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Toadesstern
Profile Blog Joined October 2008
Germany16350 Posts
January 04 2013 21:22 GMT
#1808
On January 05 2013 06:19 Keirathi wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 05 2013 06:12 Toadesstern wrote:
Marv never did a case on Palmar. Marv pressure voted Palmar, rightfully so, It has nothing to do with Marv being wrong or right on Palmar though.

Does this not count as a case?

Show nested quote +
On January 04 2013 10:31 marvellosity wrote:
I'm still pretty happy with my vote on Palmar, for reasons already given. There's nothing in what Palmar has done so far that suggests in the slightest that he gives a shit for town, and he should be one of the town leaders.

This is further exacerbated by a conversation I had with him on IRC a few days ago. We were just talking about his play a little, and I'd told him that a weakness in his play was that he often got caught up in thinking what a town player "should" do, and being wrong as being a scumtell. Shortly after he wrote this in a QT:

"Palmar
12-31-2012
08:39 PM ET (US)

I have a weakness in my game where I just think everyone that doesn't agree with me when I'm right is scum, and everyone who does is town. There is absolutely no reason for me to think Bugs is scum, only the fact he's been wrong all game long. That doesn't make him scum though."

And twice in this conversation on IRC, related to this, he said that Day 1 was his strongest day, because he's not encumbered with flips and this sense of right and wrong.

So his manner of play today makes this even more galling. This is supposedly his strongest day as town by some margin, and he's decided to use it by claiming scum 3 times, generally trolling, giving no reads, or at least no explanation for his reads. As far as I can see, he's banking on people viewing his retarded play as town somehow, even though there is literally nothing townie about it. Recently in his townplay he has been quite happy to tell people why he finds certain people town, and then when he decides someone is scummy, he gives good reasons why. Just none of it this game.

No I don't think so. Imo it's just a supplement to his "fuck this shit, let's lynch Palmar" statement which I consider a strong pressure vote. Like a combination of policy + pressure.
<Elem> >toad in charge of judging lewdness <Elem> how bad can it be <Elem> also wew, that is actually p lewd.
Toadesstern
Profile Blog Joined October 2008
Germany16350 Posts
January 04 2013 21:26 GMT
#1822
On January 05 2013 06:20 marvellosity wrote:
Anyway, I just stopped playing a board game with my other half's family. As far as I can see all the votes are still on me, so I'm gonna claim, mostly just so I can laugh at Palmar for lynching the uncounterclaimed cop as the first lynch of 2013.

I am ]Mandy, the Slow Cop


god you're making it hard for me... don't really want to lynch into claimed cops but then again you say you're a slow cop and not a Slow Alignment Cop like it says in the OP.

But who knows, it's kurumi hosting...
<Elem> >toad in charge of judging lewdness <Elem> how bad can it be <Elem> also wew, that is actually p lewd.
Toadesstern
Profile Blog Joined October 2008
Germany16350 Posts
January 04 2013 21:32 GMT
#1845
On January 05 2013 06:29 Hopeless1der wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 05 2013 06:27 Keirathi wrote:
bugs, your reaction to the claim is troubling.

On December 02 2012 07:27 wherebugsgo wrote:
On December 02 2012 06:52 marvellosity wrote:
On December 02 2012 06:52 Blazinghand wrote:
yeah a role PM would be nice marv

I do think Ace makes a reasonable case for why Marv's claim is bad and should be punished, but as a rule lynching blue claims D1 is bad. Sorry Ace.


You are Jamie Hyneman. Your love of the scientific method makes it possible for you to find out how shit works. You've also got a cool collection of cameras and stuff, that you can totally use to track people. (Detective)


LOL

what kind of shit cop claims day 1?

Of all people marv would know that this is a terrible idea as town. So, guess what?

HE'S NOT TOWN!


Paranoia, as town, with a town amrv claiming cop.

Quite a different reaction here :o

bugs is scum btw

finally someone who agrees with my bugs lynch.

