 4f smurf(which is the assumption I am playing under)?
I think Muso is a bad lynch today but probably an excellent Vig shot. I hope the vig(s) are taking him into consideration. The reason I think he is a bad lynch is that he is too easy to jump on and Scum have a good way to hide their votes by sheeping all of town. I want a lynch that has some controversy so that everyone actually has to take a stand, without that we won't gain anything from d1. I want a case from every player in the game on someone before the lynch goes through.
Townies: get your opinions out there, with that the scum will not be able to hide in the shadows.
IN this vein I think that Matt is scum, he is playing in a way which obscures the goals of town and allows confusion into the thread. He is dropping his reads without iving any explanation and he is trying to get us to lynch Newbies for newbie mistakes. Scum.
## Vote: Matt The post I dislike the most.
Situation: Muso is going to die, not lynching him would be amazing idiocy.
In this post Prom tries to make himself look townie by being opposed to a townie-lynch (that will happen anyway). However that doesn't make any sense because the townie thing to do is to kill muso, So what prom is doing is superdumb or Scum trying to gain towncred by being opposed to a townie lynch that will happen anyway.
Additionally he claims Mattchew is scum with the worst claimed read of the century. There is no way on heaven or earth I can believe that is his legit read.
I don't buy his roleblock claim. I don't think scum would have roleblocked him and I don't Mattchew would use his 1-shot roleblock. I'm pretty sure we can't have another roleblocker because if I remember correctly another roleblock point would upgrade the 1-shot roleblocker to regular roleblocker.
It's a very convenient claim that doesn't make sense. Alas I think he's lying his pants of.
##vote: Promethelax
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On November 04 2012 22:03 drazak wrote:
so... we've got an sk for sure? No way that was a vig shot or something?
Hey kush, why did you bluehunt so hard, I'm not cool with that.
We could have a vig, Zealos looks like a vig shot but it's unlikely since we already have two flipped blues.
On November 04 2012 21:54 Promethelax wrote:
Oh, Risk, do you really think that prp is that weak a scum player? Is he the sort of guy you see running away from pressure? That seems blatantly false, he is a good player and I don't see him doing that. If you don;t have some way to prove that he is a 'weak player' I will be moving you towards the scum side of the bracket for twisting information in an attempt to lynch me.
Scum does this so often it's bizarre. When I first started playing I thought replacements likely took over bored townies. The truth is the bored townies and even busy townies most often just lurk. Mafia who feel the pressure is to much or for another reason feel they aren't doing well feel they are letting their failing their team so they replace out.
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On November 04 2012 21:50 Promethelax wrote:Show nested quote +On November 04 2012 21:42 risk.nuke wrote:Lets take a step back at day 1 before idiocy occurred. Prplhz Prplhz was almost set to be lynched and rightfully so. The pressure gets to much for him and he replaces out. Also a scumtrait any day of the weak. PromethelaxPromethelax haven't done nearly as much as he is trying to take credit for. And while he claims to have pushed candidates. He's not pushed anyone with a chance of actually dying which to me is the same as nothing. On November 03 2012 02:11 Promethelax wrote:
Muso: care to give us any history of your Mafia play ever or should I assume you are another 4f smurf(which is the assumption I am playing under)?
I think Muso is a bad lynch today but probably an excellent Vig shot. I hope the vig(s) are taking him into consideration. The reason I think he is a bad lynch is that he is too easy to jump on and Scum have a good way to hide their votes by sheeping all of town. I want a lynch that has some controversy so that everyone actually has to take a stand, without that we won't gain anything from d1. I want a case from every player in the game on someone before the lynch goes through.
Townies: get your opinions out there, with that the scum will not be able to hide in the shadows.
IN this vein I think that Matt is scum, he is playing in a way which obscures the goals of town and allows confusion into the thread. He is dropping his reads without iving any explanation and he is trying to get us to lynch Newbies for newbie mistakes. Scum.
## Vote: Matt The post I dislike the most. Situation: Muso is going to die, not lynching him would be amazing idiocy. In this post Prom tries to make himself look townie by being opposed to a townie-lynch (that will happen anyway). However that doesn't make any sense because the townie thing to do is to kill muso, So what prom is doing is superdumb or Scum trying to gain towncred by being opposed to a townie lynch that will happen anyway. Additionally he claims Mattchew is scum with the worst claimed read of the century. There is no way on heaven or earth I can believe that is his legit read.
