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On January 04 2013 12:36 marvellosity wrote:Show nested quote +On January 04 2013 12:33 debears wrote:On January 04 2013 12:31 marvellosity wrote:
The case didn't really demonstrate at all any differences in his town/scum games. Tunkeg earlier in the game gave a list of reads with explanations very much like the one that debears quotes from Hero mini. Apart from that there's nothing. do you deny that he is fucking scummy this game at the very least? In Hero he didn't give reads until he was about to get lynched basically. He was easy lynchbait the whole game. Of course his play is scummy here, just like it was in Hero. He might even be scum, I dunno yet. Nothing in your case made me go "a-ha! nice!"
His activity all hero was 3 pages. His day 1 was 1 page exactly. He has 3 pages halfway into d1 and nothing to show for it
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And Marv, here is his first post of reads
On January 04 2013 00:17 Tunkeg wrote:So I am up to date on the thread. I think there are some obvious townies in the mix, and some players who I am more concerned about. I am still concerned about Palmar. His policy-tunneling of WBG is getting old. He look abit to careless for being town-Palmar. He have also seemed to be avoiding confrontation with marv (at least until Palmar now called marv a bitch, which is what I would expect from a town Palmar), when marv basicly is soft pushing Palmar for scum. Lately he is starting to push people around abit, and smacking them about, this I like. I would still say I get more scumvibes from Palmar than townvibes. Enough to want to lynch him day 1? HEEELLLZ NO! If Palmar is town, him being somewhat suspicious might save him night one. He will also then start racking up scumreads and push scummies, if this doesn't happend he is scum. debears I am more concerned about. Even though this is meta, and meta basicly from one game, the change of style is very apparent. In Hero Mini Mafia he was active and pushing town objectives from the get go. He, together with Palmar, got Adam lynched. This resulted in him getting NK night 1. This game all he have done is talk about random lynching and discussing set-up. Besides that he have lurked. I don't get this sudden change in play, from something that obviously worked great and was very pro-town in Hero, to something that is completely useless now. I am leaning scum on him for this. Clarity_nl is someone I am also concerned about. This is also meta, and a one game meta. In Hero it was clear as day he was town, he played very pro-town (Even though not allways being right). This game he isn't putting in the same effort. He want to lynch me, then no, then he puts out a read on Palmar, that gets corrected, and he admits it was wrong. Then he goes for a policy lynch on Jackal. It is not the pro-town play he did in Hero. He is suspicious. tube gives me the heebie-jeebies with his: Show nested quote +On January 03 2013 09:09 tube wrote:
hi guys gl
im posting like this again this game fuck you all I don't see any town motivation for doing it. He needs to get on and start playing so that we can read him. Foolishness is MIA, and should get in to thread ASAP.
How is that any kind of fucking analysis?
This guy wants to policy lynch
This guy isn't active
This guy is changing his mind often
this guy made one statement that scares me
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On January 04 2013 12:40 wherebugsgo wrote:read it once, yeah. Show nested quote +On January 04 2013 12:35 debears wrote:On January 04 2013 12:32 wherebugsgo wrote:
man this is why people hate meta cases.
There might be differences in Tunkeg's play in this game and the past game, but debears you haven't qualified why the differences make him scum. I mean, cool, he's playing differently. Given that last time everyone chewed him out for being a massive dick, I don't find that alignment-indicative.
Last game I played with Tunkeg I (wrongly) thought Tunkeg was being far more disruptive than in his previous games and he wasn't putting forth reads because he was scum. I was just wrong, and to be honest I don't think anyone really knows why Tunkeg decided to play in that manner (perhaps it was because he was tired of dumb people, who knows-it's something he said earlier in this game). If you're going to meta someone you need to show HOW the differences (or similarities) are alignment-indicative. Bugs, if someone says, "hey he's looking scummy, but it's the same as his own games", you have to show that it's different from their town games. I have done that, according to you. His play on his own is scummy. It's not like his town games. I'm not following you. You might've shown a difference but it's not the difference that matters. You need to be able to explain the difference. Yeah, finding a difference is cool, but that's not the point of metaing someone. Their play could be different for several different reasons. I find it plausible that, if his play this game is different (I haven't checked thoroughly enough to even say that it is) then there is a good chance it is because, in his last game, it didn't go very well for him.
Alright. Let me try putting it this way.
In hero, he argued with others and stated "hey you're likely scum"
He has argued with multiple people this game, not called them scum, and then named scummy 3 people who he didn't engage with
How is that not different in a scum oriented way?>
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On January 04 2013 12:41 Clarity_nl wrote:
debears, how is his post in hero that you mentioned any analysis? Seriously, scum marv jumped on it immediately for being so useless
which one lol. I put 4 in there
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On January 04 2013 14:18 Coagulation wrote:
##vote Jackal58
I'm confuzzed
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On January 04 2013 15:04 Chezinu wrote:Show nested quote +On January 04 2013 15:00 yamato77 wrote:
Debears you've improved your fake scumhunt techniques but you're still not convincing. Look into my eyes... I sense great anger.... Is it frustration I see? Tension comes from deep within... Relax you mind, let us take control... Debears is with you... you will obey the Brown... Say he is your brother... speak the words...