Though I've got to say the timing of that claim really was odd and I agree with Yamato. I don't think town marv would claim 30 minutes prior to deadline leaving us in total chaos. Town marv would have at least claimed something like.... idk, 2 hours prior so we got time to get our shit together?
This claim does nothing but increase paranoia everywhere and we don't have enough time to figure stuff out.
<Elem> >toad in charge of judging lewdness <Elem> how bad can it be <Elem> also wew, that is actually p lewd.
Toadesstern
Profile Blog Joined October 2008
Germany16350 Posts
January 04 2013 21:34 GMT
#1855
On January 05 2013 06:34 grush57 wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 05 2013 06:33 marvellosity wrote:
On January 05 2013 06:32 Toadesstern wrote:
On January 05 2013 06:29 Hopeless1der wrote:
On January 05 2013 06:27 Keirathi wrote:
bugs, your reaction to the claim is troubling.

On December 02 2012 07:27 wherebugsgo wrote:
On December 02 2012 06:52 marvellosity wrote:
On December 02 2012 06:52 Blazinghand wrote:
yeah a role PM would be nice marv

I do think Ace makes a reasonable case for why Marv's claim is bad and should be punished, but as a rule lynching blue claims D1 is bad. Sorry Ace.


You are Jamie Hyneman. Your love of the scientific method makes it possible for you to find out how shit works. You've also got a cool collection of cameras and stuff, that you can totally use to track people. (Detective)


LOL

what kind of shit cop claims day 1?

Of all people marv would know that this is a terrible idea as town. So, guess what?

HE'S NOT TOWN!


Paranoia, as town, with a town amrv claiming cop.

Quite a different reaction here :o

bugs is scum btw

finally someone who agrees with my bugs lynch.

Though I've got to say the timing of that claim really was odd and I agree with Yamato. I don't think town marv would claim 30 minutes prior to deadline leaving us in total chaos. Town marv would have at least claimed something like.... idk, 2 hours prior so we got time to get our shit together?
This claim does nothing but increase paranoia everywhere and we don't have enough time to figure stuff out.


yes, but unfortunately i'm not going to tell my boyfriend's mother to fuck off when she wants to play a game.

R u gay or a girl?

he is the sweetest little girl on this planet
<Elem> >toad in charge of judging lewdness <Elem> how bad can it be <Elem> also wew, that is actually p lewd.
Toadesstern
Profile Blog Joined October 2008
Germany16350 Posts
January 04 2013 21:39 GMT
#1860
On January 05 2013 06:38 Djodref wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 05 2013 06:31 marvellosity wrote:
On January 05 2013 06:31 Djodref wrote:
I don't think marv is a good lynch for today.
Him pushing Palmar was legit, from a town point of view, because Palmar started to look town quite late. Also I think it's not fair to judge him in comparison with his performance in Rockband Mini Mafia. Also I don't disagree with much he has been saying and him being suspicious of Clarity at some point is not alignment indicative, because Clarity is not playing his usual town game (even if I'm buying his excuse as being sick for the moment).

I don't think the chances for him to be mafia are high enough to justify a lynch on him, and it would be a shame to mislynch him if he is town.

So I'm going to support the counter-bandwagon, and on top of that I think that BC lynch is a good lynch in itself
+ Show Spoiler +

On January 05 2013 02:05 BloodyC0bbler wrote:
I dont have a ton of time right now and given that most of it was spent catching up on the thread all I can say is what the fuck?

Palmar is off the hook given how rampant his bullshit was all day because he posted some logs and a list of reads that all looks seems hastily put together and shit. He then makes his only case of the game against a player his own notes say specifically he would like to hold off on pursuing then suddenly his outlook changes while marv does the same shit palmar has been doing except Marv was more useful through the entire day.

People need to realize that Palmar only contributed because he was harassed into doing so and has done the bare minimum since. Seriously people Marv may not have scum hunted but he was actively harassing people or pushing people to generate discussion.

##vote palmar

I honestly dont get you people and the next person to suggest lynching me on inactivity should go back and read the first thing I said in this game after signing up

I really don't like this post from BC, as in 'I don't like this post because it serves mafia interest'.
First of all, Palmar is not going to get lynched today. Moreover, Palmar stopped trolling and was actually working on this game while masoning with Iamp. Also him pushing his marv's lynch like this makes him town in my eyes, and I think that BC should be able to see this as well.
Secondly, regardless of marv alignment, I see scum motivation for this post. Defending marv and discrediting Palmar if marv is scum is good, but doing it when both of them are town is even better, because you are setting things up for lynching Palmar after marv. His post also allows him to avoid contributing by spending time in a useless tunnel.