I don't buy his roleblock claim. I don't think scum would have roleblocked him and I don't Mattchew would use his 1-shot roleblock. I'm pretty sure we can't have another roleblocker because if I remember correctly another roleblock point would upgrade the 1-shot roleblocker to regular roleblocker. It's a very convenient claim that doesn't make sense. Alas I think he's lying his pants of. ##vote: Promethelax You were in LC too, remember how bad it was sitting there with one lynch candidate getting nowhere and having no one post reads or even participate? Yeah, me too. I wanted to make sure there was some discussion as I didn't get enough of a scum read off of Muso to be okay blindly lynching him. If I was scum I would have sheeped onto the easy lynch. Not fight it and push other candidates, even consolidating on another candidate to try to push the lynch to a guy who was way scummier than Muso. I was aware that whatever Mus flipped it could be used to push me and the next lynch if he is red I was defending him and trying to keep one of/my scumbuddy from being lynched. If he was green I was trying to gain town cred. I'd have gone for the easy lynch. You can vote me but when I flip green you'll have to notice that I was one of the most townie players in the game. What have I claimed to be doing that isn't true? Please, show me where I have mislead anyone into thinking I have done more than I have.
You can't compare Muso with a week of confirmed mafia to lynch. But thanks for the comparison. Now you've admitted knowing killing Muso was the right thing to do.
@DP: Bending my words is not wise with me, last warning you'll get.
He didn't have a read I disagreed with. He had a godawful read that didn't make sense.
I don't care if you were to dumb to see why Mattchew had acted distinctly townie.
He wasn't your best scumread and you weren't calling him scum for incredibly poor reasons.
If we had a dt check on prplhz you wouldn't just say. Oh well, new guy lets disregard it.
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On November 04 2012 22:12 Promethelax wrote:Show nested quote +On November 04 2012 22:09 risk.nuke wrote:On November 04 2012 22:03 drazak wrote:
so... we've got an sk for sure? No way that was a vig shot or something?
Hey kush, why did you bluehunt so hard, I'm not cool with that. We could have a vig, Zealos looks like a vig shot but it's unlikely since we already have two flipped blues. On November 04 2012 21:54 Promethelax wrote:
Oh, Risk, do you really think that prp is that weak a scum player? Is he the sort of guy you see running away from pressure? That seems blatantly false, he is a good player and I don't see him doing that. If you don;t have some way to prove that he is a 'weak player' I will be moving you towards the scum side of the bracket for twisting information in an attempt to lynch me. Scum does this so often it's bizarre. When I first started playing I thought replacements likely took over bored townies. The truth is the bored townies and even busy townies most often just lurk. Mafia who feel the pressure is to much or for another reason feel they aren't doing well feel they are letting their failing their team so they replace out. weird. Never seen the connection. Mt first newbie two guys replaced out and both were townie, LC we had a 1-1 replacement. I have not seen this pattern. Please post the reads you said you wouldn't post at night. Is your shoddy case on me all you've got?
Nothing shoddy about my case. Naming it won't make it so.
Convince me why it would be a good idea to tell the town my town or lesser scum reads and I will.
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He came out strong pushing reads. His goal was to generate discussion and that was what he accomplished. Distinct town behavior. Later he handled the Muso situation well. Granted this isn't enough to call him confirmed townie but there were no doubt he played like a townie.
On November 04 2012 22:30 Promethelax wrote:
Risk, Having your other, lesser, scum reads in the thread provides townies with something which they can hold you to. If you are town this doesn't affect you and if you are mafia it hinders you. Net gain for town. This isn't about what you will gain from it, it is about what town will gain.
Your case is shoddy though, it is based on
1) prp asking for a replacement
2) one post of mine which was in a huge pile which as a whole stated why I was opposed to one lynch and preferred another
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3) twisting my words and actions.
You make muso being lynched a foregone conclusion and yet there was a part of the day where he had 6 votes, I had 3 and Draz had 3. That was not a 100% situation and during that time I tried to push people off of muso and onto Draz.
I'm pushing strongly for my strongest scumread. Saying you will hold me for the other reads are just bloody silly if I'm not pushing to get them lynched. Just empty words easy for scum to fake. If I share my townreads it's just like giving the mafia a list of people to pick of.
- As for your three points. Prplhz replacements is just an additional point and not in the slightest the maincase against prplhz. Nice try to dismiss it as such though...
- I don't see how even your description in your second point to why my case is shoddy is shoddy.
