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OMG I feel so smart right now. Hapa, I so caught your crumb. I told you this:
On October 25 2012 05:10 Z-BosoN wrote:Show nested quote +On October 25 2012 04:48 Hapahauli wrote:
That's stupid. =/
Hurry up I'm bored. While you are at it read my case very carefully and tell me your thoughts.
So you would read this part:
Also, read this post as carefully as you possibly can and see if it doesn't give sense to it: + Show Spoiler +On October 22 2012 05:50 marvellosity wrote:Show nested quote +On October 22 2012 05:38 austinmcc wrote:On October 22 2012 05:32 marvellosity wrote:On October 22 2012 05:18 austinmcc wrote:
See what happens when I don't explain my full thought process in spoilers! nuh uh sweetie, this is what happens when people don't read and process what's been written properly. In my longish post having read the thread for the first time I said: On October 21 2012 21:03 marvellosity wrote:vaderseven - for lack of content, firstly. But more tellingly for the manner of his posts. He mixes in the cute little posts - "what do you want to know about mes" and the little fun facts about his rolling mafia. In between those posts, though, are sarcastic and patronising posts that are really easy for scum to make because it makes them look like they know what's going on without actually have to contribute anything. Hapa - did you get shot? which is basically what you were saying about the DP situation but worded slightly differently, and it's what I had taken from your posts. Maybe it was easier for me to understand as I'd read similar things from the DP affair as you had. Maaaaaaaaaaaaaaan. What do you make of keirathi's post in the middle of the DP stuff? I'm not exactly sure. A couple of posts later in his filter he explains he was just calling out bullshit and didn't read anything alignment-y from it. But then if that's the case, then the contributions were just pointless and not really contributions. I think Kei is playing pretty scummily - but what gives me pause is in his recent post, he just told town he doesn't really have any reads. Given he's under some pressure, it makes little sense for a scum Kei to do that. But then I find myself going around in stupid little wifom circles. What do you think? I don't have these little niggles about vader, so I'd quite like to hammer him. But we're still going places with discussion so I'm loathe to right now. Z-bo, are you sure that part of your read on Hapa isn't that you're putting him on a pedestal and placing unreasonable expectation from his posting? I'm getting that vibe from what you're posting about him.
Read the nested quotes, to the deepest level. I asked you if you got shot, why did you get the memo!! lol.
Now, why did I ask this, and why did I think you were boxer?
I had a suspicion you were boxer the moment you 180ed on me. Didn't really see your crumb, but it makes sense I guess. This also goes along with your bold play. This suspicion was strengthened 150 times when there were no nks and you suddenly started attacking marv, with a thought reasoning similar to mine.
You seemed so convinced, however, and I thought there might have been an additional reason as to why that is so.
So I decided to risk asking you by myself, implicitly in the thread, using the fact that you read carefully
. I have a town read on you, and I did not want scum to know you were boxer out loud.
This would give me even more reason to go after marv, if I knew that he had actually been shot, because Hapa's certainty would make sense. (Of course, you can think I'm scum and am saying this because I guessed he is boxer, and to that, I say fuck you why would I even be posting this, you halfwit).
Now, why does this information matter? Well, marv's sudden attack on Hapa would, as hapa has mentioned, make him look a lot more suspicious. I said earlier I didn't like marv's reaction, and this is why. This would help me further understand how hapa is so confident on marv, and help me establish solid ground on marv.
The only alternative I see to this is Hapa being scum and not killing during the night just so he could claim this, which is outlandish.
I feel pretty strong on marv, and I will hammer marv tomorrow, or even maybe the day after that, however. Why? Because I want to hear more from the second scum. I've concluded that the second scum likely right now does not have his vote on marv. And is pretty scared of manifesting himself. This marv shit has not yet calmed down and I want to hear more, both from him and from the rest of the town.
Marv has put quite some effort into not going down though and I'll give him a chance, as my read on him is not 100%, over these next two days.
Also, if someone is man enough to hammer him, go ahead and do so if you really find him to be scum. Would be very very interesting.
Well, that's about it. I encourage everyone to read a ton more on every single fucking filter before doing anything. I, myself, will do just that over the next few days.
Cheers
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Wow, I got mod-sniped. GG marv, and well done hapa.
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I also contradicted myself in the same post.
Hapa, I so caught your crumb
Is read as
Hapa, I so read your role
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Also, DarthPunk, dear, that leaves you. OMGUS me all you want - I'm coming for you.