##Vote BC



where have you been?


Working and sleeping mostly. Also I had to get back to my korean life ^^
Things at my job went crazy when I was in holidays in France, and Koreans don't take work lightly. Christmas and New Year are not real holidays over there so I had to get back all thing I was late on when I was not here while being jet-lagged. I went directly to sleep when I came back from work last night. I have my week-end right now though

Do you have any breadcrumb by the way ?

it's d1... on top of that he's a SLOWcop... I doubt he has breadcrumbs anywhere this early :p
<Elem> >toad in charge of judging lewdness <Elem> how bad can it be <Elem> also wew, that is actually p lewd.
Toadesstern
Profile Blog Joined October 2008
Germany16350 Posts
January 04 2013 21:43 GMT
#1868
On January 05 2013 06:41 grush57 wrote:
Wait, Marv would of breadcrumbed. This is like last game.
Is he scum?
Does he breadcrumb early in his meta? Or at all?

you don't breadcrumb your role, you breadcrumb your checks.
Again, it's d1 and he's a SLOWcop... according to what he's saying.
<Elem> >toad in charge of judging lewdness <Elem> how bad can it be <Elem> also wew, that is actually p lewd.
Toadesstern
Profile Blog Joined October 2008
Germany16350 Posts
January 04 2013 21:48 GMT
#1878
Actually, there's no MAFIA Slowcop in the game according to the OP.

If a rolecop checks a Slowcop will he get back "Slowcop" ? As in, is it possible to distinguish that from other normal cops?

Because if it is, fuck this lynch and lynch hopeless / BC and let Marv get checked. There's bound to be a rolecop somewhere with this fancy of a set-up.
<Elem> >toad in charge of judging lewdness <Elem> how bad can it be <Elem> also wew, that is actually p lewd.
Toadesstern
Profile Blog Joined October 2008
Germany16350 Posts
January 04 2013 21:49 GMT
#1883
On January 05 2013 06:48 Toadesstern wrote:
Actually, there's no MAFIA Slowcop in the game according to the OP.

If a rolecop checks a Slowcop will he get back "Slowcop" ? As in, is it possible to distinguish that from other normal cops?

Because if it is, fuck this lynch and lynch hopeless / BC and let Marv get checked. There's bound to be a rolecop somewhere with this fancy of a set-up.

well, maybe that's what Marv is hoping for. Rolecop is the strongest cop in this set-up for town, so maybe he wants someone outed when he consideres himself dead....
<Elem> >toad in charge of judging lewdness <Elem> how bad can it be <Elem> also wew, that is actually p lewd.
Toadesstern
Profile Blog Joined October 2008
Germany16350 Posts
January 04 2013 21:51 GMT
#1888
On January 05 2013 06:49 Palmar wrote:
you're all idiots.

On January 05 2013 06:50 Kurumi wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 05 2013 06:48 Toadesstern wrote:
Actually, there's no MAFIA Slowcop in the game according to the OP.

If a rolecop checks a Slowcop will he get back "Slowcop" ? As in, is it possible to distinguish that from other normal cops?

Because if it is, fuck this lynch and lynch hopeless / BC and let Marv get checked. There's bound to be a rolecop somewhere with this fancy of a set-up.

Slow Alignment Cop role returns ([name if present] the) Slow Alignment Cop


Dude there's no way for marv to fake this if he's mafia.
Mafia only has dayrolecop and night rolecop, but no slowrolecop.
<Elem> >toad in charge of judging lewdness <Elem> how bad can it be <Elem> also wew, that is actually p lewd.
Toadesstern
Profile Blog Joined October 2008
Germany16350 Posts
January 04 2013 21:52 GMT
#1893
oh wait, they got GF's screw everything I just said.
<Elem> >toad in charge of judging lewdness <Elem> how bad can it be <Elem> also wew, that is actually p lewd.
Toadesstern
Profile Blog Joined October 2008
Germany16350 Posts
January 04 2013 21:54 GMT
#1906
On January 05 2013 06:52 marvellosity wrote:
guys, stop

we should lynch Meapak. I just got home and clicked on his filter quickly because i thought of something.