- Thirdly, bring up where I have twisted your words or actions.
You make muso being lynched a foregone conclusion and yet there was a part of the day where he had 6 votes, I had 3 and Draz had 3. That was not a 100% situation and during that time I tried to push people off of muso and onto Draz. Thank you for earlier confessing that you believed Muso was scum. Believed Muso should be killed. Were trying to convince people not to lynch him. You don't have a train of thoughts to save your life.
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On November 04 2012 23:00 DarthPunk wrote:Show nested quote +On November 04 2012 22:20 risk.nuke wrote:On November 04 2012 21:50 Promethelax wrote:On November 04 2012 21:42 risk.nuke wrote:Lets take a step back at day 1 before idiocy occurred. Prplhz Prplhz was almost set to be lynched and rightfully so. The pressure gets to much for him and he replaces out. Also a scumtrait any day of the weak. PromethelaxPromethelax haven't done nearly as much as he is trying to take credit for. And while he claims to have pushed candidates. He's not pushed anyone with a chance of actually dying which to me is the same as nothing. On November 03 2012 02:11 Promethelax wrote:
Muso: care to give us any history of your Mafia play ever or should I assume you are another 4f smurf(which is the assumption I am playing under)?
I think Muso is a bad lynch today but probably an excellent Vig shot. I hope the vig(s) are taking him into consideration. The reason I think he is a bad lynch is that he is too easy to jump on and Scum have a good way to hide their votes by sheeping all of town. I want a lynch that has some controversy so that everyone actually has to take a stand, without that we won't gain anything from d1. I want a case from every player in the game on someone before the lynch goes through.
Townies: get your opinions out there, with that the scum will not be able to hide in the shadows.
IN this vein I think that Matt is scum, he is playing in a way which obscures the goals of town and allows confusion into the thread. He is dropping his reads without iving any explanation and he is trying to get us to lynch Newbies for newbie mistakes. Scum.
## Vote: Matt The post I dislike the most. Situation: Muso is going to die, not lynching him would be amazing idiocy. In this post Prom tries to make himself look townie by being opposed to a townie-lynch (that will happen anyway). However that doesn't make any sense because the townie thing to do is to kill muso, So what prom is doing is superdumb or Scum trying to gain towncred by being opposed to a townie lynch that will happen anyway. Additionally he claims Mattchew is scum with the worst claimed read of the century. There is no way on heaven or earth I can believe that is his legit read.
I don't buy his roleblock claim. I don't think scum would have roleblocked him and I don't Mattchew would use his 1-shot roleblock. I'm pretty sure we can't have another roleblocker because if I remember correctly another roleblock point would upgrade the 1-shot roleblocker to regular roleblocker. It's a very convenient claim that doesn't make sense. Alas I think he's lying his pants of. ##vote: Promethelax You were in LC too, remember how bad it was sitting there with one lynch candidate getting nowhere and having no one post reads or even participate? Yeah, me too. I wanted to make sure there was some discussion as I didn't get enough of a scum read off of Muso to be okay blindly lynching him. If I was scum I would have sheeped onto the easy lynch. Not fight it and push other candidates, even consolidating on another candidate to try to push the lynch to a guy who was way scummier than Muso. I was aware that whatever Mus flipped it could be used to push me and the next lynch if he is red I was defending him and trying to keep one of/my scumbuddy from being lynched. If he was green I was trying to gain town cred. I'd have gone for the easy lynch. You can vote me but when I flip green you'll have to notice that I was one of the most townie players in the game. What have I claimed to be doing that isn't true? Please, show me where I have mislead anyone into thinking I have done more than I have. You can't compare Muso with a week of confirmed mafia to lynch. But thanks for the comparison. Now you've admitted knowing killing Muso was the right thing to do. @DP: Bending my words is not wise with me, last warning you'll get. He didn't have a read I disagreed with. He had a godawful read that didn't make sense. I don't care if you were to dumb to see why Mattchew had acted distinctly townie. He wasn't your best scumread and you weren't calling him scum for incredibly poor reasons. If we had a dt check on prplhz you wouldn't just say. Oh well, new guy lets disregard it. I am not bending your words. Get off your damn high horse. His 'god awful read that didn't make sense' is something you disagreed with. Reads are subjective. They are not objective. If they were they would be called mod confirmed alignments. Having a read that you cannot fathom is not necessarily alignment indicative. And just because you feel (correctly or incorrectly) that your read on matt was so much more valid than others does not mean those with a conflicting view are scum. If you think Prom is scum. There will be other things. And if there are I will view them on their merits. But a weird roleblock claim and a scum read on matt does not convince me.
