Meapak the OpportunistI said it like 5 minutes before deadline, but my memory of Bang Bang Mafia is Meapak toying with my emotions over gonzaw, who I thought was scum but was actually town.
Meapak's play this game has been marked with opportunism. He jumped from side to side with the me vs Palmar thing, thusly:
Palmar is town!On January 03 2013 07:43 Meapak_Ziphh wrote:
This just in, palmar most likely town.
More in a few hours when I get home.
On January 03 2013 12:22 Meapak_Ziphh wrote:Show nested quote +On January 03 2013 12:18 Hopeless1der wrote:On January 03 2013 07:43 Meapak_Ziphh wrote:
This just in, palmar most likely town.
More in a few hours when I get home.
What happened to this?
nothing, I'm willing to kill tunkeg, that's more.
Palmar still town although supersoft is right that I maybe shouldn't have pointed it out. In my defense, if I was scum I could have just told my teammates and let the thread fight it out.
answer me on palmar, marv:
On January 04 2013 05:38 Meapak_Ziphh wrote:
Hey marv, I read your filter and your posting is literally as content free as mine has been thus far. I'm not even joking, if you don't believe me reread his filter. Marv I want at least one mediocre post from you where you actually explain why Palmar needs to die.
Mediocre marv, I'm not asking for a lot here.
I have to go pick my sister up, I'll be back in like 45 minutes.
On January 04 2013 06:35 Meapak_Ziphh wrote:
So many massive epeenz over compensating lol.
Marv answer me.
On January 04 2013 08:19 Meapak_Ziphh wrote:Show nested quote +On January 04 2013 07:45 marvellosity wrote:On January 04 2013 07:44 iamperfection wrote:
good
anyways i disagree ve i think has toad has been overall active and has commented on a lot of the comings and goings of the thread. He is not a good lynch
toad has commented on almost nothing of value.
Look at the pot and the kettle. Pull your head out and answer my earlier question. And no, "read my filter" is not a suitable response.
So he calls Palmar town straight off the bat, when Palmar had
already been trolling, ya. The best bit is that he is suspicious of me first and foremost, trying to prod me or something. So Palmar town, marvellosity bad, nice.
Anyways, a few votes start going on Palmar, led by me, Toad, etc. Palmar is playing exactly the same as before, and yet...
Palmar is scum! :oOn January 04 2013 10:30 Meapak_Ziphh wrote:
hey guys wanna just kill palmar for claiming scum?
I mean I was fine with him up until this page but since he's so adamant that he's scum then let's just help him to exit the game at the earliest opportunity.
On January 04 2013 10:51 Meapak_Ziphh wrote:Show nested quote +On January 04 2013 10:38 supersoft wrote:On January 04 2013 10:30 Meapak_Ziphh wrote:
hey guys wanna just kill palmar for claiming scum?
I mean I was fine with him up until this page but since he's so adamant that he's scum then let's just help him to exit the game at the earliest opportunity.
This second sentence doesnt say you now think he's scum right?
Yeah. It looks like he's trying a "hide in plain sight" sort of thing. I thought in the beginning he was doing his usual trolling to get discussion started (there's actually a game where he describes exactly what he does as town I just forget which one). Basically it goes something along the lines of propose something so stupid it's just begging for people to jump on it for free town cred and then tear the ones apart who use that as a crutch to look protown. That's what I assumed he was trying here but now I'm thinking he's just acting as scummy as possible on the assumption that everyone will just assume he's trolling and ignore him. There is zero reason for town to do that so occam's razor says if Palmar says he's scum, he's scum.
On January 04 2013 19:12 Meapak_Ziphh wrote:Show nested quote +On January 04 2013 19:08 wherebugsgo wrote:On January 04 2013 18:28 Palmar wrote:On January 04 2013 17:38 wherebugsgo wrote:On January 04 2013 17:37 Palmar wrote:
I don't really think Cheesecake is the most productive lynch today. It is a good lynch but I have other ideas. I will elaborate later.
logs, bitch
No, a great town player once told me that keeping my reads private is apparently good town play, so let's do that.
cool, you're dying then.