Apart from being absolutely useless, he has been very opportunistic - he attacked me at the start, then he agreed with me on Palmar and went over to Palmar, and then he liekd Palmar's case on me and went over to marv.

this totally reminds me of bang bang mafia when i thought gonzaw was scum and he was encouraging me then not encouraging me then encouraging me to shoot him depending on what the thread thought.

MZ lhynch?


what the actual fuck? LYNCH MARV
<Elem> >toad in charge of judging lewdness <Elem> how bad can it be <Elem> also wew, that is actually p lewd.
Toadesstern
Profile Blog Joined October 2008
Germany16350 Posts
January 04 2013 21:55 GMT
#1911
On January 05 2013 06:54 marvellosity wrote:
##Unvote
##Vote: Meapak_ziph

we've got 5 minutes left and you want us to swtich everything?
What's wrong with you?
<Elem> >toad in charge of judging lewdness <Elem> how bad can it be <Elem> also wew, that is actually p lewd.
Toadesstern
Profile Blog Joined October 2008
Germany16350 Posts
January 04 2013 21:56 GMT
#1916
On January 05 2013 06:55 Promethelax wrote:
Toad, explain.

On January 05 2013 06:55 Toadesstern wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 05 2013 06:54 marvellosity wrote:
##Unvote
##Vote: Meapak_ziph

we've got 5 minutes left and you want us to swtich everything?
What's wrong with you?

<Elem> >toad in charge of judging lewdness <Elem> how bad can it be <Elem> also wew, that is actually p lewd.
Toadesstern
Profile Blog Joined October 2008
Germany16350 Posts
January 04 2013 22:04 GMT
#1964
so you're basicly saying you are a town daycop? Well the OP doesn't say it has to be night-COP at all and it could be variations...

@foolishness: Good job voting 1 minute after the deadline though
<Elem> >toad in charge of judging lewdness <Elem> how bad can it be <Elem> also wew, that is actually p lewd.
Toadesstern
Profile Blog Joined October 2008
Germany16350 Posts
January 04 2013 22:19 GMT
#1992
On January 05 2013 07:18 Lazermonkey wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 05 2013 07:17 Keirathi wrote:
On January 05 2013 07:16 Lazermonkey wrote:
: /.

So what do we learn from this? We should've killed Hopeless...

What we learn is that Palmar is scum.
Herp? How?

because the flipped cop said he checked him as goon?
<Elem> >toad in charge of judging lewdness <Elem> how bad can it be <Elem> also wew, that is actually p lewd.
Toadesstern
Profile Blog Joined October 2008
Germany16350 Posts
January 04 2013 22:27 GMT
#2005
now I'm confused
<Elem> >toad in charge of judging lewdness <Elem> how bad can it be <Elem> also wew, that is actually p lewd.
Toadesstern
Profile Blog Joined October 2008
Germany16350 Posts
January 04 2013 23:05 GMT
#2042
On January 05 2013 08:02 marvellosity wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 05 2013 07:59 wherebugsgo wrote:
On January 05 2013 07:58 VisceraEyes wrote:
Yes, I'm down with killing Meapak. 100%


oh look, another opportunist


why don't ya, i dunno, comment on my superawesome case rather than VE agreeing with something superawesome?

I'm going out on a limb here but I don't think VE actually read anything of your awesomeness:

On January 05 2013 07:56 marvellosity wrote:
+ Show Spoiler [HERE BE TEXT] +
Meapak the Opportunist

I said it like 5 minutes before deadline, but my memory of Bang Bang Mafia is Meapak toying with my emotions over gonzaw, who I thought was scum but was actually town.

Meapak's play this game has been marked with opportunism. He jumped from side to side with the me vs Palmar thing, thusly:

Palmar is town!

On January 03 2013 07:43 Meapak_Ziphh wrote:
This just in, palmar most likely town.

More in a few hours when I get home.


On January 03 2013 12:22 Meapak_Ziphh wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 03 2013 12:18 Hopeless1der wrote:
On January 03 2013 07:43 Meapak_Ziphh wrote:
This just in, palmar most likely town.

More in a few hours when I get home.

What happened to this?

nothing, I'm willing to kill tunkeg, that's more. Palmar still town although supersoft is right that I maybe shouldn't have pointed it out. In my defense, if I was scum I could have just told my teammates and let the thread fight it out.


answer me on palmar, marv:

On January 04 2013 05:38 Meapak_Ziphh wrote:
Hey marv, I read your filter and your posting is literally as content free as mine has been thus far. I'm not even joking, if you don't believe me reread his filter. Marv I want at least one mediocre post from you where you actually explain why Palmar needs to die.

