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On January 06 2013 09:48 Keirathi wrote:Show nested quote +On January 06 2013 09:46 Palmar wrote:On January 06 2013 09:42 Keirathi wrote:On January 06 2013 09:36 Palmar wrote:
By the way, I'm way behind, but if keirathi claimed the shot on tube he's very likely town. Lets ignore the shot on me, and you give an opinion on me other than that? I replaced in for Adam well before the end of the day yesterday (I was pushing AGAINST the marv lynch that you were pushing so hard for). And then during the night you said you wanted Adam to be our lynch for today. I forgot you replaced, someone correctly pointed that out. I don't quite associate your posts with Adam's as of now as I haven't read it through. Adam looked very bad with his one shitty mud-slinging multi-target post. I haven' read your contributions at all though. I don't see any reason to doubt your claim to the shot and it's exactly what Vigilantes are meant to be doing, it's a good shot. So I don't intend to use my time to worry too much about your alignment, which is nice. Yes, but I very much need to worry about yours. You were very, very wrong about marv and very stubborn that you were right. I can't help but be reminded of Rock Band.
I'm not too worried about you worrying about mine. I don't need to prove I'm innocent for another what... 72 hours? Jackal is getting owned today. It actually kinda suits me well that some townies suspect I'm mafia, makes it less likely I will be shot before I can make sense of this mess.
And yeah day 1 is on me, I honestly thought marv was scum, but I'd like to think there is a very easy to spot difference in my approach to the marv lynch this game and in rockband.
If not, I'm better at playing scum than I thought ^^
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On January 06 2013 22:38 Promethelax wrote:
Right. Did you read YAN? Stutters had baggage too.
Seriously though, you just came out of Hero where Palmar explained how to find scum Palmar. It is very simple: when Palmar hits green instead of red Palmar is scum.
Who got the check on Jackal that makes him confirmed scum? I assume WBG from the flips but some confirmation would be cool.
Can you give me a two second claim run down? I know Keir said he shot tube and Imp mason'd Palmar. Besides that I am in the dark.
I know I've basically made sure I will die at some point, but I want everyone to know and read that Promethelax is pushing this idea.
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I'll have time tomorrow, not so much tonight, which is fine, since I cannot die until tomorrow anyway.
I will explain everything I've done this game and how I would suggest town proceeds.
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Basically when I get cocky I say that if I lynch townies I should be lynched
But meh, I was just wrong about Marv. The bc thing is irrelevant and so is Adam (who just didn't play).
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I quickly skimmed foolishness's contributions. I very much agree on his thoughts on Cheesecake. I would also support a lynch on MZ and I have serious concerns about VE.
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Also, I'm requesting that if people really want me dead that I'll be lynched and not shot, because I would like to engage in that conversation. I never go down quietly as town and making people work for my lynch will help immensely with the discussion on the day that will happen.
This is basically a request to hatters and vigis to leave me alone. Go after people who will never contribute to the game. Use your imagination. But I promise you, any bomb or shot on me is taking away from town what could be one of the most productive mislynch days ever.
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On January 07 2013 08:20 Foolishness wrote:Show nested quote +On January 07 2013 08:09 Palmar wrote:
I quickly skimmed foolishness's contributions. I very much agree on his thoughts on Cheesecake. I would also support a lynch on MZ and I have serious concerns about VE. What's wrong with VE?
Almost every game VE doesn't shine green like a bright beacon in an endless night of scum, he has been scum.
Unless he did something that was impressive and town-VE like today, remember I'm way behind as I've not had much time to play this weekend, I think he could very likely be scum.
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On January 07 2013 17:27 Clarity_nl wrote:
I still want Palmar lynched, but since we'll drop mafia kp down to two if we lynch scum tomorrow it's probably best to go with cheese, and figure out wtf is going on with mz.
Knowing I am town, this post is almost impossible to write as scum I think. Clarity looks pretty good.
If he's scum, it's very difficult to imagine Clarity being thorough enough to try to swing the lynch from one townie to another in an attempt to somehow gain credit.
The only possible explanation where Clarity is scum, is if CC is scum too and this is a bus. That is certainly possible, especially since I've never felt as good about Clarity as I felt in the last game we played town together, but I see no reason to chase that scenario when we have plenty of options left.
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On January 07 2013 20:21 Lazermonkey wrote:
How do you feel about CC, Palmar?
Somewhat good based on day 1. I haven't managed to read his contributions today.
I'm also very interested in having a look at Prom at some time today. Need to check how much sense he's making.
