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Palmar
Profile Blog Joined July 2010
Iceland22633 Posts
January 04 2013 13:10 GMT
#1429
yeah but it seems unfair to you guys, I could for example wait until some obscure time and get someone to claim then delete it or something and since you can't be watching 24/7 your team will miss a confirmed townie roleclaim or something.
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Palmar
Profile Blog Joined July 2010
Iceland22633 Posts
January 04 2013 14:04 GMT
#1445
fyi supersoft is not scum.

He's being very intelligent and thorough so he cannot be scum.
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Palmar
Profile Blog Joined July 2010
Iceland22633 Posts
January 04 2013 14:46 GMT
#1474
On January 04 2013 23:30 froggynoddy wrote:
Oh and I refuse to see the logs as having any bearing on alignent on either iamp or Palmar.

The fact that:

1. Iamp conveniently didnt have the logs with him
2. Hours later Palmar refused to show the logs claiming (perhaps rightfully) that this this would not help town... I think this is true Day 1 as his reads, though convincing, are still based on just one days activity and noobs like me will feel strongly motivated to work on his assumptions rather than think for themselves.
3. Palmar finally gives up, even though he wasnt hugely at risk of a lynch.

This, truly, is some more narrative construction and I am not saying that the logs were necessarily faked, just that I would rather base any judgment on his thread activity which honestly... baffles me so I cant really say one way or another.


I just posted the logs to become confirmedtown and to piss off marv.
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Palmar
Profile Blog Joined July 2010
Iceland22633 Posts
January 04 2013 14:47 GMT
#1479
it's a decent point Jackal but lynching bugs is so last game. lynching marv is where it's at.
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Palmar
Profile Blog Joined July 2010
Iceland22633 Posts
January 04 2013 14:53 GMT
#1486
Also I'm pretty much an Emperor Boss. So marv can't pull some shit-up-the-thread tactic on me.
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Palmar
Profile Blog Joined July 2010
Iceland22633 Posts
January 04 2013 15:16 GMT
#1527
Why should I believe you're town marv? Hell, even your list of reads were basically based on what I had written in the spreadsheet with some minor changes, including agreeing with me on Adam and pushing him as a read.

You should know that I hated the way Adam was playing immediately after the post that he wrote and you agreed with (about clarity and someone). We drew completely different conclusions after that post, I think I even called him scum in the thread, but you for some reason liked what he had to say.

Then you 180 when he doesn't post, which is true of a lot of other people in the thread. The only reason I'm bothering questioning you is iamp is telling me I'm dumb.

But please, none of your thoughts seem original, none of your content prior to me pushing your lynch was worth a damn. You seemed perfectly fine doing nothing but ride-along getting me lynched on day 1 with nothing else to be analysed from that day (well you threw out a couple of names for no reason).

I just don't see anything that makes you look like townie.
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Palmar
Profile Blog Joined July 2010
Iceland22633 Posts
January 04 2013 15:18 GMT
#1529
well you're telling me I'm wrong about marv.
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Palmar
Profile Blog Joined July 2010
Iceland22633 Posts
January 04 2013 15:28 GMT
#1532
On January 05 2013 00:22 marvellosity wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 05 2013 00:16 Palmar wrote:
Why should I believe you're town marv? Hell, even your list of reads were basically based on what I had written in the spreadsheet with some minor changes, including agreeing with me on Adam and pushing him as a read.

You should know that I hated the way Adam was playing immediately after the post that he wrote and you agreed with (about clarity and someone). We drew completely different conclusions after that post, I think I even called him scum in the thread, but you for some reason liked what he had to say.

Then you 180 when he doesn't post, which is true of a lot of other people in the thread. The only reason I'm bothering questioning you is iamp is telling me I'm dumb.

But please, none of your thoughts seem original, none of your content prior to me pushing your lynch was worth a damn. You seemed perfectly fine doing nothing but ride-along getting me lynched on day 1 with nothing else to be analysed from that day (well you threw out a couple of names for no reason).

I just don't see anything that makes you look like townie.


I agreed with his suspicions of Clarity, and I made it perfectly clear exactly why I agreed with his suspicions of Clarity. The fact he has pushed nothing since and not followed up on it is more indicative than the original post.

I seriously loathe that you haven't properly researched my meta when making this case. People have been suspicious of me many times for lack of content or bad Day 1s, LIII, Dwarf Fortess, Can't Believe, Paranoia, and probably some others I'm not forgetting.

Why do I need to push original content from your reads sheet if I agree with them? I told you the differences in what I thought on the sheet, why would I say anything else? I don't get it.

It should have been fairly apparent I'm quite suspicious of VE because I keep niggling at him about how he's voted.
It should have been fairly apparent I'm quite suspicious of BC given how I've tried to canvas opinion on him and given my own that he just seems to be summarising/not lurking.

I pushed you for precisely the reasons I gave in my post, about our discussion about how good your Day 1s were compared to your other days. It's annoying how you can't grasp how that conversation so recently into your play this game might have a significant effect on me.


I don't actually use meta. I think you're scum because of your gradual turn towards thinking I'm scum after repeatedly pointing out I can troll as either alignment. I think you're scum because in the process you saw no reason to ever seriously voice or out any special concerns or cases against anyone, except of course you agreed once with a guy I thought was scum writing a case on a guy I tentatively thought was town.