Mediocre marv, I'm not asking for a lot here.

I have to go pick my sister up, I'll be back in like 45 minutes.


On January 04 2013 06:35 Meapak_Ziphh wrote:
So many massive epeenz over compensating lol.

Marv answer me.


On January 04 2013 08:19 Meapak_Ziphh wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 04 2013 07:45 marvellosity wrote:
On January 04 2013 07:44 iamperfection wrote:
good

anyways i disagree ve i think has toad has been overall active and has commented on a lot of the comings and goings of the thread. He is not a good lynch


toad has commented on almost nothing of value.

Look at the pot and the kettle. Pull your head out and answer my earlier question. And no, "read my filter" is not a suitable response.


So he calls Palmar town straight off the bat, when Palmar had already been trolling, ya. The best bit is that he is suspicious of me first and foremost, trying to prod me or something. So Palmar town, marvellosity bad, nice.

Anyways, a few votes start going on Palmar, led by me, Toad, etc. Palmar is playing exactly the same as before, and yet...

Palmar is scum! :o

On January 04 2013 10:30 Meapak_Ziphh wrote:
hey guys wanna just kill palmar for claiming scum?

I mean I was fine with him up until this page but since he's so adamant that he's scum then let's just help him to exit the game at the earliest opportunity.


On January 04 2013 10:51 Meapak_Ziphh wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 04 2013 10:38 supersoft wrote:
On January 04 2013 10:30 Meapak_Ziphh wrote:
hey guys wanna just kill palmar for claiming scum?

I mean I was fine with him up until this page but since he's so adamant that he's scum then let's just help him to exit the game at the earliest opportunity.


This second sentence doesnt say you now think he's scum right?

Yeah. It looks like he's trying a "hide in plain sight" sort of thing. I thought in the beginning he was doing his usual trolling to get discussion started (there's actually a game where he describes exactly what he does as town I just forget which one). Basically it goes something along the lines of propose something so stupid it's just begging for people to jump on it for free town cred and then tear the ones apart who use that as a crutch to look protown. That's what I assumed he was trying here but now I'm thinking he's just acting as scummy as possible on the assumption that everyone will just assume he's trolling and ignore him. There is zero reason for town to do that so occam's razor says if Palmar says he's scum, he's scum.


On January 04 2013 19:12 Meapak_Ziphh wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 04 2013 19:08 wherebugsgo wrote:
On January 04 2013 18:28 Palmar wrote:
On January 04 2013 17:38 wherebugsgo wrote:
On January 04 2013 17:37 Palmar wrote:
I don't really think Cheesecake is the most productive lynch today. It is a good lynch but I have other ideas. I will elaborate later.


logs, bitch


No, a great town player once told me that keeping my reads private is apparently good town play, so let's do that.


cool, you're dying then.

Listen guys, Palmar has no logs. He's scum.

I'm down with this happening.

A huge focus in the beginning should be about demonstrating your innocence and Palmar is flat out not doing that, if he wants to trollishly call himself scum I'd have let him get away with that assuming that he was planning on making something useful out of the discussion he started with his "lynch wbg" nonsense. Since he's declined to do that and instead continued to troll I'm ready to get rid of him.


Now the thing is, having thought I was scummy, that I had a contentless filter, that I was useless, basically I was just a complete baddie, now he fully agrees with me on Palmar, making this post AFTER I make my quite good post about my IRC chats with Palmar. So he's gone from marv scumread Palmar townread to marv townread Palmar scumread even though nothing much has happened. Well, what has happened is that at that point the sentiment of the thread was AGAINST Palmar, before the release of his logs and spreadsheet. Again I would add that MZ went from adamant Palmar was town early, to adamant he's scum, when Palmar's play had not changed. Just this totally random complete 180.

Palmar is town, marv is scum! :OOO

On January 04 2013 21:03 Meapak_Ziphh wrote:
Part of me thinks this is you trying to make sure you don't get lynched as scum now that your bluff has been called but a bigger part of me says there's bigger fish to fry and you actually are town like I originally thought.

