Yea, if I don't get a fucking brilliant explanation within at the very most 15 minutes I'm going to consider both of you scum for the rest of the game.

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Sweden995 Posts

October 30 2012 00:20 GMT

#1383

EBWOP: Inig + Roco that is.

Alsn

Sweden995 Posts

October 30 2012 00:37 GMT

#1387

Seriously, two ninja vote switches minutes before deadline and no explanation whatsoever. I'm gonna go sleep before I break something.

Alsn

Sweden995 Posts

October 30 2012 12:58 GMT

#1392

@Nackh
Unless the scum team is me, Roco and Inig, how in the world can you conclude that I'm still scum? The only way I could actually vote Cheese after what happened that close to the lynch is if I for some reason did not believe that Inig and Roco were scum when they voted that way. The only reason for that would be if I as some kind of scumlord convinced them to do it in order to let myself not have to vote for Cheese. But wait, then Cheese would be town!

I have no idea how you can still insist that me and Cheese are both scum, no matter how I slice it I don't understand how someone could arrive at that conclusion. If anything, I'd like you to explain why, exactly, it logically makes sense that I'm scum and that the actions leading up to lynch was me somehow saving my supposed scum buddy Cheese.

@Everyone
This turn of events is absolutely ridiculous, if Inig/Roco aren't scum, then we're fucked regardless if they continue playing the same way we've seen them do for the last couple of days. This because if they aren't, there's no fucking way we are going to get 4 consolidated votes on a scum. Which means I think that we are forced to lynch one of them and hope that there truly were scum intentions behind their actions. If we then don't hit red, well then the game is over.

That being said, I'm still hoping for some amazing clue as to what the fuck just happened, but if Inig/Roco doesn't even want to fucking participate, then what can we do? We have to assume that they're scum.

Alsn

Sweden995 Posts

October 30 2012 13:02 GMT

#1393

Actually, about the only thing we actually have going for us now is the fact that Rad might still be SK haha. Even if he isn't, if nothing else at the very least scum doesn't know that.

Alsn

Sweden995 Posts

October 30 2012 13:50 GMT

#1395

Rad, while I agree that Dandel is probably overstating the inherent scumminess of what they did, there are scum motivations for such an act. It's possible that they reckoned that leaving their votes on Dandel would make them seem even more suspicious. Heck, even the idea that maybe they were afraid that we were going to switch to a potential scum Dandel, although that's kind of a stretch from where I'm standing.

The main issue is still that there's no explanation whatsoever. They were in the thread around the lynch, yet they didn't even bother to explain themselves. That to me either means that they are town and don't care at all about the game = we have lost, or they are scum and just can't find a good explanation = we have to lynch them.

Alsn

Sweden995 Posts

October 30 2012 13:55 GMT

#1396

Also, I'd like to point out that there were some movement towards Cheese. I was getting really worried myself leading up to the lynch that Djod was actually telling the truth so it wouldn't surprise me if scum thought that people would actually believe him. What I don't understand however is if they were worried that we would lynch Cheese, why a supposed Inig/Roco/Cheese scum team would then vote for Cheese.

Maybe an elaborate double bluff? I don't know but every reason I can think of ends up being quite a long shot.

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Sweden995 Posts

October 30 2012 13:58 GMT

#1398

What I mean by movement towards Cheese, both Djod and Nackh had votes on Cheese and you, me and Dandel were discussing it(albeit very wishy washily). If Nackh is town and supposing Cheese is scum, having 2 townies on him and from their point of view a majority of remaining townies discussing the possibility it's possible that they felt they needed to do something about it.

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Sweden995 Posts

October 30 2012 14:01 GMT

#1399

Yea, exactly. I think at this point even though I still believe there's a possibility that you're scum Dandel, I think I'm pretty much forced to trust you at this point. So if you, me and Rad all figure out a lynch target that we can get behind, we just have to hope that remaining townies go for it too. Cause even if we mislynch, if all 4 town don't consolidate on the same target we don't even have the chance of being right.

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Sweden995 Posts

October 30 2012 14:01 GMT

#1400

Meh, I just realised that one of us will probably die tonight, so that doesn't even work.

This shit is depressing.

Alsn

Sweden995 Posts

October 30 2012 14:49 GMT

#1402

My point is, what choice do I have? Mistrust everyone except you?

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Sweden995 Posts

October 30 2012 14:51 GMT

#1403

My point is, I do mistrust everyone, but what use is there in doing that? We are in lylo and two players(or three if we count nackh) are complete enigmas and could be either scum or town. With that in mind, I don't even have the option of trying to find certain scum among the rest of the players, because it's still possible that those three enigmas are the scum.

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Sweden995 Posts

October 30 2012 14:54 GMT

#1404

Look, we have almost three days so I'm not saying that there's no way we won't find anything useful before lynch but that's just how I feel at this point. I agree it's not very useful yet I'm feely pretty powerless right now due to having the feeling that I'm forced to try and push a lynch on either Inig or Roco, either of which could just be playing a piss poor town game rather than a scum game.