I think you're scum because once you were called out for it your cases are weak, not very well thought out and contain very few specifics from this game, most of your observations have been generic (I point to your evaluation of froggynoddy for example). I think you're scum because you seem generally disinterested in who gets lynched and you didn't actively try to get people to agree with you.

I don't care about your meta. I included that in the case because I remembered that you played differently in rockband, and a lot of people like that, and it's generally hard to whip town into shape to lynch.

Since you remember our IRC conversations, you should also remember that I said I usually just write my cases to convince town, more than to prove people are scum. But hey, selective memory is good right?
Computer says mafia
Palmar
Profile Blog Joined July 2010
Iceland22633 Posts
January 04 2013 15:36 GMT
#1536
meh

[image loading]

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Palmar
Profile Blog Joined July 2010
Iceland22633 Posts
January 04 2013 15:37 GMT
#1540
Here marv

*hands marv a piece of paper*

You can call me bad for 1 day in any game you'd like if you flip town.
Computer says mafia
Palmar
Profile Blog Joined July 2010
Iceland22633 Posts
January 04 2013 15:42 GMT
#1548
On January 05 2013 00:41 thrawn2112 wrote:
well i don't want to lynch either you or palmar


Why not? Lynching marv is a pretty good experiment.

I mean, it's not the traditional hobby-lynch (bugs or VE or something) but it's a fun alternative.
Computer says mafia
Palmar
Profile Blog Joined July 2010
Iceland22633 Posts
January 04 2013 15:51 GMT
#1553
actually they're not, but marv is still a better lynch.
Computer says mafia
Palmar
Profile Blog Joined July 2010
Iceland22633 Posts
January 04 2013 16:04 GMT
#1570
On January 05 2013 01:01 Lazermonkey wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 05 2013 00:59 thrawn2112 wrote:
On January 05 2013 00:57 Lazermonkey wrote:
Agree with kush/thrawn on the CC. He can just as well be a lazy townie.


are you not suspicious of me for this "bad case" I made against you?
Not really. I think generally townies are more capable of pushing retarded cases than scum is. You can be scum tho. But I don't really care, it's not like town and scum MUST disagree on everything. I agree with you on this point.


Best post
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Palmar
Profile Blog Joined July 2010
Iceland22633 Posts
January 04 2013 16:06 GMT
#1571
On January 04 2013 10:31 marvellosity wrote:
I'm still pretty happy with my vote on Palmar, for reasons already given. There's nothing in what Palmar has done so far that suggests in the slightest that he gives a shit for town, and he should be one of the town leaders.


I know another guy who should be a town leader ^^
Computer says mafia
Palmar
Profile Blog Joined July 2010
Iceland22633 Posts
January 04 2013 16:11 GMT
#1574
On January 05 2013 01:09 Vivax wrote:
Palmar, why are you just so different from the last two games you were in?


Because I felt like being different?
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Palmar
Profile Blog Joined July 2010
Iceland22633 Posts
January 04 2013 16:11 GMT
#1575
On January 05 2013 01:10 kushm4sta wrote:
marv is palmar scum? you have never said you thought he was scum.
You want to lynch him for annoying you?? esp with this mason claim that does not seem reasonable.

read the thread goddamnit.
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Palmar
Profile Blog Joined July 2010
Iceland22633 Posts
January 04 2013 16:14 GMT
#1578
Lazer is like supertown.
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Palmar
Profile Blog Joined July 2010
Iceland22633 Posts
January 04 2013 16:23 GMT
#1583
On January 05 2013 01:16 marvellosity wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 05 2013 01:06 Palmar wrote:
On January 04 2013 10:31 marvellosity wrote:
I'm still pretty happy with my vote on Palmar, for reasons already given. There's nothing in what Palmar has done so far that suggests in the slightest that he gives a shit for town, and he should be one of the town leaders.


I know another guy who should be a town leader ^^


I was, I was lynching you.


But you didn't have to vote for me
Then retract like it never happened and that it meant nothing
And I don't even need your vote
But you treat me like a newbie and that feels so rough
No you didn't have to stoop so low
Call me out on something that never really happened
I guess that I don't need that though
Now you're just somebody that I used to know
Computer says mafia
Palmar
Profile Blog Joined July 2010
Iceland22633 Posts
January 04 2013 16:29 GMT
#1587
On January 05 2013 01:28 iamperfection wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 05 2013 01:27 Lazermonkey wrote:
Can Vivax, thrawn and hopeless explain to me why contradicting myself on one point(because it is true about the rest of the case) makes me scum(my)?

Hint: it doesn't.

i like this guy

It's because he has the same alignment as you.
Computer says mafia
Palmar
Profile Blog Joined July 2010
Iceland22633 Posts
January 04 2013 16:46 GMT
#1590
On January 05 2013 01:45 froggynoddy wrote:
I still don't feel confident with a Marv lynch. As no one cares about BC Ill vote for Toad.



I would probably lynch BC, but I feel good about this marv lynch.

Indeed I was probably going to suggest lynching him until I realized just how little marv had achieved in the thread.
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