I'm not on a high horse but I can see how you would think that having your own head showed down in the sand. When people are trying to accomplish anti-town behavior you don't assume they are idiots. Are you serious? You say you will judge people on their merits at the same time you conveniently disregard and diminish them.
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What a forsaken standstill. Can we get a votecount so I know who I need to yell at?
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On November 05 2012 21:45 drazak wrote:
Sorry, I was sick all weekend, what did you guys want me to do?
try voting...
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Honestly, why has half the thread not voted. There are are a number of people who could potentially be killed.
Promethelax
DarthPunk
Hopeless1der
mkfuba07
drazak
Release
If you want to avoid a last minute bandwagon and try to achieve some discussion you need to at the very least put in your votes and if you're town make sure you be here for the discussion.
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Are you serious, a no lynch? I'm forced to ask are you daft?
What exact information do you hope to have in 72 hours. Judging from how people are playing this game everybody will lurk the fucking shit out of those 72 hours and we will be right back here with the same candidates. What will we have gained then. We will have sacrificed one of our LIMITED opportunity's to rid ourselves of scummy people for absolutely nothing meaning we will leave more scapegoats for the mafia alive.
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Mylo. We're at Day-2. There is no mylo situation. Especially not if there is an sk.
Furthermore regarding No-Lynch. It's generally a bad idea to no-lynch with a few situational exceptions (none of which apply today)
Add to that.
Likely all our blues are dead/depleted.
We have a day-2 cop claim and his investigation result.
Only a scum would try to pull of a no-lynch today. You're not my strongest scumread but I will not hold this lightly against you.
As you should know I want to kill Prom, however I would also be okey with a DP lynch if you absolutely want to lynch into the lurkers. The reason being I know DP can play a decent town or at least act decent. His play this game is apathetic and reminds me of how he played as scum in LC where he have no goal other then to blend in the lurkers. But show me a better case and I will be all ears.
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On November 06 2012 05:46 DarthPunk wrote:Show nested quote +On November 06 2012 04:50 kushm4sta wrote:
Why the fuck are you talking about sk, thrawn etc. Prome why are you conjecturing about the viability of killing an sk?
find scummiest person. kill them.
Anyone else want to kill dp?
I don't understand people reading his filter and getting town reads. He is logical about shit, but always concerning perifery issues. He is not using his posts to find scum or push lynches.
He has been invisible.
He has been indecisive.
He has sheeped.
lynch dp I have not been Invisible. I am astounded I am being called a lurker by risk even though I have a larger filter than him. The fact of the matter is I am asleep Whilst you guys are around generally. Even now I had to get up early and set an alarm to be here before lynch. And the amount of content produced whilst I am away leaves me very little to work with when I am the only one in the thread. I have been staying up till past 1 am most nights to catxh people on US time. So I resent being called invisible whilst actually putting in effort to be around. I have not been indesicive. Quiet the opposite. I have very firm opinions about things. I want to lynch draz. I don't want to lynch prome. I wanted to lynch release and now I don't. Hardly indesicive. IN fact a quick read of my filter would put that 'claim' to rest. And I have not fucking sheeped. I made a case on draz which I feel is good. Hardly sheeping. I went against the prevailing sentiment of the thread and defended my strong town read. Not sheeping at all. It is almost if you just pulled a list of generic scummy terms out of your arse even though they did not apply to me. Also. I woke up early after going to bed late to be here for this deadline. So I resent people saying I have put little effort in. Anyway. I am here. My case on draz has largely been ignored. I am willing to consolidate and not willing to no lynch. I don;t want to lynch prome but could lynch anyone else.
Having the larger filter is as relevant as having the larger penis. You've done jack and are still apathetic.
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On November 06 2012 05:54 Acrofales wrote:Show nested quote +On November 06 2012 05:53 thrawn2112 wrote:
Acro how are you so sure there's an sk? The lack of a vig claim? Yes. And the improbability of a vig shooting Zealos.
Why, did you think zealos was town?