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On January 07 2013 21:05 Clarity_nl wrote:Show nested quote +On January 07 2013 20:19 Palmar wrote:On January 07 2013 17:27 Clarity_nl wrote:
I still want Palmar lynched, but since we'll drop mafia kp down to two if we lynch scum tomorrow it's probably best to go with cheese, and figure out wtf is going on with mz. Knowing I am town, this post is almost impossible to write as scum I think. Clarity looks pretty good. If he's scum, it's very difficult to imagine Clarity being thorough enough to try to swing the lynch from one townie to another in an attempt to somehow gain credit. The only possible explanation where Clarity is scum, is if CC is scum too and this is a bus. That is certainly possible, especially since I've never felt as good about Clarity as I felt in the last game we played town together, but I see no reason to chase that scenario when we have plenty of options left. Palmar, are you calling mz town? Could you give some reasoning if that is the case?
My comment is focused on CC. Just like I said in my spreadsheet it is very likely that MZ is scum, but again, I'm just starting to catch up. The reasons given in the spreadsheet still stand.
I'm saying that should CC flip town, you're almost certainly not scum. If he flips scum, there is an outside possibility of a bus, but still not enough to pursue that idea.
It's funny how sometimes the game works like that, it's very hard to be wrong in a certain way, so you look better as town if you lynch town than scum.
But it's all irrelevant for now, I don't think you're even in the top 5 candidates list. I was just pointing this out.
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On January 07 2013 21:05 Palmar wrote:Show nested quote +On January 07 2013 20:21 Lazermonkey wrote:
How do you feel about CC, Palmar? Somewhat good based on day 1. I haven't managed to read his contributions today. I'm also very interested in having a look at Prom at some time today. Need to check how much sense he's making.
By "somewhat good" I mean "somewhat good as a lynch".
Not saying he looks townie.
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On January 07 2013 21:15 Clarity_nl wrote:
It is a weird thing to point out that I'll be town if cheese flips town, not because it doesn't make sense in context with my post that you quoted, but because you seem to think cheese is a "somewhat good lynch", so it's a weird angle to approach me from.
You then follow by saying if cheese is scum it's possible I'm scum, but... not likely? You believe cheese is scum though....
Why did you feel the need to give me a townread in-thread to begin with?
Because I expect to die at some point, I'm not even trying to stop it at the moment, although I will demand a lot of anyone trying to lynch me. So my idea of contributing to a game where I've had some bad reads is to point out any observations I might have about the game. Hopefully when I flip someone will have a look through my filter if only to gain ideas.
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On January 08 2013 00:58 Promethelax wrote:
I'd like to get palmar up for lynch tomorrow. If he is town he is right, we'll have one hell of an interesting day that we'll gain a ton from and, once again if he is town, I wouldn't be that surprised if he managed to evade the lynch.
I'm all for it.
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Let's make a scummy list with no explanations:
Lazermonkey
yamato77
Palmar
Vivax
Clarity_nl
iamperfection
[UoN]Sentinel
Foolishness
grush57
Promethelax
supersoft
froggynoddy
Toadesstern
Chezinu
thrawn2112
Djodref
debears
hopeless1der
kushm4sta
VisceraEyes
HiroPro
Meapak_Ziphh
Mr. Cheesecake
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On January 08 2013 02:17 VisceraEyes wrote:
Well, in that case I'll vote for someone else OUT OF SPITE!
Sorry bro.
hey I'm terrible this game, why aren't you carrying it?
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On January 08 2013 02:24 Promethelax wrote:
It is disgusting that I can't get a town read on you for agreeing with 95% of my reads Palmar. Why you gotta be so good?
VE: Dibbers. Gogogo.
here's a hint, I'm actually terrible at playing scum.
hence, I was just wrong on day 1. Although getting marv hella mad was funny.
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On January 08 2013 02:49 Promethelax wrote:
So, since you were wrong d1 do you think it is unfair for one to read you as scum? You have said very recently that you should be judged through your actions and not your reads.
I don't think it's unfair to take it into account but it cannot be the only thing you look at. I've been wrong on day 1 before. I do however probably have an unusually high chance of hitting scum on day 1, so it certainly should raise some alarms. My day 1 play is just about the only thing I do very well in mafia, and basically the reason I am considered a good player.
What you really have to look at is how I carry myself to the conclusions I reach.
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On January 09 2013 17:49 supersoft wrote:
Toadesstern and Palmar are posting in other threads... i wonder why they don't comment on the foolishness/cheesecake/debears discussion
Cause I'm not paying that much attention to this game honestly.
I clearly was wrong a lot, so not going to come in here yelling people should do as I say.
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