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On October 25 2012 10:23 Hapahauli wrote:
Ugh so I have a fever and I need to take a break from the game tonight. This isn't too bad though - I'm far less certain about who scum #2 is and I want to see some other people post and contribute. I'll be fairly lurky tonight, but expect my thoughts near the deadline tomorrow.
@ Z-Bo
Wait how did you know I was boxer if you didn't catch my crumb? Seems kinda hard to read a powerless blue-role like that.
@ DP
To clarify - you know marv flipped scum right? Or are you still catching up?
Also, I don't understand how you think marv outed Z-Bo there. Just because he misrepresented his own actions doesn't mean that he outed someone else.
Did I not just explain?
I'm a tad drunk, maybe I'll make more sense tomorrow.
Also, it would explain two things: the nk. and your certainty on marv.
Fuck I'll go over this tomorrow I have to sleep.
Also, I'm the motherfuckingiest town there ever was and will be.
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I hammered v7 because of his play, that's about it, go away and leave me alone!!
Hapa you fucking nailed it day 2, I'm impressed.
BH was a fucking beast with the insta-posts, pretty insane. Very well hosted and thanks a lot for the invites.
I was going to go for drazak or iamp when I got back. I told iamp to go for darthpunk and said I was coming for him to see if DP was gonna flip the fuck out, I was starting to get suspicious of him, but he did himself OK.
drazak also started not posting and growing suspicious, I couldn't read that dude no matter what.
I decided Kei was town when he said he was 99% sure on me and backed off. Scum would have a much harder time of doing that if he was indeed going for the "easy case".
Have to go to school now, will make a more complete post when I get back.
GG guys, sorry for your first scum loss marv
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Haha I really have to reread what I post.
Most of the time as town I just write stuff and click on post. Even though I try to be concise and stuff, it doesn't always happen, and there are bound to be some contradictions and inconsistencies.
When I defended myself against Keir by saying "@that hapa thing", and making reference to the wrong situation, I actually DID notice after I posted that this was not the passage Kei was referring to. I began to make a post explaining that actually, but I figured "ah fuck that, no one is gonna notice". Then Hapa came along and @#%#!.
All my non-newbie games I was town. In every single one of those people really wanted to lynch me. Now I see that a townie's job is to both scumhunt AND look as townie as possible, so as to not draw unnecessary attention. Gonna focus on that for the next few days. It's much easier to look for scum when you don't have to keep defending yourself at every turn.
@austin, yay you finally had me figured out, hooray! Just keep saying I'm town all the time now, and you should be fine =p
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yea wtf lol, you were like the towniest townie there ever was, with the exception of me ofc
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Also, @v7
I voted you late at night. I was sleepy, saw that hapa had voted, and wanted to just end the day then and there, got pretty impatient
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Kei, I gave multiple reasons for voting v7. A couple of them were bad, but can't you see in context what I was trying to do? I tried adding new arguments to justify the lynch... I could have easily said "yea he's afk scum", but that's not what happened. For one it shows I actually reread both his and drazak's filter in that late post.
I don't know how you find that scummy.. you can at most find it bad, but if you ask me it shows more that I actually tried going more in-depth than not.
Also, I could have very very easily hammered him much earlier on, there was another time earlier in the day where he still had like four votes. Why would I firstly express doubt on his lynch, try to talk to people about it, etc. Only to hammer him in the way that I did later on? Seems silly to me, as scum... just look at how easily iamp voted him and got away with it (no one was gnawing at him). As a townie it shows that I'm invested and do not just want to casually vote for him.
Also, why the hell did I need to say anything? Is adding him in my top scum list out of nowhere not the same as adding him saying "yea I agree with his case and think he's scum". That's just what townies love hearing but really makes no difference...
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Well you'd have been much less suspicious for the wrong reasons I think. That's pretty much what both scum did. I tried not lynching v7 earlier on, insisting that we wait more.
If I were scum and wanted to lynch him, the last thing I'd do is feel like I have to over-justify. I also could have put down the 3rd or fourth vote when a couple of people unvoted him.
I dunno, I know it felt like I was over-justifying, but my timeline in regards to v7 doesn't make much sense to me being scummy. If I, as scum, felt that I didn't need to justify why I added him to my scum list, that same mentality would be enough to give him hsi 3rd or 4th vote.
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