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On November 06 2012 06:00 Acrofales wrote:Show nested quote +On November 06 2012 05:56 risk.nuke wrote:On November 06 2012 05:54 Acrofales wrote:On November 06 2012 05:53 thrawn2112 wrote:
Acro how are you so sure there's an sk? The lack of a vig claim? Yes. And the improbability of a vig shooting Zealos. Why, did you think zealos was town? I didn't have a scumread on him. That is actually a giant towntell on Zealos, as I mentioned in my nightpost. I needed more to get him out of null, but was hardly surprised by him flipping town (although I was surprised by him being killed. All he had in his filter was a wish for Prome and Kush to die).
If thats your read on zealos why don't you think it was a mafia kp?
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On November 06 2012 06:05 Promethelax wrote:Show nested quote +On November 06 2012 06:03 risk.nuke wrote:On November 06 2012 06:00 Acrofales wrote:On November 06 2012 05:56 risk.nuke wrote:On November 06 2012 05:54 Acrofales wrote:On November 06 2012 05:53 thrawn2112 wrote:
Acro how are you so sure there's an sk? The lack of a vig claim? Yes. And the improbability of a vig shooting Zealos. Why, did you think zealos was town? I didn't have a scumread on him. That is actually a giant towntell on Zealos, as I mentioned in my nightpost. I needed more to get him out of null, but was hardly surprised by him flipping town (although I was surprised by him being killed. All he had in his filter was a wish for Prome and Kush to die). If thats your read on zealos why don't you think it was a mafia kp? He said that he does think it was Mafia KP. He thought that Matt was the SK.
Okey, must have missed that. Thanks and Apologies.
@acro: scum = mafia.
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On November 06 2012 06:10 Promethelax wrote:Show nested quote +On November 06 2012 06:08 risk.nuke wrote:On November 06 2012 06:05 Promethelax wrote:On November 06 2012 06:03 risk.nuke wrote:On November 06 2012 06:00 Acrofales wrote:On November 06 2012 05:56 risk.nuke wrote:On November 06 2012 05:54 Acrofales wrote:On November 06 2012 05:53 thrawn2112 wrote:
Acro how are you so sure there's an sk? The lack of a vig claim? Yes. And the improbability of a vig shooting Zealos. Why, did you think zealos was town? I didn't have a scumread on him. That is actually a giant towntell on Zealos, as I mentioned in my nightpost. I needed more to get him out of null, but was hardly surprised by him flipping town (although I was surprised by him being killed. All he had in his filter was a wish for Prome and Kush to die). If thats your read on zealos why don't you think it was a mafia kp? He said that he does think it was Mafia KP. He thought that Matt was the SK. Okey, must have missed that. Thanks and Apologies. @acro: scum = mafia. What are your thoughts on today's lynch? Where will your vote be and why?
Any of the list of candidates I provided earlier > No-Lynch.
But with the lack of pressence in the thread right now we're not looking like we can lynch anyone. We're 4 here right now.
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On November 06 2012 06:31 Promethelax wrote:Show nested quote +On November 06 2012 06:27 risk.nuke wrote:On November 06 2012 06:10 Promethelax wrote:On November 06 2012 06:08 risk.nuke wrote:On November 06 2012 06:05 Promethelax wrote:On November 06 2012 06:03 risk.nuke wrote:On November 06 2012 06:00 Acrofales wrote:On November 06 2012 05:56 risk.nuke wrote:On November 06 2012 05:54 Acrofales wrote:On November 06 2012 05:53 thrawn2112 wrote:
Acro how are you so sure there's an sk? The lack of a vig claim? Yes. And the improbability of a vig shooting Zealos. Why, did you think zealos was town? I didn't have a scumread on him. That is actually a giant towntell on Zealos, as I mentioned in my nightpost. I needed more to get him out of null, but was hardly surprised by him flipping town (although I was surprised by him being killed. All he had in his filter was a wish for Prome and Kush to die). If thats your read on zealos why don't you think it was a mafia kp? He said that he does think it was Mafia KP. He thought that Matt was the SK. Okey, must have missed that. Thanks and Apologies. @acro: scum = mafia. What are your thoughts on today's lynch? Where will your vote be and why? Any of the list of candidates I provided earlier > No-Lynch. But with the lack of pressence in the thread right now we're not looking like we can lynch anyone. We're 4 here right now. You (risk) Me (prome) Thrawn Acro DP Kush Draz that is enough to lynch. Don't give up now.
oh thrawn and kush is here and mkfuba just dropped in.
Now I'm just undecided who I want to kill. I face the problem of having warmed up to you so now I'm in a gut vs logic debate.
Considering killing DP or mkfuba or drazek. The two later just showed up suspiciously.
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