Listen guys, Palmar has no logs. He's scum.
I'm down with this happening.
A huge focus in the beginning should be about demonstrating your innocence and Palmar is flat out not doing that, if he wants to trollishly call himself scum I'd have let him get away with that assuming that he was planning on making something useful out of the discussion he started with his "lynch wbg" nonsense. Since he's declined to do that and instead continued to troll I'm ready to get rid of him.
Now the thing is, having thought I was scummy, that I had a contentless filter, that I was useless, basically I was just a complete baddie, now he fully agrees with me on Palmar, making this post AFTER I make my quite good post about my IRC chats with Palmar. So he's gone from marv scumread Palmar townread to marv townread Palmar scumread even though nothing much has happened. Well, what has happened is that at that point the sentiment of the thread was AGAINST Palmar, before the release of his logs and spreadsheet. Again I would add that MZ went from adamant Palmar was town early, to adamant he's scum,
when Palmar's play had not changed. Just this totally random complete 180.
Palmar is town, marv is scum! :OOOOn January 04 2013 21:03 Meapak_Ziphh wrote:
Part of me thinks this is you trying to make sure you don't get lynched as scum now that your bluff has been called but a bigger part of me says there's bigger fish to fry and you actually are town like I originally thought.
Oh and fyi you have called me bad/terrible/awful/stupid/some other adjective that implies idiocy in almost every game I've played with you. idk what game it was from but my personal favorite was "oh that's MZ, I wondered who was trying to break the world record for retard."
lol holy shit, the final flip flop! Now the sentiment of the thread, remember, has gone pro-Palmar. The spreadsheet, the logs, the case on marv etc. So now obviously Meapak wants to kill marv after all.
Meapak has consistently flipflopped on his opinion of Palmar and I, basically going with teh sentiment of the thread. He never has his own opinions, he's only sheeping town mentality.
Bonus - Tunkeg!Kinda amidst all of this, there's a side-story on Tunkeg. Anyways, it starts:
On January 03 2013 12:16 Meapak_Ziphh wrote:
Let's kill tunkeg.
So Tunkeg is scum, right? Where's the case?
On January 04 2013 09:56 Meapak_Ziphh wrote:Show nested quote +On January 04 2013 09:23 debears wrote:On January 04 2013 09:07 marvellosity wrote:
debears, I am verily looking forward to this post on Tunkeg.
honestly I'm not.....Already have to read this damn thread :/
It's not a very hard case which is the only thing that stopped me from writing it. It felt too easy.
It's not a very hard case which is the only thing that stopped him writing it, it's too easy. What does that mean? See, to most of the players in the game, it meant that people thought Tunkeg was just being his usual belligerent townie self, and they didn't think he was scum.
But Meapak called him scum. Which means Meapak didn't think this. So why exactly didn't he make his case? What has too easy got to do with it if he thinks he's scum?
On January 04 2013 17:43 Meapak_Ziphh wrote:Show nested quote +On January 04 2013 17:35 yamato77 wrote:
Tunkeg is playing anti town but his actual alignment is yet to be revealed. Apparently he's a dumbass all the time.
CC I can almost get behind but I'm not sure how much seriously I take the arguments for his lynch. He's been useless, sure, but he hasn't exactly done so in a scummy way.
wait so playing anti town doesn't reveal his alignment or at least in anyway give you reason to question him?
Damn that's a new one, I've only been gone for like 6 months and the meta has changed that much?
Here Meapak is pressuring yamato for not putting pressure on Tunkeg for playing anti-town. But what has Meapak done? He called Tunkeg scum and refused to make a case on him.
Thereby not putting any pressure on Tunkeg himself. Why didn't he? Why didn't he pressure someone he called scum, why is he telling someone else off for not doing so?
I present you with
Meapak_Ziph.
EPT