Oh and fyi you have called me bad/terrible/awful/stupid/some other adjective that implies idiocy in almost every game I've played with you. idk what game it was from but my personal favorite was "oh that's MZ, I wondered who was trying to break the world record for retard."


lol holy shit, the final flip flop! Now the sentiment of the thread, remember, has gone pro-Palmar. The spreadsheet, the logs, the case on marv etc. So now obviously Meapak wants to kill marv after all.

Meapak has consistently flipflopped on his opinion of Palmar and I, basically going with teh sentiment of the thread. He never has his own opinions, he's only sheeping town mentality.




Bonus - Tunkeg!

Kinda amidst all of this, there's a side-story on Tunkeg. Anyways, it starts:

On January 03 2013 12:16 Meapak_Ziphh wrote:
Let's kill tunkeg.


So Tunkeg is scum, right? Where's the case?

On January 04 2013 09:56 Meapak_Ziphh wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 04 2013 09:23 debears wrote:
On January 04 2013 09:07 marvellosity wrote:
debears, I am verily looking forward to this post on Tunkeg.


honestly I'm not.....Already have to read this damn thread :/

It's not a very hard case which is the only thing that stopped me from writing it. It felt too easy.


It's not a very hard case which is the only thing that stopped him writing it, it's too easy. What does that mean? See, to most of the players in the game, it meant that people thought Tunkeg was just being his usual belligerent townie self, and they didn't think he was scum. But Meapak called him scum. Which means Meapak didn't think this. So why exactly didn't he make his case? What has too easy got to do with it if he thinks he's scum?

On January 04 2013 17:43 Meapak_Ziphh wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 04 2013 17:35 yamato77 wrote:
Tunkeg is playing anti town but his actual alignment is yet to be revealed. Apparently he's a dumbass all the time.

CC I can almost get behind but I'm not sure how much seriously I take the arguments for his lynch. He's been useless, sure, but he hasn't exactly done so in a scummy way.

wait so playing anti town doesn't reveal his alignment or at least in anyway give you reason to question him?

Damn that's a new one, I've only been gone for like 6 months and the meta has changed that much?


Here Meapak is pressuring yamato for not putting pressure on Tunkeg for playing anti-town. But what has Meapak done? He called Tunkeg scum and refused to make a case on him. Thereby not putting any pressure on Tunkeg himself. Why didn't he? Why didn't he pressure someone he called scum, why is he telling someone else off for not doing so?

I present you with Meapak_Ziph.
On January 05 2013 07:58 VisceraEyes wrote:
Yes, I'm down with killing Meapak. 100%

<Elem> >toad in charge of judging lewdness <Elem> how bad can it be <Elem> also wew, that is actually p lewd.
Toadesstern
Profile Blog Joined October 2008
Germany16350 Posts
January 04 2013 23:10 GMT
#2050
On January 05 2013 08:09 marvellosity wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 05 2013 08:09 Chezinu wrote:
Tubes filled with explosives are fun, especially when they are on scum.


oh my god I get this one! vig tube!

I actually think he wants to tell us he's a madhatter who places his bomb on tube :p
<Elem> >toad in charge of judging lewdness <Elem> how bad can it be <Elem> also wew, that is actually p lewd.
Toadesstern
Profile Blog Joined October 2008
Germany16350 Posts
January 04 2013 23:15 GMT
#2059
On January 05 2013 08:14 Vivax wrote:
VE, stop telling lies. You've been mindlessly joining other votes all game long, so don't come with "I wouldn't just lynch anyone", you'd lynch your mother to hump a leg in this game.


I like this guy.
<Elem> >toad in charge of judging lewdness <Elem> how bad can it be <Elem> also wew, that is actually p lewd.
Toadesstern
Profile Blog Joined October 2008
Germany16350 Posts
January 04 2013 23:21 GMT
#2066
On January 05 2013 08:19 VisceraEyes wrote:
I'm sorry Bugs, was there some sort of point to all that?

Marv's explanation appeased me. Palmar's logs appeased me. I wasn't willing to lynch them anymore.

:OOOOOOOOOOOO

yeah and you were willing to lynch me becaue foolish voted me although it had nothing to do with foolish's vote
<Elem> >toad in charge of judging lewdness <Elem> how bad can it be <Elem> also wew, that is actually p lewd.
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