Yes Yamato. Join us. Become a Brother of the Brown
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On January 04 2013 17:11 yamato77 wrote:
Debears give me a read I can believe you actually have.
Well, I am also down to lynch CC.
Iamp and Palmar are trustworthy thus far
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I think we should all just ignore Yamato for a while. Til he gets his head straight and comes up with something good :D
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##votr marv
Follow palmar the wise
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WE AREN'T MASONS DAMNIT. ALREADY SAID IT.
I just like Chez. I decided to join his roleplay society in the meanwhile until the game settles down
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On January 05 2013 15:07 supersoft wrote:
english wikipedia found this, though
Mandy (Billy and Mandy), a character from The Grim Adventures of Billy and Mandy, an animated television series
Mandy (24 character), professional assassin from the American television series 24
Mandy (comic), a DC Thomson girls' comic published from 1967 until 1991
Mandy Salter, a fictional character from the BBC soap opera EastEnders
Lol Billy and Mandy. I actually thought of her boomerang shaped blonde hair
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On January 05 2013 22:06 marvellosity wrote:
this game has led to a certain unavoidable snippiness level, by dint of sheer stupidity and bigheadedness (Palmar) and sheeping of said stupidity and bigheadedness (lots of town)
Marv how do you know it's town sheeping palmar and not scum>?
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Guys, with the thread as shitty as it is right now, I would like to propose a plan:
Everyone, shut up, and do voting analysis with the info on the marv and BC flips. Let's make night all about voting analysis, and get on track
BloodyC0bbler (13)
marvellosity
Clarity_nl
Hopeless1der
HiroPro
froggynoddy
[UoN]Sentinel
iamperfection
thrawn2112
VisceraEyes
Djodref
Promethelax
Keirathi
Lazermonkey
Marvellosity (12)
Palmar
supersoft
kushm4sta
Toadesstern
debears
Mr. Cheesecake
tube
Meapak_Ziphh
Chezinu
yamato77
Foolishness
grush57
hopeless1der (1)
wherebugsgo
Palmar (1)
BloodyC0bbler
tube(1)
Vivax
wherebugsgo (1)
Jackal58
Haven't yet voted (1)
Eywa-
Day ends in 15 minutes.
What do we know about the day 1 lynch candidates? They were both town.
It is way more likely scum didn't give a fuck where their votes were. We need to look for people who didn't really give a shit where their votes were, especially concerning BC and marv
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Ok. Quick question.
I noticed a certain two people suddenly picked up their activity at the exact moment that Marv ragequit. They started discussing with each other. I found it extremely odd that they would both happen to pop into the thread, after having little activity for so long, and suddenly take over the thread.
Considering marv's thread presence and ability as town, how likely would it be for those two to be scum?
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On January 06 2013 03:56 Keirathi wrote:Show nested quote +On January 06 2013 03:51 debears wrote:
Ok. Quick question.
I noticed a certain two people suddenly picked up their activity at the exact moment that Marv ragequit. They started discussing with each other. I found it extremely odd that they would both happen to pop into the thread, after having little activity for so long, and suddenly take over the thread.
Considering marv's thread presence and ability as town, how likely would it be for those two to be scum? Maybe you could say exactly which two you are talking about. A lot of people started getting active around that time, because *GASP*, its wakey-wakey time.
Ah good call. It appears one normally posts around that time. The other had not posted within 5 hours, but it would be a reasonable time to post based on location.
However, I do see activity differences from both of these people in their town metas. Voting analysis will commence
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Iamp
Trolling =/= not forming reads. You are being silly.
Also, I would say I have had an easy time interpreting what Chez is saying
CC, based on d1, is a good candidate
Foolish - idk. Does he normally go lurky useless as scum?
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On January 06 2013 04:09 Clarity_nl wrote:Show nested quote +On January 06 2013 04:07 debears wrote:On January 06 2013 03:56 Keirathi wrote:On January 06 2013 03:51 debears wrote:
Ok. Quick question.
I noticed a certain two people suddenly picked up their activity at the exact moment that Marv ragequit. They started discussing with each other. I found it extremely odd that they would both happen to pop into the thread, after having little activity for so long, and suddenly take over the thread.
Considering marv's thread presence and ability as town, how likely would it be for those two to be scum? Maybe you could say exactly which two you are talking about. A lot of people started getting active around that time, because *GASP*, its wakey-wakey time. Ah good call. It appears one normally posts around that time. The other had not posted within 5 hours, but it would be a reasonable time to post based on location. However, I do see activity differences from both of these people in their town metas. Voting analysis will commence Stupid question: Why are you avoiding naming these mysterious people.
In short, Idk who is scum at this point. I'm not trusting anyone with names, for fear of them being scum and misleading me. If I withold names, then scum can not know if I'm talking of their teammates
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